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P: 7/9/2009 9:43:19 AM
PortlandKelly Rough Rock Total Posts: 55 Last Post: 10/14/2009 Member Since: 10/5/2008	I am so excited!! I have two dynamite GOG stones traveling all the way from New York to Oregon for me to view this Friday! They are being sent to my local Pricescope appraiser here in Portland. Alas, my future husband may not be able to meet me at the appraisers office to help me choose between the two. I pray that one of them "speaks" to me so my decision is made a little easier. Any words of wisdom to help me with this decision? My guess is that they are both beauties and it will all come down to color? Diamond 1: 1.60 J VS2 http://www.goodoldgold.com/diamond/5839 HCA 1.1 TIC EEEV AGS Light Perf: Ideal Optical Symmetry: Superior Polish/Symmetry: Excellent Fluorescence: Faint Table Percentage: 56.68% Depth Percentage: 61.89% Crown: 34.44° Pavilion: 40.79°
Posted: 7/9/2009 9:43:19 AM

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P: 7/9/2009 9:44:54 AM
PortlandKelly Rough Rock Total Posts: 55 Last Post: 10/14/2009 Member Since: 10/5/2008	Diamond 2: 1.52ct H SI1 http://www.goodoldgold.com/diamond/6053 HCA 1.1 TIC EEEV AGS Light Perf: Ideal Optical Symmetry: Superior Polish/Symmetry: Excellent Fluorescence: None Table Percentage: 55.25% Depth Percentage: 62.14% Crown: 34.61° Pavilion: 40.75°
Posted: 7/9/2009 9:44:54 AM

P: 7/9/2009 9:51:56 AM
tyty333 Ideal Rock Total Posts: 2,386 Last Post: 11/22/2009 Member Since: 12/17/2008	Wow...they'd make a great pair of studs! Good luck in deciding and let us know! ~~~Thanks to PS, my wants far exceed my budget!~~~
Posted: 7/9/2009 9:51:56 AM

P: 7/9/2009 9:52:41 AM
Stone-cold11 Ideal Rock Total Posts: 6,867 Last Post: 11/22/2009 Member Since: 9/9/2008	All I can say is have fun. :)
Posted: 7/9/2009 9:52:41 AM

P: 7/9/2009 9:58:04 AM
jet2ks Ideal Rock Total Posts: 1,576 Last Post: 11/20/2009 Member Since: 2/4/2009	My only advice is have the appraiser show you both without telling you which is which. I'm not sure you'll be able to tell much difference, as they have very similar personalities. Stunning, glowing, beautiful ones!!! Any of my opinions are worth exactly what you paid for them. "The U. S. Constitution doesn't guarantee happiness, only the pursuit of it. You have to catch up with it yourself." Benjamin Franklin
Posted: 7/9/2009 9:58:04 AM

P: 7/9/2009 9:58:43 AM
Ellen Ideal Rock Total Posts: 22,894 Last Post: 11/6/2009 Member Since: 1/13/2006	Well woohoo, you lucky duck! They are both gorgeous, I think one of them, if not both will speak to you. Color "may" be the deciding factor, but just remember, when looking for/at the color, hold each stone individually. You may see the difference side by side, but standing alone is how you should ultimately decide, because that's how it will sit on your hand. You may very well not be bothered, or be able to see any noticeable difference! Also make sure you look over the SI1 in natural daylight, to see if it's eyeclean to your liking. Take your time, comparing brilliance, scintillation and fire. And lastly, have fun! ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ "It is also important for the State to inculcate in its subjects an aversion to any 'conspiracy theory of history' for a search for 'conspiracies' means a search for motives and an attribution of responsibility for historical misdeeds." -Murray N. Rothbard, in The Anatomy of the State John Swinton [1829-1901] Chief Editorial Writer of the New York Times (Considered "the Dean of his Profession" by his peers), when asked to toast an 'Independent Press' in a gathering at the National Press Club, circa 1880 "There is no such thing in America as an independent press unless it is in the country towns. You know it, and I know it. There is not one of you who dare express an honest opinion. If you express it you know beforehand that it would never appear in print. I am paid... for keeping my honest opinions out of the paper I am connected with. Others of you are paid similar salaries for doing similar things.... The business of the New York journalist is to distort the truth, to lie outright, to pervert, to vilify, to fawn at the feet of Mammon, and sell his country and race for his daily bread, or for what is about the same thing, his salary. You know this, and I know it and what foolery to be toasting an 'independent press.' We are tools, and the vassals of rich men behind the scenes. We are jumping-jacks. They pull the strings and we dance. Our time, our talents, our lives, our possibilities, all are the property of other men. We are intellectual prostitutes."
Posted: 7/9/2009 9:58:43 AM

P: 7/9/2009 10:02:19 AM
Todd Gray Ideal Rock Total Posts: 591 Last Post: 11/20/2009 Member Since: 1/20/2009	Date: 7/9/2009 9:58:04 AM Author: jet2ks My only advice is have the appraiser show you both without telling you which is which. Excellent advice! Forget the paper and look at the two diamonds without knowing which one is which and let them talk to you! Your subject line totally made me click on this because I was like... "Jonathan is coming to the West Coast and he didn't tell me!?!?" man... I totally dropped in on him when I was on the East Coast and made him buy me lunch! __________________________ Todd Gray Nice Ice Ideal Cut Diamonds GemTrace Laser Inscribed Diamond Registry
Posted: 7/9/2009 10:02:19 AM

P: 7/15/2009 3:02:40 PM
PortlandKelly Rough Rock Total Posts: 55 Last Post: 10/14/2009 Member Since: 10/5/2008	Thought I should post a quick follow-up on these diamonds. A house came up on the market over the weekend that we are pursuing at the loss of a lovely diamond. While we are excited that a home finally came up on the market in our price range, we are disappointed that my dream ring is going to be put off for a while. I'm going to wear my Grandmother's ring for now, http://www.pricescope.com/idealbb/view.asp?topicID=108458 On to happier topics... the diamonds! They were SPECTACULAR!! I looked at a lot of HoF diamonds to get an idea of how an ideal cut diamond should perform. I think these diamonds knocked the socks off HoF. Both the J and H faced-up a beautiful white. Beautiful sparkle and fire. I could barely see the color on the J from the side, but I would have chosen the H just for 'mind clean' reasons. But honestly, if I were given the J and not told the color I would have been madly in love with it. So this exercise wasn't a total waste. I now know the buying a H SI1 Hearts & Arrows diamond sight-unseen from GOG will get me one super-hot momma of a diamond.
Posted: 7/15/2009 3:02:40 PM

P: 7/15/2009 3:15:25 PM
D&T Ideal Rock Total Posts: 7,441 Last Post: 11/22/2009 Member Since: 10/27/2008	definitely going to be a true beauty - they may have different personality even though the specs says otherwise - So excited to hear your thoughts as well once you've decided and why you chose the one you chose.
Posted: 7/15/2009 3:15:25 PM

P: 7/15/2009 3:47:30 PM
Ellen Ideal Rock Total Posts: 22,894 Last Post: 11/6/2009 Member Since: 1/13/2006	Well, gee. Yay to the house!! And, sorry the diamond has to get put on hold, but it's for such a good reason. I'm sure the house will bring you lots of joy, it just won't look as good on your finger. Thanks for getting back to us anyway, and yes, you now know what to expect! ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ "It is also important for the State to inculcate in its subjects an aversion to any 'conspiracy theory of history' for a search for 'conspiracies' means a search for motives and an attribution of responsibility for historical misdeeds." -Murray N. Rothbard, in The Anatomy of the State John Swinton [1829-1901] Chief Editorial Writer of the New York Times (Considered "the Dean of his Profession" by his peers), when asked to toast an 'Independent Press' in a gathering at the National Press Club, circa 1880 "There is no such thing in America as an independent press unless it is in the country towns. You know it, and I know it. There is not one of you who dare express an honest opinion. If you express it you know beforehand that it would never appear in print. I am paid... for keeping my honest opinions out of the paper I am connected with. Others of you are paid similar salaries for doing similar things.... The business of the New York journalist is to distort the truth, to lie outright, to pervert, to vilify, to fawn at the feet of Mammon, and sell his country and race for his daily bread, or for what is about the same thing, his salary. You know this, and I know it and what foolery to be toasting an 'independent press.' We are tools, and the vassals of rich men behind the scenes. We are jumping-jacks. They pull the strings and we dance. Our time, our talents, our lives, our possibilities, all are the property of other men. We are intellectual prostitutes."
Posted: 7/15/2009 3:47:30 PM

P: 7/15/2009 3:53:20 PM
tyty333 Ideal Rock Total Posts: 2,386 Last Post: 11/22/2009 Member Since: 12/17/2008	Very exciting to get a house! The ring/diamond will come in time! ~~~Thanks to PS, my wants far exceed my budget!~~~
Posted: 7/15/2009 3:53:20 PM

P: 7/15/2009 4:02:15 PM
Black Jade Cut Rock Total Posts: 497 Last Post: 9/22/2009 Member Since: 8/21/2008	Well, you get to move into a house! And I looked at your grandmother's set--how beautiful. I hope you get the diamond you want eventually, but think what good timing this was. Imagine how you'd feel if you'd just bought the diamond and the house came on the market THEN. Black Jade
Posted: 7/15/2009 4:02:15 PM

P: 7/15/2009 7:41:24 PM
risingsun Ideal Rock Total Posts: 3,414 Last Post: 11/23/2009 Member Since: 12/19/2006	Date: 7/15/2009 3:02:40 PM Author: PortlandKelly Thought I should post a quick follow-up on these diamonds. A house came up on the market over the weekend that we are pursuing at the loss of a lovely diamond. While we are excited that a home finally came up on the market in our price range, we are disappointed that my dream ring is going to be put off for a while. I'm going to wear my Grandmother's ring for now, http://www.pricescope.com/idealbb/view.asp?topicID=108458 On to happier topics... the diamonds! They were SPECTACULAR!! I looked at a lot of HoF diamonds to get an idea of how an ideal cut diamond should perform. I think these diamonds knocked the socks off HoF. Both the J and H faced-up a beautiful white. Beautiful sparkle and fire. I could barely see the color on the J from the side, but I would have chosen the H just for 'mind clean' reasons. But honestly, if I were given the J and not told the color I would have been madly in love with it. So this exercise wasn't a total waste. I now know the buying a H SI1 Hearts & Arrows diamond sight-unseen from GOG will get me one super-hot momma of a diamond. I am truly pleased that you love your new diamonds. I have a drop dead gorgeous HOF diamond. It knocked the socks off of any other diamond I have ever owned. I think it's a matter of preference. I am not trying to offend you, but I think that comment seemed a bit unnecessary. ~Marian ______________________________________ "It don't mean a thing if it ain't got that bling..."
Posted: 7/15/2009 7:41:24 PM

P: 7/16/2009 2:48:01 AM
arjunajane Ideal Rock Total Posts: 7,772 Last Post: 11/23/2009 Member Since: 1/18/2008	Date: 7/15/2009 7:41:24 PM Author: risingsun Date: 7/15/2009 3:02:40 PM Author: PortlandKelly Thought I should post a quick follow-up on these diamonds. A house came up on the market over the weekend that we are pursuing at the loss of a lovely diamond. While we are excited that a home finally came up on the market in our price range, we are disappointed that my dream ring is going to be put off for a while. I'm going to wear my Grandmother's ring for now, http://www.pricescope.com/idealbb/view.asp?topicID=108458 On to happier topics... the diamonds! They were SPECTACULAR!! I looked at a lot of HoF diamonds to get an idea of how an ideal cut diamond should perform. I think these diamonds knocked the socks off HoF. Both the J and H faced-up a beautiful white. Beautiful sparkle and fire. I could barely see the color on the J from the side, but I would have chosen the H just for 'mind clean' reasons. But honestly, if I were given the J and not told the color I would have been madly in love with it. So this exercise wasn't a total waste. I now know the buying a H SI1 Hearts & Arrows diamond sight-unseen from GOG will get me one super-hot momma of a diamond. I am truly pleased that you love your new diamonds. I have a drop dead gorgeous HOF diamond. It knocked the socks off of any other diamond I have ever owned. I think it's a matter of preference. I am not trying to offend you, but I think that comment seemed a bit unnecessary. Marian, really - this is getting a bit silly. You need to stop looking for every single comment about HOF on the board and taking them personally. What exactly about Portland's comment was unnecessary??!! She simply stated her impression of the two ideal cuts and her opinion on them, which she's entitled to in her own thread! fwiw, if you actually read her whole comment, the OP is not keeping the diamonds, as she is moving into a new house instead. Luckily, because otherwise your comment would've been simply rude! I don't mean to come across as admonishing, but I found your comment to be the unnecessary one, tbh. To the OP, my apologies for the t-jack, I'm sorry you don't get to keep the GOG diamond at this stage, but I'm sure your new home and grandma's set will bring you lots of joy regardless! ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ "And let today embrace the past with remembrance and the future with longing." Kahlil Gibran
Posted: 7/16/2009 2:48:01 AM

P: 7/16/2009 11:23:36 AM
risingsun Ideal Rock Total Posts: 3,414 Last Post: 11/23/2009 Member Since: 12/19/2006	AJ~I do not seek out threads about HOF. I read this one and thought the OP's remarks were unnecessary, as I said. You don't have to be dismissive of an entire brand of diamonds to enjoy your own. On PS, we frequently send people to look at HOF to see what a superideal diamond looks like and how it performs. I've grown a bit tired of people who go into HOF vendors, Tiffany's, etc. and come back to gloat about how much better their online purchases are than the diamonds they have seen at these stores. There are a good number of us who have purchased stones from these stores and it does begin to feel a bit discourteous. The fact that the OP chose not to keep the diamonds is irrelevant to this discussion. If I have done something to personally offend you, please let me know. If not, then let's not continue on with this. ETA: I have also purchased online diamonds, so I have nothing against this, either. ~Marian ______________________________________ "It don't mean a thing if it ain't got that bling..."
Posted: 7/16/2009 11:23:36 AM

P: 7/16/2009 12:17:09 PM
Todd Gray Ideal Rock Total Posts: 591 Last Post: 11/20/2009 Member Since: 1/20/2009	Congratulations on buying a house Portland Kelly! That is exciting and well worth waiting a little while to buy the diamond of your dreams! __________________________ Todd Gray Nice Ice Ideal Cut Diamonds GemTrace Laser Inscribed Diamond Registry
Posted: 7/16/2009 12:17:09 PM

P: 7/16/2009 12:42:02 PM
glitterata Ideal Rock Total Posts: 3,364 Last Post: 11/22/2009 Member Since: 4/17/2002	Date: 7/16/2009 11:23:36 AM Author: risingsun AJ~I do not seek out threads about HOF. I read this one and thought the OP's remarks were unnecessary, as I said. You don't have to be dismissive of an entire brand of diamonds to enjoy your own. On PS, we frequently send people to look at HOF to see what a superideal diamond looks like and how it performs. I've grown a bit tired of people who go into HOF vendors, Tiffany's, etc. and come back to gloat about how much better their online purchases are than the diamonds they have seen at these stores. There are a good number of us who have purchased stones from these stores and it does begin to feel a bit discourteous. The fact that the OP chose not to keep the diamonds is irrelevant to this discussion. If I have done something to personally offend you, please let me know. If not, then let's not continue on with this. ETA: I have also purchased online diamonds, so I have nothing against this, either. The point of this forum is for people to express their opinions. The OP preferred the diamonds from GOG to HOF diamonds she saw. She has a right to say so, and it's helpful for readers to know as they try to make decisions. You prefer HOF. Good. That's also helpful for readers to know. What isn't helpful is to tell people not to post their opinions just because you happen to own a particular brand of diamond.
Posted: 7/16/2009 12:42:02 PM

P: 7/16/2009 1:03:51 PM
risingsun Ideal Rock Total Posts: 3,414 Last Post: 11/23/2009 Member Since: 12/19/2006	I didn't tell the OP not to express her opinions. I was put off by one of her comments and I reflected it back to her. I think that was made pretty clear. As far as I am concerned this horse has been beaten to death If the OP wants to discuss it further, I will be happy to do so. ~Marian ______________________________________ "It don't mean a thing if it ain't got that bling..."
Posted: 7/16/2009 1:03:51 PM

P: 7/16/2009 1:23:52 PM
MC Ideal Rock Total Posts: 8,831 Last Post: 11/22/2009 Member Since: 2/8/2003	Congratulations on your house! Your grandmother's ring is so pretty!!! I'm glad you have a wonderful heirloom to wear.
Posted: 7/16/2009 1:23:52 PM

P: 7/16/2009 1:33:48 PM
D&T Ideal Rock Total Posts: 7,441 Last Post: 11/22/2009 Member Since: 10/27/2008	ooh, I must have posted the same time you did, and missed that part of moving into a house instead, so sorry you had to let those two beauties go, but congrats on the house!
Posted: 7/16/2009 1:33:48 PM

P: 7/16/2009 11:04:02 PM
arjunajane Ideal Rock Total Posts: 7,772 Last Post: 11/23/2009 Member Since: 1/18/2008	Date: 7/16/2009 11:23:36 AM Author: risingsun AJ~I do not seek out threads about HOF. I read this one and thought the OP's remarks were unnecessary, as I said. You don't have to be dismissive of an entire brand of diamonds to enjoy your own. On PS, we frequently send people to look at HOF to see what a superideal diamond looks like and how it performs. I've grown a bit tired of people who go into HOF vendors, Tiffany's, etc. and come back to gloat about how much better their online purchases are than the diamonds they have seen at these stores. There are a good number of us who have purchased stones from these stores and it does begin to feel a bit discourteous. The fact that the OP chose not to keep the diamonds is irrelevant to this discussion. If I have done something to personally offend you, please let me know. If not, then let's not continue on with this. ETA: I have also purchased online diamonds, so I have nothing against this, either. Exactly, you've grown tired of hearing people are more happy with their online purchases than forking out for a HOF. So, shouldn't it follow that it may be beneficial for you to avoid such threads, to avoid reading what you perceive as personally discourteous comments about HOF.? The fact that she chose not to keep it is very relevant - if she had, you would have essentially posted in a new diamond owner's thread saying "Well, mine's better than yours!". Yes, it was relevant which is why I commented on it. As far as I know, you don't have a personal investment in or work for HOF - I simply don't get the need to defend them at every single turn - folks are not talking about Your Diamond. You've done nothing to personally offend me, but your behaviour about this issue does baffle and sometimes irritate me, yes. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ "And let today embrace the past with remembrance and the future with longing." Kahlil Gibran
Posted: 7/16/2009 11:04:02 PM

P: 7/16/2009 11:45:00 PM
risingsun Ideal Rock Total Posts: 3,414 Last Post: 11/23/2009 Member Since: 12/19/2006	Date: 7/16/2009 11:04:02 PM Author: arjunajane Date: 7/16/2009 11:23:36 AM Author: risingsun AJ~I do not seek out threads about HOF. I read this one and thought the OP's remarks were unnecessary, as I said. You don't have to be dismissive of an entire brand of diamonds to enjoy your own. On PS, we frequently send people to look at HOF to see what a superideal diamond looks like and how it performs. I've grown a bit tired of people who go into HOF vendors, Tiffany's, etc. and come back to gloat about how much better their online purchases are than the diamonds they have seen at these stores. There are a good number of us who have purchased stones from these stores and it does begin to feel a bit discourteous. The fact that the OP chose not to keep the diamonds is irrelevant to this discussion. If I have done something to personally offend you, please let me know. If not, then let's not continue on with this. ETA: I have also purchased online diamonds, so I have nothing against this, either. Exactly, you've grown tired of hearing people are more happy with their online purchases than forking out for a HOF. So, shouldn't it follow that it may be beneficial for you to avoid such threads, to avoid reading what you perceive as personally discourteous comments about HOF.? The fact that she chose not to keep it is very relevant - if she had, you would have essentially posted in a new diamond owner's thread saying 'Well, mine's better than yours!'. Yes, it was relevant which is why I commented on it. As far as I know, you don't have a personal investment in or work for HOF - I simply don't get the need to defend them at every single turn - folks are not talking about Your Diamond. You've done nothing to personally offend me, but your behaviour about this issue does baffle and sometimes irritate me, yes. As I have said, I have purchased and been pleased with my online purchase of diamonds, including an ACA from WF. I have no personal relationship with HOF, nor am I a vendor. I have not grown tired of people posting their happiness with their online purchases and contribute to their threads, including your own. You have completely misconstrued my posts, my motivations and my character. I have attempted to respond to you with courtesy and you continue to berate me. You have made much about my comments without knowing me or what is of importance to me. I think it is truly time to end this discussion. Now I've become irritated with you, which I have tried hard to avoid. Let's stop giving each other a headache, already ~Marian ______________________________________ "It don't mean a thing if it ain't got that bling..."
Posted: 7/16/2009 11:45:00 PM

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