Poll: Gemesis vs Natural

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On 7/16/2004 4:05:01 PM vtigger86 wrote:

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i voted for the natural. i'm stupid, but not that stupid to pay $7000 for a man-made stone. and i doubt these man-made stones will ever have a price effect on the natural ones. if someone is willing to pay $7000 for a man-made, maybe debeers would even raise the price more. fake is for fake people if you can't afford the real thing, just don't wear it or carry it... like LV handbags and rolex watches. ----------------

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On 7/16/2004 5:29:44 PM chialea wrote:

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On 7/16/2004 4:05:01 PM vtigger86 wrote:

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i voted for the natural. i'm stupid, but not that stupid to pay $7000 for a man-made stone. and i doubt these man-made stones will ever have a price effect on the natural ones. if someone is willing to pay $7000 for a man-made, maybe debeers would even raise the price more. fake is for fake people if you can't afford the real thing, just don't wear it or carry it... like LV handbags and rolex watches. ----------------

hmmm... is it Friday already?

interestingly enough, rolex watches are handmade, and you don't seem to think paying for those is stupid.

cutting diamonds is done by humans as well. does this detract from their value to you?

I consider chemically and physically identical items to be... well... identical. I don't care about the price. The reason why I was drawn to cultured stones was partially ethical and partially an affinity for interesting technology. Does this make me stupid?

And, hey, I'm chemically and physically identical to a human, btw, so watch it with the 'fake' comments.----------------

it is always harder to find a "mind clean" stone than a eye clean stone.

Rich, Independent GG Appraiser
Sarasota Gemological Laboratory

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On 7/16/2004 7:41:41 PM vtigger86 wrote:

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rich,

yeah, you're right. sometimes i just say things without using my little pea brain. but,at least i'm honest, i don't beat around the bush, i just say what's on my mind, at the time .----------------

It doesn't mean that you're incapable of saying what's on your mind without being offensive about it. If you are, I suggest that it's a skill that has many applications. It's lubrication of the mind, as it were.

I simply prefer lab-made. The kind dug out of the ground are, to me, second best to an eqivalent lab-made diamond. I don't think this makes me stupid or impractical. It's not a fake, it's a diamond. It's a diamond that was created through some amazing processes that I find quite interesting, which gives it that extra cachet, the same way some people would like a stone from a celebrety or royalty. I particularly also like that it doesn't pass through DeBeer's hands, as I think that their power is not good for consumers in general, and I also wish to encourage responsible mining practices, which include mining as little as possible.

I have refrained from calling you names over things you have said on the board which I disagreed with, and things you've done that I strongly disagreed with. Perhaps you might extend both me and the other users of this board the same curtesey?

it is always harder to find a "mind clean" stone than a eye clean stone.

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On 7/16/2004 10:58:45 PM starfire wrote:

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Sorry to barge in like this, but I have to agree with Richard.  You seem to have some deep-seated insecurity complex that compels you to attach others personally.  Seek help!

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Stephen,

I'm not attacking you nor will I get into an argument with you about this, but I will point out that you just made a post in another thread that could be intrepreted as calling a lot of people unethical and thieves

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On 7/16/2004 11:11:28 PM noobie wrote:

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Stephen,

I'm not attacking you nor will I get into an argument with you about this, but I will point out that you just made a post in another thread that could be intrepreted as calling a lot of people unethical and thieves

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Charlotte Atelier
Singapore

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On 7/16/2004 11:16:07 PM starfire wrote:

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Hi Noobie,

Unless you do not believe in taking a moral and ethical stand?


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On 7/16/2004 11:22:46 PM noobie wrote:

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How does what I just wrote to you equate to me not believing in taking a moral and ethical stand?
I was just trying to politely point out an intreptation. Why do have to question my ethics? But like I said I'm not going to argue with you on this----------------

Charlotte Atelier
Singapore

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On 7/16/2004 11:27:26 PM starfire wrote:

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 let's keep it on friendly basis ok?

Best regards


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On 10/27/2004 3:53:21 PM lclaxton wrote:

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Thank goodness someone like you is out there! [...] can't find one anywhere!
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Ana "The greatest experts are only as good as the sum total of what they have seen." [Souren Melikian]

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"Insanity: doing the same thing over and over again and expecting different results."

-Albert Einstein

Rich, Independent GG Appraiser
Sarasota Gemological Laboratory