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| P: 5/22/2009 8:10:52 PM | |
my_my969 Rough Rock Total Posts: 20 Last Post: 6/25/2009 Member Since: 5/22/2009 |
hey guys, i`m a newbie here in this forum and i`ve just bought a Diamond at Diamondland.be in Antwerp. I´m wondering if this is a good diamond for the price of 2800euros = 3900 USDollar. certificat from IGI Natural Diamond, round Brilliant carat weight 0.70 carat color grade F clarity grade vvs1 cut grade excellent polish excellent symmetry excellent measurements 5,78-5.88 x 3.39 mm Table 59% crown Height- Angle 13,5% - 33.5° Pavilion Depth - Angle 42% - 40° Girdle Thickness Medium to Sl.Thick (Fac.) culet Pointed Fluorescence very Slight comments Ideal cut round Brilliant Thanks for helping me |
| Posted: 5/22/2009 8:10:52 PM | |
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| P: 5/23/2009 4:43:29 AM | |
Lorelei Ideal Rock Total Posts: 34,212 Last Post: 11/22/2009 Member Since: 4/30/2005 |
Date: 5/22/2009 8:10:52 PM Author:my_my969 hey guys, i`m a newbie here in this forum and i`ve just bought a Diamond at Diamondland.be in Antwerp. I´m wondering if this is a good diamond for the price of 2800euros = 3900 USDollar. certificat from IGI Natural Diamond, round Brilliant carat weight 0.70 carat color grade F clarity grade vvs1 cut grade excellent polish excellent symmetry excellent measurements 5,78-5.88 x 3.39 mm Table 59% crown Height- Angle 13,5% - 33.5° Pavilion Depth - Angle 42% - 40° Girdle Thickness Medium to Sl.Thick (Fac.) culet Pointed Fluorescence very Slight comments Ideal cut round Brilliant Thanks for helping me
 Nothing is more sacred as the bond between horse and rider...no other creature can ever become so emotionally close to a human as a horse. When a horse dies, the memory lives on because an enormous part of his owner's heart, soul, very existence dies also...but that can never be laid to rest, it is not meant to be... - Stephanie M Thorn |
| Posted: 5/23/2009 4:43:29 AM | |
| P: 5/23/2009 11:37:23 AM | |
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phoenixgirl Ideal Rock Total Posts: 2,494 Last Post: 11/22/2009 Member Since: 3/20/2003 |
This stone has the same color, clarity, and size, but not similar percentages for the cut: pphttp://search.virtcert.com/cgi/u/1012/v.cgi?stock=9355208&_s=1012&_p=sdf348gd743&_c=&_fs=1&prestock=&_ln=ps It's priced at $2700. Assuming your stone has a better cut, I still wouldn't imagine that justifies a price increase of 40%. You can get an AGS0 H&A stone with the "same" (because IGI obviously isn't priced the same) stats for about the same price you paid: http://www.jamesallen.com/diamonds/F-VVS1-Ideal-Cut-Round-Diamond-1236885.asp?b=16&a=12&c=77&cid=131
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| Posted: 5/23/2009 11:37:23 AM | |
| P: 5/23/2009 2:32:26 PM | |
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my_my969 Rough Rock Total Posts: 20 Last Post: 6/25/2009 Member Since: 5/22/2009 |
thank you guys for responding so fast but after reading this I`m getting a little bit nervous. @lorelai, how do you calculate the total depth and how much should the pavillion angle be for this diamond? Do I pay to much? How much should this Diamond cost? @Phonix girl, are this prices from you incl.Tax? The prices I payd are incl. everythings. At the moment I`m really thinking about returning it back. The Ring is stil at their shop for setting but i `ve made a downpayment of 500Euro and i don`t know if i could get it back. Thanks again for all your helps.
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| Posted: 5/23/2009 2:32:26 PM | |
| P: 5/23/2009 3:26:34 PM | |
Stone-cold11 Ideal Rock Total Posts: 6,864 Last Post: 11/22/2009 Member Since: 9/9/2008 |
Total depth % is calculated from the physical dimensions. Depth/radius X 100. The pavilion angle for this stone should be around 40.8 to 41 instead of 40. degrees.
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| Posted: 5/23/2009 3:26:34 PM | |
| P: 5/23/2009 3:32:22 PM | |
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Stone-cold11 Ideal Rock Total Posts: 6,864 Last Post: 11/22/2009 Member Since: 9/9/2008 |
Check out this CraftedbyInfintiy stone. AGS0 0.74c F VS1 at just over 4k USD. http://www.highperformancediamonds.com/index.php?page=view-id-diamond-infinity&id=304 Their main office is in Antwerp and the dealer there is Rob of diamondhouse.http://www.diamondhouse.be/ They can bring this stone or any other stones you find in highperformancediamond in for you to view. CraftedbyInfinity retailers' page. http://www.craftedbyinfinity.com/index.php?pid=62&lang=eng
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| Posted: 5/23/2009 3:32:22 PM | |
| P: 5/23/2009 3:50:03 PM | |
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Lorelei Ideal Rock Total Posts: 34,212 Last Post: 11/22/2009 Member Since: 4/30/2005 |
Date: 5/23/2009 2:32:26 PM Author: my_my969 thank you guys for responding so fast but after reading this I`m getting a little bit nervous. @lorelai, how do you calculate the total depth and how much should the pavillion angle be for this diamond? Do I pay to much? How much should this Diamond cost? @Phonix girl, are this prices from you incl.Tax? The prices I payd are incl. everythings. At the moment I`m really thinking about returning it back. The Ring is stil at their shop for setting but i `ve made a downpayment of 500Euro and i don`t know if i could get it back. Thanks again for all your helps. A good match for this crown angle could be 40.7 - 41 degrees according to which grading lab and the amount of rounding. You could likely do better than this diamond, if you are unsure then contact DL and ask if you can get a refund on the deposit, I don't see why this wouldn't be possible. Nothing is more sacred as the bond between horse and rider...no other creature can ever become so emotionally close to a human as a horse. When a horse dies, the memory lives on because an enormous part of his owner's heart, soul, very existence dies also...but that can never be laid to rest, it is not meant to be... - Stephanie M Thorn |
| Posted: 5/23/2009 3:50:03 PM | |
| P: 5/24/2009 1:54:54 AM | |
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my_my969 Rough Rock Total Posts: 20 Last Post: 6/25/2009 Member Since: 5/22/2009 |
hmmm...at the moment I`m thinking about, how to explain DL that I don`t want the diamond because of the lower angle. I`m afraid she will say, it is certificated as an excellent cut ....and that I´m not a prof and have no clue.
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| Posted: 5/24/2009 1:54:54 AM | |
| P: 5/24/2009 5:28:29 AM | |
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Lorelei Ideal Rock Total Posts: 34,212 Last Post: 11/22/2009 Member Since: 4/30/2005 |
Date: 5/24/2009 1:54:54 AM Author: my_my969 hmmm...at the moment I`m thinking about, how to explain DL that I don`t want the diamond because of the lower angle. I`m afraid she will say, it is certificated as an excellent cut ....and that I´m not a prof and have no clue. I understand. Out of interest, cut labels such as Excellent, Ideal etc aren't always a guarantee of a well cut diamond. Nothing is more sacred as the bond between horse and rider...no other creature can ever become so emotionally close to a human as a horse. When a horse dies, the memory lives on because an enormous part of his owner's heart, soul, very existence dies also...but that can never be laid to rest, it is not meant to be... - Stephanie M Thorn |
| Posted: 5/24/2009 5:28:29 AM | |
| P: 5/24/2009 7:17:01 AM | |
DiamondFlame Ideal Rock Total Posts: 645 Last Post: 9/3/2009 Member Since: 2/7/2009 |
Date: 5/24/2009 1:54:54 AM Author: my_my969 hmmm...at the moment I`m thinking about, how to explain DL that I don`t want the diamond because of the lower angle. I`m afraid she will say, it is certificated as an excellent cut ....and that I´m not a prof and have no clue. Just tell her you could get a better diamond. I'm not sure how many ladies out there would actually say no to 'better' diamonds... 
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| Posted: 5/24/2009 7:17:01 AM | |
| P: 5/24/2009 11:59:34 AM | |
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my_my969 Rough Rock Total Posts: 20 Last Post: 6/25/2009 Member Since: 5/22/2009 |
So i wrote her a letter.hopefully she will refund. Dear Maggy, we were on Friday 22. May approximately16:00 o`clock at your shop and finaly have bought an Diamand 0.7, VVS1 (artikel number 26065). First of all I would like to thank you for the nice, friendly service. But after checking the Diamond Report , it appears, that the Diamond total Depth/ Angle is a little bit low. The pavilion angle for this stone should be around 40.8 to 41 instead of 40. degrees. Furthermore I would like to have a diamond with Laser Inscription and a GIA report. Can you refund our Downpayment 500€ and we will come to you to select another diamond
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| Posted: 5/24/2009 11:59:34 AM | |
| P: 5/24/2009 1:35:44 PM | |
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Lorelei Ideal Rock Total Posts: 34,212 Last Post: 11/22/2009 Member Since: 4/30/2005 |
Date: 5/24/2009 11:59:34 AM Author: my_my969 So i wrote her a letter.hopefully she will refund. Dear Maggy, we were on Friday 22. May approximately16:00 o`clock at your shop and finaly have bought an Diamand 0.7, VVS1 (artikel number 26065). First of all I would like to thank you for the nice, friendly service. But after checking the Diamond Report , it appears, that the Diamond total Depth/ Angle is a little bit low. The pavilion angle for this stone should be around 40.8 to 41 instead of 40. degrees. Furthermore I would like to have a diamond with Laser Inscription and a GIA report. Can you refund our Downpayment 500€ and we will come to you to select another diamond Bear in mind this is only an opinion, if the seller isn't cut focused she might not understand the importance of the crown and pavilion angles especially. Nothing is more sacred as the bond between horse and rider...no other creature can ever become so emotionally close to a human as a horse. When a horse dies, the memory lives on because an enormous part of his owner's heart, soul, very existence dies also...but that can never be laid to rest, it is not meant to be... - Stephanie M Thorn |
| Posted: 5/24/2009 1:35:44 PM | |
| P: 5/24/2009 3:24:19 PM | |
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my_my969 Rough Rock Total Posts: 20 Last Post: 6/25/2009 Member Since: 5/22/2009 |
hhmmm.... I hope she will understand. She told me, that she has work there for over 12 years. Otherwise I have to write her more in the next email. I wish, i have found priscope before getting the diamond.
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| Posted: 5/24/2009 3:24:19 PM | |
| P: 5/24/2009 3:53:26 PM | |
16ocean Rough Rock Total Posts: 79 Last Post: 11/5/2009 Member Since: 5/4/2009 |
Will keep fingers crossed for you hope it works out in the best possible way!
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| Posted: 5/24/2009 3:53:26 PM | |
| P: 5/25/2009 8:45:39 AM | |
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my_my969 Rough Rock Total Posts: 20 Last Post: 6/25/2009 Member Since: 5/22/2009 |
So she wrote back, Thank you very much for your email. I will try my best to help you to find GIA certificate diamond with laser on the diamond ( it is not all GIA certificate diamond with a laser number) and without fluoresces but I can not quarantine you it is triple excellent cut… And GIA certificate diamond will also cost you a bit more, since the diamond has to be sent to the USA to be certified and insured . Concerning about diamond DEPTH and PAVILLION , as I told you before, if it is a Triple excellent cut diamond which means there is a tolerance accepted in the proportions of the diamond and don’t forget you have a triple excellent cut diamond and when you look it in reality it is full of life, fire and sparkles … that is the most important elements of a beautiful diamond, for this I don’t think I can find you something even better.. Please let me know your decision Best regards
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| Posted: 5/25/2009 8:45:39 AM | |
| P: 5/25/2009 8:52:39 AM | |
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Lorelei Ideal Rock Total Posts: 34,212 Last Post: 11/22/2009 Member Since: 4/30/2005 |
Date: 5/25/2009 8:45:39 AM Author: my_my969 So she wrote back, Thank you very much for your email. I will try my best to help you to find GIA certificate diamond with laser on the diamond ( it is not all GIA certificate diamond with a laser number) and without fluoresces but I can not quarantine you it is triple excellent cut… And GIA certificate diamond will also cost you a bit more, since the diamond has to be sent to the USA to be certified and insured . Concerning about diamond DEPTH and PAVILLION , as I told you before, if it is a Triple excellent cut diamond which means there is a tolerance accepted in the proportions of the diamond and don’t forget you have a triple excellent cut diamond and when you look it in reality it is full of life, fire and sparkles … that is the most important elements of a beautiful diamond, for this I don’t think I can find you something even better.. Please let me know your decision Best regards If she is referring to GIA triple EX really doesn't guarantee you a well cut diamond unfortunately. I don't think by the sound of it this seller is cut focused. Really rather that concentrating on triple ex I would rather have a diamond with good proportions, depth, table, crown and pavilion angles even if it has a very good cut grade, polish and symmetry. Such a diamond could perform better than the above. What you could do is to ask if she can source you any AGS0 cut grade diamonds or AGS1 as this might help you find a well cut diamond. Alternatively we could look at GIA Excellent or Very Good cut grade but as the criteria for this cut grade is broad it can take a little work to weed out the best proportioned diamonds. Nothing is more sacred as the bond between horse and rider...no other creature can ever become so emotionally close to a human as a horse. When a horse dies, the memory lives on because an enormous part of his owner's heart, soul, very existence dies also...but that can never be laid to rest, it is not meant to be... - Stephanie M Thorn |
| Posted: 5/25/2009 8:52:39 AM | |
| P: 5/25/2009 9:34:43 AM | |
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my_my969 Rough Rock Total Posts: 20 Last Post: 6/25/2009 Member Since: 5/22/2009 |
i`ve found on pricescope another Diamond, it`s a little better right? 0.70 Carat F-VVS1 Premium Cut Round Diamond This F color, VVS1 clarity diamond has Premium proportions, a diamond grading report from GIA and a full 30 Day inspection period. Price: $3,460 Pricescope Price: $3,250 and the Gia report http://www.jamesallen.com/certs/2106087144.JPG So i`ve paid over 700$ more right.
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| Posted: 5/25/2009 9:34:43 AM | |
| P: 5/25/2009 9:36:05 AM | |
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Lorelei Ideal Rock Total Posts: 34,212 Last Post: 11/22/2009 Member Since: 4/30/2005 |
Date: 5/25/2009 9:34:43 AM Author: my_my969 i`ve found on pricescope another Diamond, it`s a little better right? 0.70 Carat F-VVS1 Premium Cut Round Diamond This F color, VVS1 clarity diamond has Premium proportions, a diamond grading report from GIA and a full 30 Day inspection period. Price: $3,460 Pricescope Price: $3,250 and the Gia report http://www.jamesallen.com/certs/2106087144.JPG So i`ve paid over 700$ more right. Just fixing the link then I will take a look. http://www.jamesallen.com/certs/2106087144.JPG This one has potential but I would like to see an Idealscope image for this angle combo, James Allen will be able to provide one on request. Nothing is more sacred as the bond between horse and rider...no other creature can ever become so emotionally close to a human as a horse. When a horse dies, the memory lives on because an enormous part of his owner's heart, soul, very existence dies also...but that can never be laid to rest, it is not meant to be... - Stephanie M Thorn |
| Posted: 5/25/2009 9:36:05 AM | |
| P: 5/26/2009 7:52:48 AM | |
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my_my969 Rough Rock Total Posts: 20 Last Post: 6/25/2009 Member Since: 5/22/2009 |
ok she wrote back, You can read by yourself the clarity characteristics: Chip Finish!!!! Following me this diamond definitely isn’t at all the perfect stone that you are looking for. Also I strongly resent your technical comment on the shade provoked by your body’s shadow. This is not possible with a triple Excellent like the one I have presented to you. Another factor that is not measurable is the translucidity of the crystal. No diamond laboratory in the world mentions that because only the human eye can detect the differences. Altogether the diamond I have presented to you is a very high quality diamond. But of course if you are purchasing a good price instead of a good diamond I will have to find a similar diamond with a hidden default. And a good triple excellent cut diamond 0.70ct F VVS 2 in your website link costs 4040 US dollars. Be sure you really bought a very good diamond with a very good price from us.
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| Posted: 5/26/2009 7:52:48 AM | |
| P: 5/26/2009 8:10:27 AM | |
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Lorelei Ideal Rock Total Posts: 34,212 Last Post: 11/22/2009 Member Since: 4/30/2005 |
Date: 5/26/2009 7:52:48 AM Author: my_my969 ok she wrote back, You can read by yourself the clarity characteristics: Chip Finish!!!! Following me this diamond definitely isn’t at all the perfect stone that you are looking for. Also I strongly resent your technical comment on the shade provoked by your body’s shadow. This is not possible with a triple Excellent like the one I have presented to you. Another factor that is not measurable is the translucidity of the crystal. No diamond laboratory in the world mentions that because only the human eye can detect the differences. Altogether the diamond I have presented to you is a very high quality diamond. But of course if you are purchasing a good price instead of a good diamond I will have to find a similar diamond with a hidden default. And a good triple excellent cut diamond 0.70ct F VVS 2 in your website link costs 4040 US dollars. Be sure you really bought a very good diamond with a very good price from us. Firstly a VVS1 chip is nothing to be concerned with. Did you send her the link to the above diamond? If so then she is going to prefer you stick to the diamond she sold you or for you to buy another from her. Also obstruction with such a shallow pavilion angle is indeed possible due to head or body shadow, she might not be familiar with this effect. What is the situation as I am unclear. Do you want her to refund the deposit on the original diamond? If so then I would request she does so then buy else where if that is what you want to do or continue with this seller and see what she can find for you of top cut quality as suggested above. Nothing is more sacred as the bond between horse and rider...no other creature can ever become so emotionally close to a human as a horse. When a horse dies, the memory lives on because an enormous part of his owner's heart, soul, very existence dies also...but that can never be laid to rest, it is not meant to be... - Stephanie M Thorn |
| Posted: 5/26/2009 8:10:27 AM | |
| P: 5/26/2009 8:41:50 AM | |
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my_my969 Rough Rock Total Posts: 20 Last Post: 6/25/2009 Member Since: 5/22/2009 |
I send her the Link and asked her to refund or if possible to reduce the price. Actually I really want the money back, but I`m afraid she isn`t gonna do it easily. She told me that this one isn`t better because of the chip finish. What is a chip finish stone? And how can I prove her, that VVS1 chip finish is nothing and the stuff with the angle is very important? She is denying this point and is very certain, that this is the best D. for the best price. At the moment i really regret, buying there.
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| Posted: 5/26/2009 8:41:50 AM | |
| P: 5/26/2009 9:05:49 AM | |
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Lorelei Ideal Rock Total Posts: 34,212 Last Post: 11/22/2009 Member Since: 4/30/2005 |
Date: 5/26/2009 8:41:50 AM Author: my_my969 I send her the Link and asked her to refund or if possible to reduce the price. Actually I really want the money back, but I`m afraid she isn`t gonna do it easily. She told me that this one isn`t better because of the chip finish. What is a chip finish stone? And how can I prove her, that VVS1 chip finish is nothing and the stuff with the angle is very important? She is denying this point and is very certain, that this is the best D. for the best price. At the moment i really regret, buying there. A chip in VVS1 clarity is microscopic and not an issue - but really it isn't up to you to prove this to her or with the pavilion angle! Stand your ground, you have changed your mind and she should give you back your money! I would end any debate with her and not be drawn into any discussion as to why you want your money back, and just repeatedly state you want a refund. I just checked and they do have a return policy and you haven't even received the diamond yet? This thread has some expert opinions on VVS1 chips = not an issue. http://www.pricescope.com/idealbb/view.asp?topicID=19435 Nothing is more sacred as the bond between horse and rider...no other creature can ever become so emotionally close to a human as a horse. When a horse dies, the memory lives on because an enormous part of his owner's heart, soul, very existence dies also...but that can never be laid to rest, it is not meant to be... - Stephanie M Thorn |
| Posted: 5/26/2009 9:05:49 AM | |
| P: 5/26/2009 9:35:16 AM | |
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my_my969 Rough Rock Total Posts: 20 Last Post: 6/25/2009 Member Since: 5/22/2009 |
yes but theres also point 7 , which is told special finger sizes are considered final sales item.... my ring is not engraved but special sized for my finger 7. Custom orders such as engraved or personalized items or special finger sizes are considered final sales items and are excluded from the 7 days return policy. These items will not be accepted for refund, and will be only accepted for exchange in the case of an error from DiamondLand.
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| Posted: 5/26/2009 9:35:16 AM | |
| P: 5/26/2009 9:38:18 AM | |
Ellen Ideal Rock Total Posts: 22,894 Last Post: 11/6/2009 Member Since: 1/13/2006 |
Date: 5/26/2009 9:05:49 AM Lorelei has given you sound adivice, and I totally agree with her. Return the stone and start over, it is your right to do that. Author: Lorelei A chip in VVS1 clarity is microscopic and not an issue - but really it isn't up to you to prove this to her or with the pavilion angle! Stand your ground, you have changed your mind and she should give you back your money! I would end any debate with her and not be drawn into any discussion as to why you want your money back, and just repeatedly state you want a refund. I just checked and they do have a return policy and you haven't even received the diamond yet? This thread has some expert opinions on VVS1 chips = not an issue. http://www.pricescope.com/idealbb/view.asp?topicID=19435  ETA I see the setting may be final, take the setting, leave the stone and get another one. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ |
| Posted: 5/26/2009 9:38:18 AM | |
| P: 5/26/2009 9:39:22 AM | |
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Lorelei Ideal Rock Total Posts: 34,212 Last Post: 11/22/2009 Member Since: 4/30/2005 |
Have you taken possession of the completed ring yet and paid for it in full?
Nothing is more sacred as the bond between horse and rider...no other creature can ever become so emotionally close to a human as a horse. When a horse dies, the memory lives on because an enormous part of his owner's heart, soul, very existence dies also...but that can never be laid to rest, it is not meant to be... - Stephanie M Thorn |
| Posted: 5/26/2009 9:39:22 AM | |
| P: 5/26/2009 9:40:41 AM | |
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Lorelei Ideal Rock Total Posts: 34,212 Last Post: 11/22/2009 Member Since: 4/30/2005 |
Date: 5/26/2009 9:38:18 AM Author: Ellen Date: 5/26/2009 9:05:49 AM Lorelei has given you sound adivice, and I totally agree with her. Return the stone and start over, it is your right to do that. Author: Lorelei A chip in VVS1 clarity is microscopic and not an issue - but really it isn't up to you to prove this to her or with the pavilion angle! Stand your ground, you have changed your mind and she should give you back your money! I would end any debate with her and not be drawn into any discussion as to why you want your money back, and just repeatedly state you want a refund. I just checked and they do have a return policy and you haven't even received the diamond yet? This thread has some expert opinions on VVS1 chips = not an issue. http://www.pricescope.com/idealbb/view.asp?topicID=19435 ETA I see the setting may be final, take the setting, leave the stone and get another one. Ditto, thats another way you could approach this. Nothing is more sacred as the bond between horse and rider...no other creature can ever become so emotionally close to a human as a horse. When a horse dies, the memory lives on because an enormous part of his owner's heart, soul, very existence dies also...but that can never be laid to rest, it is not meant to be... - Stephanie M Thorn |
| Posted: 5/26/2009 9:40:41 AM | |
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Ellen Ideal Rock Total Posts: 22,894 Last Post: 11/6/2009 Member Since: 1/13/2006 |
Date: 5/26/2009 9:39:22 AM Another thought, has the ring even been made/sized yet?
Author: Lorelei Have you taken possession of the completed ring yet and paid for it in full? ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ |
| Posted: 5/26/2009 9:41:29 AM | |
| P: 5/26/2009 9:49:50 AM | |
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Lorelei Ideal Rock Total Posts: 34,212 Last Post: 11/22/2009 Member Since: 4/30/2005 |
Date: 5/26/2009 9:41:29 AM Author: Ellen Date: 5/26/2009 9:39:22 AM Another thought, has the ring even been made/sized yet?Author: Lorelei Have you taken possession of the completed ring yet and paid for it in full? Good point, well worth clarifying. Nothing is more sacred as the bond between horse and rider...no other creature can ever become so emotionally close to a human as a horse. When a horse dies, the memory lives on because an enormous part of his owner's heart, soul, very existence dies also...but that can never be laid to rest, it is not meant to be... - Stephanie M Thorn |
| Posted: 5/26/2009 9:49:50 AM | |
| P: 5/26/2009 5:04:53 PM | |
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my_my969 Rough Rock Total Posts: 20 Last Post: 6/25/2009 Member Since: 5/22/2009 |
ok , i wrote her that i want refund lets see tomorrow how she answer. By the way does anybody know where to get a good D ring in antwerp?
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| Posted: 5/26/2009 5:04:53 PM | |
| P: 5/26/2009 5:36:41 PM | |
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Stone-cold11 Ideal Rock Total Posts: 6,864 Last Post: 11/22/2009 Member Since: 9/9/2008 |
Date: 5/23/2009 3:32:22 PM Author: Stone-cold11 Check out this CraftedbyInfintiy stone. AGS0 0.74c F VS1 at just over 4k USD. http://www.highperformancediamonds.com/index.php?page=view-id-diamond-infinity&id=304 Their main office is in Antwerp and the dealer there is Rob of diamondhouse.http://www.diamondhouse.be/ They can bring this stone or any other stones you find in highperformancediamond in for you to view. CraftedbyInfinity retailers' page. http://www.craftedbyinfinity.com/index.php?pid=62&lang=eng Check them out?
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| Posted: 5/26/2009 5:36:41 PM | |
| P: 5/27/2009 5:24:01 AM | |
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Lorelei Ideal Rock Total Posts: 34,212 Last Post: 11/22/2009 Member Since: 4/30/2005 |
Date: 5/26/2009 5:04:53 PM Author: my_my969 ok , i wrote her that i want refund lets see tomorrow how she answer. By the way does anybody know where to get a good D ring in antwerp? Definitely contact Paul Slegers of Infinity or Rob Van Beurden http://www.diamondhouse.be/ - these chaps are always suggested for Antwerp buyers. Nothing is more sacred as the bond between horse and rider...no other creature can ever become so emotionally close to a human as a horse. When a horse dies, the memory lives on because an enormous part of his owner's heart, soul, very existence dies also...but that can never be laid to rest, it is not meant to be... - Stephanie M Thorn |
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