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P: 5/31/2009 9:46:50 PM
jewelerman Ideal Rock Total Posts: 2,193 Last Post: 11/23/2009 Member Since: 9/30/2007	Anyone...glitterata,Harriet, OldManCoyote,... interested in resurrecting the jewelry quiz question thread? Heres another question for those who want to play: What UN-USUAL style of jewelry did Cartier embrace and make popular in the 1930s?(Okay the style actually started in the late 1920s). will give hints if neeed!
Posted: 5/31/2009 9:46:50 PM

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P: 5/31/2009 10:52:16 PM
AGBF Ideal Rock Total Posts: 8,043 Last Post: 11/23/2009 Member Since: 1/26/2003	I'll play. I believe that the rule is that one may not look up the answer, correct? I am not an old jewelry aficionado like the others who usually play. I can only go by the clues of history. The 1920's were a very flush era, but in in 1929 the stock market crashed in the United States. The entire world was affected. By 1929-but not earlier in the late 1920's-the economy was sinking. In the 1930's it continued to sink. What jewelry item(s) might have been sold either during the very flush 1920's or the Depression era in France? At Cartier in the United States? Men were wearing button down shirts routinely, even working men. Did they wear cuff links? But how would that be unusual? Were people wearing hip flasks on some kind of jeweled clip so that they could carry contraband alcohol? I am running out of theories! I am ready for hints! AGBF A Girl's Best Friend
Posted: 5/31/2009 10:52:16 PM

P: 5/31/2009 10:58:47 PM
DiamanteBlu Ideal Rock Total Posts: 2,474 Last Post: 11/6/2009 Member Since: 7/12/2005	Was it the introduction of the whole Panther theme line of jewelry? ============================ Blu "They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety." Ben Franklin, 1759
Posted: 5/31/2009 10:58:47 PM

P: 5/31/2009 11:05:01 PM
Harriet Ideal Rock Total Posts: 11,800 Last Post: 11/19/2009 Member Since: 7/7/2006	Tutti Frutti? "The greatest experts are only as good as the sum total of what they have seen." (Souren Melikian)
Posted: 5/31/2009 11:05:01 PM

P: 5/31/2009 11:51:11 PM
Harriet Ideal Rock Total Posts: 11,800 Last Post: 11/19/2009 Member Since: 7/7/2006	-- "The greatest experts are only as good as the sum total of what they have seen." (Souren Melikian)
Posted: 5/31/2009 11:51:11 PM

P: 6/1/2009 5:33:19 AM
oldmancoyote Ideal Rock Total Posts: 754 Last Post: 6/26/2009 Member Since: 8/22/2008	You got there first, Harriet. If it's not that, I think we are ready for a clue...
Posted: 6/1/2009 5:33:19 AM

P: 6/1/2009 8:15:23 AM
AGBF Ideal Rock Total Posts: 8,043 Last Post: 11/23/2009 Member Since: 1/26/2003	I feel like someone who wandered out onto a soccer field wearing hockey skates. I am not even playing the same game :-(. AGBF A Girl's Best Friend
Posted: 6/1/2009 8:15:23 AM

P: 6/1/2009 11:14:58 AM
jewelerman Ideal Rock Total Posts: 2,193 Last Post: 11/23/2009 Member Since: 9/30/2007	Date: 5/31/2009 11:05:01 PM Author: Harriet Tutti Frutti? Harriet!You are .....right!The style is also called Mogal style and was made popular because of the Indian Royality that were en-trusting Cartier to redesign their antique Royal jewels into the newer Art deco styles....many of their gems were large carved rubies,sapphires and emeralds that were more organic in feel.Also there was the British Royals and Goverment officials that owned old carved large gems that they recieved while India was under British rule(until 1947 I believe)The style stayed popular until just after the second world war.Who has the next question? AGBF....You are in the game!I liked your answer and hope you will come up with questions for us to answer!
Posted: 6/1/2009 11:14:58 AM

P: 6/1/2009 3:46:58 PM
AGBF Ideal Rock Total Posts: 8,043 Last Post: 11/23/2009 Member Since: 1/26/2003	Date: 6/1/2009 11:14:58 AM Author: jewelerman AGBF....You are in the game!I liked your answer and hope you will come up with questions for us to answer! jewelerman, Thank you for giving me a way to remain in the game! I suspect that asking a question may be the only way in which I will be able to participate, given my woeful ignorance of the great jewelry houses about which the rest of you know so much! I have posted my question in this thread. AGBF A Girl's Best Friend
Posted: 6/1/2009 3:46:58 PM

P: 6/2/2009 11:37:42 AM
jewelerman Ideal Rock Total Posts: 2,193 Last Post: 11/23/2009 Member Since: 9/30/2007	next question.... Which famous Haute Couture fashion house dosnt offer fine jewelry? 1-Chanel 2-Gucci 3-Prada
Posted: 6/2/2009 11:37:42 AM

P: 6/2/2009 11:44:03 AM
Honey228 Cut Rock Total Posts: 287 Last Post: 9/3/2009 Member Since: 5/30/2008	Prada?
Posted: 6/2/2009 11:44:03 AM

P: 6/2/2009 1:03:24 PM
AGBF Ideal Rock Total Posts: 8,043 Last Post: 11/23/2009 Member Since: 1/26/2003	Date: 6/2/2009 11:37:42 AM Author: jewelerman next question.... Which famous Haute Couture fashion house dosnt offer fine jewelry? 1-Chanel 2-Gucci 3-Prada I'm going to agree with Honey. A few days ago I saw some Chanel earrings on my 20 year-old niece who said they were her only designer pieces and that she had saved up to buy them. I don't remember seeing any Gucci jewelry, but I am pretty sure I have seen Gucci watches. By the process of elimination, that would leave Prada. Besides, if Prada made jewelry, why wouldn't I have seen any of it? Unless it were ugly, perhaps.... AGBF A Girl's Best Friend
Posted: 6/2/2009 1:03:24 PM

P: 6/2/2009 1:24:50 PM
oldmancoyote Ideal Rock Total Posts: 754 Last Post: 6/26/2009 Member Since: 8/22/2008	The snobbish answer is that none of them makes "fine" jewelry, though Chanel in the 50s certainly did (anyone remembers the "Diana" bracelets designed by Verdura?)...
Posted: 6/2/2009 1:24:50 PM

P: 6/2/2009 1:35:26 PM
Harriet Ideal Rock Total Posts: 11,800 Last Post: 11/19/2009 Member Since: 7/7/2006	Si, mio amico. "The greatest experts are only as good as the sum total of what they have seen." (Souren Melikian)
Posted: 6/2/2009 1:35:26 PM

P: 6/2/2009 1:35:56 PM
jewelerman Ideal Rock Total Posts: 2,193 Last Post: 11/23/2009 Member Since: 9/30/2007	Date: 6/2/2009 1:24:50 PM Author: oldmancoyote The snobbish answer is that none of them makes 'fine' jewelry, though Chanel in the 50s certainly did (anyone remembers the 'Diana' bracelets designed by Verdura?)... I am a big fan of early Verdura!The designs from the 40s are classic. The answer is ....Prada....they just introduced a costume jewelry line in November,but no fine jewels...the other two houses have fine jewels made of precious metals and gems that go into the many thousands.
Posted: 6/2/2009 1:35:56 PM

P: 6/2/2009 1:46:39 PM
Harriet Ideal Rock Total Posts: 11,800 Last Post: 11/19/2009 Member Since: 7/7/2006	What about contemporary Verdura? Meh? "The greatest experts are only as good as the sum total of what they have seen." (Souren Melikian)
Posted: 6/2/2009 1:46:39 PM

P: 6/2/2009 2:10:11 PM
AGBF Ideal Rock Total Posts: 8,043 Last Post: 11/23/2009 Member Since: 1/26/2003	Date: 6/2/2009 1:35:26 PM Author: Harriet Si, mio amico. "amico mio" o "amico caro" o "caro amico".... AGBF A Girl's Best Friend
Posted: 6/2/2009 2:10:11 PM

P: 6/2/2009 2:19:25 PM
Harriet Ideal Rock Total Posts: 11,800 Last Post: 11/19/2009 Member Since: 7/7/2006	Looks like I need that Rosetta Stone software. "The greatest experts are only as good as the sum total of what they have seen." (Souren Melikian)
Posted: 6/2/2009 2:19:25 PM

P: 6/2/2009 3:46:15 PM
oldmancoyote Ideal Rock Total Posts: 754 Last Post: 6/26/2009 Member Since: 8/22/2008	Date: 6/2/2009 1:46:39 PM Author: Harriet What about contemporary Verdura? Meh? More like "mah" (Italian for "who knows?"). The designs are Duke Fulco's and I have no doubt the craftsmanship is pretty good. However, it's a bit like post-1980 David Webb: it's a consistent style but without "life" or innovation.
Posted: 6/2/2009 3:46:15 PM

P: 6/2/2009 5:28:38 PM
AGBF Ideal Rock Total Posts: 8,043 Last Post: 11/23/2009 Member Since: 1/26/2003	Date: 6/2/2009 2:19:25 PM Author: Harriet Looks like I need that Rosetta Stone software. Anche io, cara mia! (Me, too, girlfriend!) Deb A Girl's Best Friend
Posted: 6/2/2009 5:28:38 PM

P: 6/2/2009 6:19:41 PM
jewelerman Ideal Rock Total Posts: 2,193 Last Post: 11/23/2009 Member Since: 9/30/2007	Date: 6/2/2009 3:46:15 PM Author: oldmancoyote Date: 6/2/2009 1:46:39 PM Author: Harriet What about contemporary Verdura? Meh? More like 'mah' (Italian for 'who knows?'). The designs are Duke Fulco's and I have no doubt the craftsmanship is pretty good. However, it's a bit like post-1980 David Webb: it's a consistent style but without 'life' or innovation. i must agree that the older pieces seem to have something that the new pieces dont capture in the modern manufacture...OMC...you and i seem share the same tastes and ideas in design...I think the early works of David webb were brilliant(the animal bangles for example...BTY...great examples are shown in Liz Talors book)
Posted: 6/2/2009 6:19:41 PM

P: 6/2/2009 6:23:27 PM
jewelerman Ideal Rock Total Posts: 2,193 Last Post: 11/23/2009 Member Since: 9/30/2007	Who has the next question?....How about this one for now until someone thinks up a real gang buster.... Why did Queen Victoria incorperate the coiled serpant design in her engagement/wedding ring?
Posted: 6/2/2009 6:23:27 PM

P: 6/2/2009 6:47:31 PM
AGBF Ideal Rock Total Posts: 8,043 Last Post: 11/23/2009 Member Since: 1/26/2003	Date: 6/2/2009 6:23:27 PM Author: jewelerman Why did Queen Victoria incorperate the coiled serpant design in her engagement/wedding ring? Ok...time for speculation, since it is I who am typing and that is all I ever seem to do in this thread ;-). Her Majesty was a prude, but she was not, to my knowledge, a religious zealot. Therefore I am scrapping the notion that the serpent was a warning not to allow the serpent into the Garden of Eden that is marriage. (Yeah, that is the first thought that occurred to me!) I am now wondering if the serpent is a symbol of the marriage or a symbol either of the British Empire or of her fiancé, Albert's, home state. He was some kind of German, was he not? :-) AGBF A Girl's Best Friend
Posted: 6/2/2009 6:47:31 PM

P: 6/2/2009 8:24:22 PM
Harriet Ideal Rock Total Posts: 11,800 Last Post: 11/19/2009 Member Since: 7/7/2006	Date: 6/2/2009 5:28:38 PM Author: AGBF Date: 6/2/2009 2:19:25 PM Author: Harriet Looks like I need that Rosetta Stone software. Anche io, cara mia! (Me, too, girlfriend!) Deb I just priced it! "The greatest experts are only as good as the sum total of what they have seen." (Souren Melikian)
Posted: 6/2/2009 8:24:22 PM

P: 6/2/2009 8:26:22 PM
Harriet Ideal Rock Total Posts: 11,800 Last Post: 11/19/2009 Member Since: 7/7/2006	Deb, we may be saying the same thing. I think the serpent was a Roman symbol for eternity. "The greatest experts are only as good as the sum total of what they have seen." (Souren Melikian)
Posted: 6/2/2009 8:26:22 PM

P: 6/2/2009 11:34:24 PM
Chrono Ideal Rock Total Posts: 11,314 Last Post: 11/23/2009 Member Since: 4/22/2004	This is way out of my league as the only answer I know is Prada not into the fine jewellery business.
Posted: 6/2/2009 11:34:24 PM

P: 6/2/2009 11:56:31 PM
Harriet Ideal Rock Total Posts: 11,800 Last Post: 11/19/2009 Member Since: 7/7/2006	My contribution: Which house created the minaudiere? What did it replace? "The greatest experts are only as good as the sum total of what they have seen." (Souren Melikian)
Posted: 6/2/2009 11:56:31 PM

P: 6/3/2009 12:15:09 AM
marcyc Ideal Rock Total Posts: 7,820 Last Post: 11/23/2009 Member Since: 2/27/2007	I am ashamed to admit I don't know the answers to any of these either. I feel like I should go back to basics like what color is rhodolite? Just kidding. Keep the questions coming. Sparkle On My Friends!
Posted: 6/3/2009 12:15:09 AM

P: 6/3/2009 9:22:08 AM
Honey228 Cut Rock Total Posts: 287 Last Post: 9/3/2009 Member Since: 5/30/2008	Date: 6/2/2009 8:26:22 PM Author: Harriet Deb, we may be saying the same thing. I think the serpent was a Roman symbol for eternity. I'll third this. The snakes are biting each other's tails and symbolize eternity (remember it in The Neverending Story? Heehee.) I remember a discussion about it in the Royal Jewels thread and that this motif cropped up in a couple of different civilizations. Marcyc, a couple of months ago, I wouldn't have known what color rhodolite was. Is there no gemstone trivia in these quiz threads?
Posted: 6/3/2009 9:22:08 AM

P: 6/3/2009 9:38:08 AM
Kismet Ideal Rock Total Posts: 1,444 Last Post: 11/21/2009 Member Since: 5/6/2005	Date: 6/2/2009 6:23:27 PM Author: jewelerman Who has the next question?....How about this one for now until someone thinks up a real gang buster.... Why did Queen Victoria incorperate the coiled serpant design in her engagement/wedding ring? Doesn't it symbolize eternal love? _____________________________________________________ Kismet's rings
Posted: 6/3/2009 9:38:08 AM

P: 6/4/2009 11:27:17 AM
jewelerman Ideal Rock Total Posts: 2,193 Last Post: 11/23/2009 Member Since: 9/30/2007	Date: 6/2/2009 11:56:31 PM Author: Harriet My contribution: Which house created the minaudiere? What did it replace? Harriet...great question!I had to cheat and look up the word...but when i found out it was a gem encrusted case then i knew how to answer...I say that its was either cartier or tiffany that created this jewelry item...before the first world war few women wore makeup(considered mainly used by women of questionable taste and virtue)but after the war into the early 1920s that changed and the case was designed to be carried to dinner or night clubs for re-application of cosmetics...its replaced a large handbag is my guess....the deco cases with coral,jade,lapis inlays by cartier are the best example in my opinion!
Posted: 6/4/2009 11:27:17 AM

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