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Proposing with just a loose diamond?

P: 5/22/2009 8:43:01 PM
Moh 10 Ideal Rock Total Posts: 1,004 Last Post: 8/18/2009 Member Since: 10/25/2008	Have any of you heard of someone proposing with just a loose diamond - either with or without one of those ring-clamps? I know a guy who wants to pick the diamond but knows his lady wants to pick the setting.
Posted: 5/22/2009 8:43:01 PM

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P: 5/22/2009 9:01:13 PM
ficklefaye Ideal Rock Total Posts: 1,180 Last Post: 9/30/2009 Member Since: 10/12/2008	yup, my FI proposed with a loose diamond, i really loved the fact that he left the setting to me because i love rings if you've read any of my previous posts, my third setting is in the works, but that's only because the first two weren't made very well your friend's FI will also be surprised how much larger the diamond will look when it is set, i swear my diamond looked tiny in the box it was in, but set, it looked a lot bigger
Posted: 5/22/2009 9:01:13 PM

P: 5/22/2009 9:05:29 PM
rosebud10 Ideal Rock Total Posts: 554 Last Post: 10/11/2009 Member Since: 8/5/2008	I'd try to get it at least put into one of those clamps... a loose diamond is way easier to lose than a set diamond. I do think it's a great idea to let her choose the setting though!!! What about a cheap temporary setting?
Posted: 5/22/2009 9:05:29 PM

P: 5/22/2009 10:37:28 PM
denverappraiser Ideal Rock Total Posts: 4,614 Last Post: 11/22/2009 Member Since: 7/21/2004	Dont do it. The presentation is part of the show and the ring is an important part of that. An inexpensive ring will cost you less than the dinner where you present it and you can get it reset later. If you know what jeweler you are going to use for the final ring they might even be willing to make a deal where they sell you a simple thing and take it back as a tradein on the finished piece. Ring clamps are tacky. It's just not the same thing. Neil Beaty GG(GIA) ICGA(AGS) NAJA Professional Appraisals in Denver There's never a crowd when you go that extra mile.
Posted: 5/22/2009 10:37:28 PM

P: 5/22/2009 11:34:24 PM
diamondseeker2006 Ideal Rock Total Posts: 17,609 Last Post: 11/18/2009 Member Since: 1/11/2006	Date: 5/22/2009 10:37:28 PM Author: denverappraiser Dont do it. The presentation is part of the show and the ring is an important part of that. An inexpensive ring will cost you less than the dinner where you present it and you can get it reset later. If you know what jeweler you are going to use for the final ring they might even be willing to make a deal where they sell you a simple thing and take it back as a tradein on the finished piece. Ring clamps are tacky. It's just not the same thing. Neil Beaty GG(GIA) ICGA(AGS) NAJA Professional Appraisals in Denver Totally agree...please spend the couple hundred dollars and have the diamond set in a plain tiffany style setting. That way she can wear the ring until she finds her dream setting. I think it would be really disappointing to get engaged and not be able to show the ring to family and friends. ~~~ When in doubt...don't.~~~
Posted: 5/22/2009 11:34:24 PM

P: 5/23/2009 12:47:51 AM
ficklefaye Ideal Rock Total Posts: 1,180 Last Post: 9/30/2009 Member Since: 10/12/2008	Date: 5/22/2009 10:37:28 PM Author: denverappraiser Don’t do it. The presentation is part of the show and the ring is an important part of that. An inexpensive ring will cost you less than the dinner where you present it and you can get it reset later. If you know what jeweler you are going to use for the final ring they might even be willing to make a deal where they sell you a simple thing and take it back as a tradein on the finished piece. Ring clamps are tacky. It's just not the same thing. Neil Beaty GG(GIA) ICGA(AGS) NAJA Professional Appraisals in Denver i agree with neil, but to give my two cents, if my FI proposed with a setting like a inexpensive tiffany style setting, i would have kept it in there for sentimental purposes, but because i received just a diamond, i felt free to purchase the setting i wanted, but again that might just be me if she isn't sentimental about keeping the setting on the proposal ring, then the cheap setting is the way to go
Posted: 5/23/2009 12:47:51 AM

P: 5/23/2009 4:27:45 AM
Lorelei Ideal Rock Total Posts: 34,228 Last Post: 11/23/2009 Member Since: 4/30/2005	Date: 5/22/2009 11:34:24 PM Author: diamondseeker2006 Date: 5/22/2009 10:37:28 PM Author: denverappraiser Dont do it. The presentation is part of the show and the ring is an important part of that. An inexpensive ring will cost you less than the dinner where you present it and you can get it reset later. If you know what jeweler you are going to use for the final ring they might even be willing to make a deal where they sell you a simple thing and take it back as a tradein on the finished piece. Ring clamps are tacky. It's just not the same thing. Neil Beaty GG(GIA) ICGA(AGS) NAJA Professional Appraisals in Denver Totally agree...please spend the couple hundred dollars and have the diamond set in a plain tiffany style setting. That way she can wear the ring until she finds her dream setting. I think it would be really disappointing to get engaged and not be able to show the ring to family and friends. Thritto Nothing is more sacred as the bond between horse and rider...no other creature can ever become so emotionally close to a human as a horse. When a horse dies, the memory lives on because an enormous part of his owner's heart, soul, very existence dies also...but that can never be laid to rest, it is not meant to be... - Stephanie M Thorn
Posted: 5/23/2009 4:27:45 AM

P: 5/23/2009 6:47:22 AM
Ellen Ideal Rock Total Posts: 22,894 Last Post: 11/6/2009 Member Since: 1/13/2006	I would agree that ring clamps don't evoke gushes and chills, but I'd have no problem being proposed to with a loose diamond presented in a pretty/clever way. If they both know she wants to pick the setting, this would not come as a letdown. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ "It is also important for the State to inculcate in its subjects an aversion to any 'conspiracy theory of history' for a search for 'conspiracies' means a search for motives and an attribution of responsibility for historical misdeeds." -Murray N. Rothbard, in The Anatomy of the State John Swinton [1829-1901] Chief Editorial Writer of the New York Times (Considered "the Dean of his Profession" by his peers), when asked to toast an 'Independent Press' in a gathering at the National Press Club, circa 1880 "There is no such thing in America as an independent press unless it is in the country towns. You know it, and I know it. There is not one of you who dare express an honest opinion. If you express it you know beforehand that it would never appear in print. I am paid... for keeping my honest opinions out of the paper I am connected with. Others of you are paid similar salaries for doing similar things.... The business of the New York journalist is to distort the truth, to lie outright, to pervert, to vilify, to fawn at the feet of Mammon, and sell his country and race for his daily bread, or for what is about the same thing, his salary. You know this, and I know it and what foolery to be toasting an 'independent press.' We are tools, and the vassals of rich men behind the scenes. We are jumping-jacks. They pull the strings and we dance. Our time, our talents, our lives, our possibilities, all are the property of other men. We are intellectual prostitutes."
Posted: 5/23/2009 6:47:22 AM

P: 5/23/2009 8:59:52 AM
ILoveDiamondsToo Rough Rock Total Posts: 40 Last Post: 9/11/2009 Member Since: 5/17/2009	I would much rather be proposed to with a loose diamond than to think he spent hard earned money on a setting that was going to be discarded. I would also have trouble replacing the setting with one I liked for sentimental reasons. Maybe if you proposed with the diamond and some setting pictures so that she can immediately start thinking about it? Does she have friends you can ask?
Posted: 5/23/2009 8:59:52 AM

P: 5/23/2009 9:55:04 AM
Moh 10 Ideal Rock Total Posts: 1,004 Last Post: 8/18/2009 Member Since: 10/25/2008	Thanks guys for all the good input. I'll pass it all on to the lucky guy.
Posted: 5/23/2009 9:55:04 AM

P: 5/23/2009 10:14:43 AM
Ellen Ideal Rock Total Posts: 22,894 Last Post: 11/6/2009 Member Since: 1/13/2006	Well now you've got my curiosity up, so let us know what he ends up doing! ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ "It is also important for the State to inculcate in its subjects an aversion to any 'conspiracy theory of history' for a search for 'conspiracies' means a search for motives and an attribution of responsibility for historical misdeeds." -Murray N. Rothbard, in The Anatomy of the State John Swinton [1829-1901] Chief Editorial Writer of the New York Times (Considered "the Dean of his Profession" by his peers), when asked to toast an 'Independent Press' in a gathering at the National Press Club, circa 1880 "There is no such thing in America as an independent press unless it is in the country towns. You know it, and I know it. There is not one of you who dare express an honest opinion. If you express it you know beforehand that it would never appear in print. I am paid... for keeping my honest opinions out of the paper I am connected with. Others of you are paid similar salaries for doing similar things.... The business of the New York journalist is to distort the truth, to lie outright, to pervert, to vilify, to fawn at the feet of Mammon, and sell his country and race for his daily bread, or for what is about the same thing, his salary. You know this, and I know it and what foolery to be toasting an 'independent press.' We are tools, and the vassals of rich men behind the scenes. We are jumping-jacks. They pull the strings and we dance. Our time, our talents, our lives, our possibilities, all are the property of other men. We are intellectual prostitutes."
Posted: 5/23/2009 10:14:43 AM

P: 5/23/2009 12:07:28 PM
Imdanny Ideal Rock Total Posts: 1,831 Last Post: 11/17/2009 Member Since: 1/22/2008	Date: 5/22/2009 10:37:28 PM Author: denverappraiser Don’t do it. The presentation is part of the show and the ring is an important part of that. An inexpensive ring will cost you less than the dinner where you present it and you can get it reset later. If you know what jeweler you are going to use for the final ring they might even be willing to make a deal where they sell you a simple thing and take it back as a tradein on the finished piece. Ring clamps are tacky. It's just not the same thing. Neil Beaty GG(GIA) ICGA(AGS) NAJA Professional Appraisals in Denver Sign me here.
Posted: 5/23/2009 12:07:28 PM

P: 5/23/2009 12:17:58 PM
MMT Ideal Rock Total Posts: 2,565 Last Post: 7/14/2009 Member Since: 6/24/2008	Date: 5/23/2009 6:47:22 AM Author: Ellen I would agree that ring clamps don't evoke gushes and chills, but I'd have no problem being proposed to with a loose diamond presented in a pretty/clever way. If they both know she wants to pick the setting, this would not come as a letdown. I agree. Let us know how it goes
Posted: 5/23/2009 12:17:58 PM

P: 5/23/2009 12:25:50 PM
CharmyPoo Ideal Rock Total Posts: 1,579 Last Post: 11/23/2009 Member Since: 12/10/2004	I want to know too. Or you can suggest your friend pick up a semi mount from eBay. There are lots of China sellers and the rings are pretty decent. You can easily get one for around $100.
Posted: 5/23/2009 12:25:50 PM

P: 5/23/2009 3:02:01 PM
laurenfischer5 Cut Rock Total Posts: 245 Last Post: 11/17/2009 Member Since: 5/17/2009	Date: 5/22/2009 10:37:28 PM Author: denverappraiser Dont do it. The presentation is part of the show and the ring is an important part of that. An inexpensive ring will cost you less than the dinner where you present it and you can get it reset later. If you know what jeweler you are going to use for the final ring they might even be willing to make a deal where they sell you a simple thing and take it back as a tradein on the finished piece. Ring clamps are tacky. It's just not the same thing. Neil Beaty GG(GIA) ICGA(AGS) NAJA Professional Appraisals in Denver I agree. As soon my FI proposed I wanted to show my ring to everyone! Just tell her the setting is temporary and she can take her time picking out one she really likes... Lauren Fischer
Posted: 5/23/2009 3:02:01 PM

P: 5/23/2009 3:09:36 PM
laurenfischer5 Cut Rock Total Posts: 245 Last Post: 11/17/2009 Member Since: 5/17/2009	Date: 5/23/2009 12:47:51 AM Author: ficklefaye Date: 5/22/2009 10:37:28 PM Author: denverappraiser Don’t do it. The presentation is part of the show and the ring is an important part of that. An inexpensive ring will cost you less than the dinner where you present it and you can get it reset later. If you know what jeweler you are going to use for the final ring they might even be willing to make a deal where they sell you a simple thing and take it back as a tradein on the finished piece. Ring clamps are tacky. It's just not the same thing. Neil Beaty GG(GIA) ICGA(AGS) NAJA Professional Appraisals in Denver i agree with neil, but to give my two cents, if my FI proposed with a setting like a inexpensive tiffany style setting, i would have kept it in there for sentimental purposes, but because i received just a diamond, i felt free to purchase the setting i wanted, but again that might just be me if she isn't sentimental about keeping the setting on the proposal ring, then the cheap setting is the way to go If thats the case and she is really sentamental then she can put a pretty gemstone or something in the original setting so she can still keep it Lauren Fischer
Posted: 5/23/2009 3:09:36 PM

P: 5/23/2009 4:21:59 PM
MC Ideal Rock Total Posts: 8,835 Last Post: 11/23/2009 Member Since: 2/8/2003	Temp setting. . .Big reason would be because it may take her a few months to find the perfect setting and in the meantime, she'll want to wear the diamond!
Posted: 5/23/2009 4:21:59 PM

P: 5/24/2009 6:25:27 AM
Adah Cut Rock Total Posts: 111 Last Post: 5/30/2009 Member Since: 5/22/2009	I think the setting is a great idea. Either way I'm sure she'll love that the care was taken for her to choose her own setting. ************ Ada Dip. Gem student.
Posted: 5/24/2009 6:25:27 AM

P: 5/24/2009 9:49:56 AM
D&T Ideal Rock Total Posts: 7,443 Last Post: 11/23/2009 Member Since: 10/27/2008	Do a Temp Setting, it think its agonizing enough waiting to get the porposal why wait even longer for the actual ring.
Posted: 5/24/2009 9:49:56 AM

P: 5/24/2009 5:24:26 PM
glitterata Ideal Rock Total Posts: 3,364 Last Post: 11/22/2009 Member Since: 4/17/2002	Here's a suggestion I bet nobody else will like: Set it in a sterling silver temporary setting. That way it will be safe, but she will not feel tempted to keep it in the setting since sterling silver is too soft to last for decades of daily wear. But it will be fine for the months (or even years) it takes her to find a permanent setting, way safer than a gem holder.
Posted: 5/24/2009 5:24:26 PM

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