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P:  1/5/2004 10:45:56 PM  
abbymax825
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Does anyone have any thoughts on the cushion cut. Is it as brilliant as a round brilliant? When looking at the dimensions, should they be close so that you know that it is square, or are they all square (some seem to be rectangular and I definatly like the more square look) What should the depth, table and pavillion numbers be, or is there a standard?

 


Posted:  1/5/2004 10:45:56 PM

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P: 1/6/2004 7:42:42 AM
valeria101
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On 1/5/2004 10:45:56 PM abbymax825 wrote:


...thoughts on the cushion cut.

#1. Is it as brilliant as a round brilliant?
NO. Most cushion cuts are made to resemble "antique" stones, not to sparkle. There are some brand name cushion cuts (cushette) that were cut for light return. In theory, this cut may perform well as a "fancy" but rounds are the model with the best potential. However, since your concern is not about "theoretical stones", a cushion may be able to compete with a non-top round, like some fancies do. Finding a cushion cut with good light return seems sounds like a hunt for the proverbial needle. Surely there IS a needle somewhere, though.



#2 When looking at the dimensions, should they be close so that you know that it is square, or are they all square (some seem to be rectangular and I definatly like the more square look).
This is a matter of choice entirely: to be honest, most cushion cuts seem to be square or close. I only know one long exception.



#3 What should the depth, table and pavillion numbers be, or is there a standard?
There is not standard, to the best of my knowledge. You will have to deal with the same issues the buyers of fancy shape have to: if you want light return, the only way to know what a stone gives is to chech it in person. You could probably decide on some rule of thumb, so that excessive depth does not make the piece look 3/4 what a round should (how about an 80% deep cushion?) or you don't get an extreme number for the table (one can get numbers around 80% or below 50% - both quite strange to look at). I guess you can get more adice of this type, but not a clear-cut answer as there is for rounds. I am myself curious to know wether any of the ACA sets of measures may apply to cushion cuts.

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Ana "The greatest experts are only as good as the sum total of what they have seen." [Souren Melikian]

Posted:  1/6/2004 7:42:42 AM
P: 1/6/2004 8:06:31 AM
Pricescope
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Hi Valeria101,

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Most cushion cuts are made to resemble 'antique' stones...
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I think you are right.
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There are some brand name cushion cuts (cushette) that were cut for light return.
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Not sure about that. We’ve seen some Cushette stones in Vegas with Garry. They looked nice under halogen lights but Garry wasn't very happy how they look in IdealScope.
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In theory, this cut may perform well as a 'fancy'...
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Agreed

Garry at Cushette' booth. One of the cutters looks at his stones via IdealScope.




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Posted:  1/6/2004 8:06:31 AM
P: 1/6/2004 8:17:40 AM
oldminer
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Nicely cut cushion stones are "rare", but not impossible to find. I believe there is one with hearts and arrows even, called the "Regent". You will find the nicest ones with paramters falling between round and ovals in the AGA charts.
It depends if the one you find or the one you prefer is square or oblong.

David S. Atlas

GG(GIA), ASG, Sr. Mbr. NAJA

www.datlas.com





Posted:  1/6/2004 8:17:40 AM
P: 1/6/2004 8:47:01 AM
valeria101
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On 1/6/2004 8:06:31 AM leonid wrote:

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We’ve seen some Cushette stones in Vegas with Garry. They looked nice under halogen lights but Garry wasn't very happy how they look in IdealScope.

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Thanks! This is good to know... actually, the sellers of this brand do not provide tests for light return: there is only a claim that the Cushette intended the cut to stand out for brilliance (not an uncommon claim, is it? ) Also, I was curious about this special TM. cutiing on theirs. I could not get my hands on a cushette cut to see under magnification (at lest) and I would really appreciate any explanation bout what exactly they do with the stones' pavilions?

Ana "The greatest experts are only as good as the sum total of what they have seen." [Souren Melikian]

Posted:  1/6/2004 8:47:01 AM

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