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advice on a bulgari engagement ring + solitaire

P: 7/6/2009 4:28:03 AM
rickdeckard Rough Rock Total Posts: 44 Last Post: 9/17/2009 Member Since: 7/6/2009	Hi guys and girls, this is the first time i post on this forum, but i have to say that it already helped a lot to read some posts here ! i bought a bulgari "torcello" engagement ring, and even if i know that the price i paid is because of the "brand" i would like you idea on the ring, and the stone... torcello platinium ring with a 0.35ct diamond round brilliant GIA cert october 2008 + bulgari cert. as for the stone : IF E cut : excellent symetry : excellent culet : none (as for the proportions, i don't have them all in mind, but last time i checked it did match perfectly what is most of the time stated as the perfect proportions !) fluorescence : medium blue details : minor details of polish are present i bought the ring for around 5000$, and i do not regret it cause i really fell in love with this very ring, it is the style my girl like, and since she does not like when the stones are too big, i think the 0.35 would fit perfectly, i am for sure not rich, but i wanted this ring to be special and of high quality, sicne it is for me the most important jewel i will ever give as a present ;-) i searched this website before register, because of the famous "fluorescence" question... and i read here and there, that the blue fluorescence i kind of appreciated by many people, but that fluorescence on itself, is better to be avoided when buying a high clarity stone, and on the other hand can enhance en less high clarity stone... here is a picture of the ring, so you can have an idea of the setting, i would really appreciate to have your idea on the ring (if you like it) and on the stone, (is it a good deal? if not by price, at least by quality) thanks a lot to eveyrone to have taken the time of reading this till the end, and sorry for my poor english !!!! ;-) there is another pic in attach, but i don't know if it will work... LOL Rick
Posted: 7/6/2009 4:28:03 AM

There are 37 replies to this message. There are 30 replies on this page.

P: 7/6/2009 11:13:13 AM
angeline Ideal Rock Total Posts: 1,942 Last Post: 11/14/2009 Member Since: 7/23/2006	Hi and welcome! I can't speak to the stone without any of the specs but I have to say that I LOVE that setting! I have drooled over it many times and considered trying to get a custom one like it. All I can say is, lucky girl to get the real thing It has such style and you won't see many of them around. I think you did very good. Oh and pleeease can we have a real life pic? I would love to see a real one!
Posted: 7/6/2009 11:13:13 AM

P: 7/6/2009 11:17:34 AM
Upgradable Ideal Rock Total Posts: 2,447 Last Post: 11/23/2009 Member Since: 8/15/2004	It looks beautiful, and I have no doubt the quality is about the highest you could get!! Congratulations!!
Posted: 7/6/2009 11:17:34 AM

P: 7/6/2009 11:19:47 AM
Stone-cold11 Ideal Rock Total Posts: 6,885 Last Post: 11/23/2009 Member Since: 9/9/2008	Fluor is a personal thing, at medium blue or lower you are unlikely to notice anything different in most viewing situation. Nothing to do with clarity, most would like to have blue fluor in lower color stones. What is the table, depth, crown and pavilion angles?
Posted: 7/6/2009 11:19:47 AM

P: 7/6/2009 11:26:08 AM
AprilBaby Ideal Rock Total Posts: 2,256 Last Post: 11/22/2009 Member Since: 7/17/2008	Beautiful setting! "Time is not what you think. Dying? Not the end of everything. We think it is. But what happens on earth is only the beginning." -Mitch Albom, The Five People You Meet in Heaven
Posted: 7/6/2009 11:26:08 AM

P: 7/6/2009 11:27:44 AM
gwendolyn Ideal Rock Total Posts: 6,544 Last Post: 11/12/2009 Member Since: 8/4/2007	I think it's a lovely ring, but if you love it, are happy with what you paid and think your lovely lady will love it, then why are you asking us? ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ UK Wedding: April ?th, 2010 US Reception: May 30th, 2010! Out of Context Theatre presents...ladypirate: "Gwen, you would make a terrible medieval catholic priest!" 'One day you will do things for me that you hate. That is what it means to be family.' -Jonathan Safran Foer, 'Everything Is Illuminated'
Posted: 7/6/2009 11:27:44 AM

P: 7/6/2009 12:07:39 PM
Fly Girl Ideal Rock Total Posts: 3,760 Last Post: 11/22/2009 Member Since: 1/9/2007	I have strong blue fluorescence in both my 0.63 E VS2 and my 0.70 F VS1 diamonds and unless you happen to be near a UV light you would never know that it is there. They are spectacularly beautiful diamonds, just as yours is. Beautiful ring, and please enjoy your purchase. Sure, there are less expensive 0.35 ct rings out there, but they wouldn't be a Bulgari. Love the Bulgari setting. Love the platinum. Congratulations on your choice. **** Life is a Journey, not a Destination. ****
Posted: 7/6/2009 12:07:39 PM

P: 7/6/2009 5:29:07 PM
iota Cut Rock Total Posts: 102 Last Post: 7/29/2009 Member Since: 6/21/2009	I can only imagine that you are asking because you are seeking compliments on a high-end purchase or you are just a teeny tiny bit unsure whether you've done the right thing with your $5000. From what the picture shows, this will undoubtedly be a beautiful ring and a beautiful setting. The diamond you will have in the center of your ring, however, will be somewhat smaller than what is showing in this picture though. Have you seen the ring you are purchasing live? This falls squarely in the category of unsolicited advice but using the PS cut search engine, I found a D color, IF, "ideal" hearts and arrows, 0.4 carat round brilliant, faint flores for $1,670 from James Allen: http://www.jamesallen.com/diamonds/D-IF-Ideal-Cut-Round-Diamond-1241630.asp?b=16&a=12&c=77&cid=131. Although you haven't presented us with all of the measurements, from what you've stated, this JA diamond has higher color, lower florescense and is slightly bigger. So, for the Bulgari name, setting and workmanship, you are in some sense paying more than $3,330. If you feel this is a fair price for the abovementioned items, then I absolutely believe you made a fantastic choice that your soon-to-be fiance would love... because again, the ring as a whole is beautiful. If not, I'm sure one of the very high quality ring setters on this forum can custom recreate what seems to be a fairly simple setting for far less than $3,300... you can also add your own personal touches to a custom setting too (secret inset stone, pave diamonds, etc.). I believe Leon Mege, which people often talk about on PS, does work for Harry Winston... so if you go with him, you can be positive that there's no compromise with respect to the quality or workmanship. For me, sure, it's a status symbol to say I have a Bulgari ring... but IMHO, you're also making quite a statement when you say, you had to ship your custom designed ering from New York from a high-end ring artiste like Leon. My two cents.
Posted: 7/6/2009 5:29:07 PM

P: 7/6/2009 5:39:14 PM
elle_chris Ideal Rock Total Posts: 1,967 Last Post: 11/23/2009 Member Since: 2/19/2004	I love the ring. Bvlagri workmanship is top tier and they make beautiful items. I've been considering the B Zero ring with Pave for years. You did good, she'll love it! iota- While Leon's work is gorgeous, i don't believe people outside of the PS community know who he is. elle
Posted: 7/6/2009 5:39:14 PM

P: 7/6/2009 8:08:45 PM
iota Cut Rock Total Posts: 102 Last Post: 7/29/2009 Member Since: 6/21/2009	Elle, I completely agree. I'm not sure how many non-PS'ers know about Leon, perhaps there are a lot, I don't know... I live on the other coast. His workmanship though is unquestionably fantastic, at least from what I've seen on his site and here. As with other items for those of "discriminating taste" - as long as the man is spoken of like he's a god with the indisputable quality and workmanship to match, it is perhaps the other party who is unfortunate enough to not be "in the know".
Posted: 7/6/2009 8:08:45 PM

P: 7/7/2009 4:02:10 AM
rickdeckard Rough Rock Total Posts: 44 Last Post: 9/17/2009 Member Since: 7/6/2009	Hi everyone, thanks a lot for your answers, it is really nice you show interrest in questions from a newb ie on that forum, it is really appreciated ! for Iota, well i'm absolutely not looking for compliments on that purchase, and i'm not unsure about the price i paid (i know it is way over the value of the ring and the stone) The only thing i was looking for is the wisdom of all of you regarding the quality of the stone, i mean, i did some researches, but i am not experienced at all, and like i said it is a one of kind expense for me and i just wanted to be sure that what i bought for that price was a high quality stone ! and even if i like it, just some subjective comments about the settings from other people can only show me if most people like or most people don't... since i did not bought it for myself, i'm not sure SHE will like it, even if i definately hope so ! to answer some other questions stated above, i have the ring in hands, and i will take pictures of it tonight and post them tommorow, cause indeed it is not to be seen in most bulgari stores (at least in europe where i live) and to me it looks different than what is shown on the pics, i will also take a pic of the gia report, so you will have all the specs i also think that making a ring on demand at a designer, is even more exclusive, since it will be really unique, and not part of a brand collection, it is just that i really fell for that one, and did not looked for any other after... Usually when i really like something i stop there, cause otherwise, if i keep looking, i got confused, don't know what i like or not or even what i'm really looking for ! the specs are : round brilliant the table is 56% the depth is 63% culet : none the girdle? is "medium" color E clarity IF cut excellent polish excellent symetry excellent fluorescence medium blue comments : minor polish details are present
Posted: 7/7/2009 4:02:10 AM

P: 7/7/2009 4:24:33 AM
Stone-cold11 Ideal Rock Total Posts: 6,885 Last Post: 11/23/2009 Member Since: 9/9/2008	Depth is too big to be a good stone. Which lab grade the stone? Anyway you can change the stone?
Posted: 7/7/2009 4:24:33 AM

P: 7/7/2009 4:29:30 AM
rickdeckard Rough Rock Total Posts: 44 Last Post: 9/17/2009 Member Since: 7/6/2009	Hi, the stone was graded by the GIA, ihave no idea if i can change it, since they showed me the ring + the cert prior to buying... but again, the specs are what i have in mind by having looked at the cert yesterday, even if i think it is right for those 2 values i might have msitaken, i will post the pic of the report tommorow so you will see everything that is mentionned and all proportions, thanks a lot for your help !
Posted: 7/7/2009 4:29:30 AM

P: 7/7/2009 2:51:13 PM
rickdeckard Rough Rock Total Posts: 44 Last Post: 9/17/2009 Member Since: 7/6/2009	Hello back, here are the pictures, sorry for the quality, my camera is more the kind for holiday pics than rings
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P: 7/7/2009 3:10:58 PM
DiamondFlame Ideal Rock Total Posts: 645 Last Post: 9/3/2009 Member Since: 2/7/2009	A Bulgari E IF diamond ring says 'CLASSY'. I'm pretty certain your GF wd be thrilled to receive it! I love the setting and I welcome fluorescence in diamonds. -Dmitri-
Posted: 7/7/2009 3:10:58 PM

P: 7/7/2009 3:12:38 PM
VRBeauty Ideal Rock Total Posts: 2,601 Last Post: 11/22/2009 Member Since: 4/3/2006	I'll let the resident experts weigh in on the cut of the diamond, but I wanted to say that I love the look and the overall proportions of the ring. That setting certainly highlights the diamond beautifully, and makes it look like a much larger stone. And an E-flawless solitaire is nothing to sneeze at either! ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ VRBeauty Thursday is the new Friday.
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P: 7/7/2009 3:13:16 PM
rickdeckard Rough Rock Total Posts: 44 Last Post: 9/17/2009 Member Since: 7/6/2009	a
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P: 7/7/2009 3:17:25 PM
rickdeckard Rough Rock Total Posts: 44 Last Post: 9/17/2009 Member Since: 7/6/2009	Just for info, even if talking about your future wedding is like talking about your children "nobody except you is really interrested" it is a very fun coincidence that i have planned a trip to venice prior from buying this ring, and now i'm seriously considering doing it on the torcello island !
Posted: 7/7/2009 3:17:25 PM

P: 7/7/2009 3:31:50 PM
Vancity Cut Rock Total Posts: 159 Last Post: 11/19/2009 Member Since: 3/26/2009	Many warm congratulations to you, Rick! Wow - a proposal in Venice (one of the most romantic spots on planet earth!), and a Bvlgari ring (which always holds a special cachet ) to go with it! Your lady will be beyond thrilled! Please please please come back soon with pictures ~Allyson p.s. I just thought of something...maybe you could also pick up one of the many lovely Bvlgari fragrances...hand her the perfume box first, and then pop out the gorgeous matching ring! Gratitude "A single grateful thought, raised to heaven, is the most perfect prayer." (Gotthold E. Lessing)
Posted: 7/7/2009 3:31:50 PM

P: 7/7/2009 3:53:42 PM
Stone-cold11 Ideal Rock Total Posts: 6,885 Last Post: 11/23/2009 Member Since: 9/9/2008	Dimensions are good. You did well. :) Congrats. :)
Posted: 7/7/2009 3:53:42 PM

P: 7/7/2009 4:53:38 PM
Lorelei Ideal Rock Total Posts: 34,228 Last Post: 11/23/2009 Member Since: 4/30/2005	Very unique ring, it looks great! Nothing is more sacred as the bond between horse and rider...no other creature can ever become so emotionally close to a human as a horse. When a horse dies, the memory lives on because an enormous part of his owner's heart, soul, very existence dies also...but that can never be laid to rest, it is not meant to be... - Stephanie M Thorn
Posted: 7/7/2009 4:53:38 PM

P: 7/8/2009 3:41:15 AM
rickdeckard Rough Rock Total Posts: 44 Last Post: 9/17/2009 Member Since: 7/6/2009	a BIG thank you to all of you for the advices and ideas, the fragrance idea is great ! i'm glad i bought a good stone !!!! will come back with pics, but since it is only planned for september... have a very nice day !
Posted: 7/8/2009 3:41:15 AM

P: 7/15/2009 10:34:52 AM
Ellen Ideal Rock Total Posts: 22,894 Last Post: 11/6/2009 Member Since: 1/13/2006	I missed this, just back from vaca then. Wow, what a diamond! And a beautifully unique setting to go with. I really like it. You did well! ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ "It is also important for the State to inculcate in its subjects an aversion to any 'conspiracy theory of history' for a search for 'conspiracies' means a search for motives and an attribution of responsibility for historical misdeeds." -Murray N. Rothbard, in The Anatomy of the State John Swinton [1829-1901] Chief Editorial Writer of the New York Times (Considered "the Dean of his Profession" by his peers), when asked to toast an 'Independent Press' in a gathering at the National Press Club, circa 1880 "There is no such thing in America as an independent press unless it is in the country towns. You know it, and I know it. There is not one of you who dare express an honest opinion. If you express it you know beforehand that it would never appear in print. I am paid... for keeping my honest opinions out of the paper I am connected with. Others of you are paid similar salaries for doing similar things.... The business of the New York journalist is to distort the truth, to lie outright, to pervert, to vilify, to fawn at the feet of Mammon, and sell his country and race for his daily bread, or for what is about the same thing, his salary. You know this, and I know it and what foolery to be toasting an 'independent press.' We are tools, and the vassals of rich men behind the scenes. We are jumping-jacks. They pull the strings and we dance. Our time, our talents, our lives, our possibilities, all are the property of other men. We are intellectual prostitutes."
Posted: 7/15/2009 10:34:52 AM

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