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How does my jeweler get my ring so clean?!?

P: 4/19/2009 1:11:46 AM
EHR2009 Cut Rock Total Posts: 270 Last Post: 11/23/2009 Member Since: 4/18/2009	Does anyone have any suggestions about ring cleaning? I am pretty good about cleaning my ring (I do it every few days), and I have been using an ultrasonic that I purchased for about $20 with jewelry cleaning solution, but I took my ring to my jeweler to get the platinum polished, and the diamond came back looking better than it has ever looked! Do you think a higher priced ultrasonic will make a big difference? Any suggestions on good cleaners or techniques? I try not to let it get too dirty, but I know that it is difficult to remove dirt from around the prongs.
Posted: 4/19/2009 1:11:46 AM

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P: 4/19/2009 5:02:24 AM
Laura27 Rough Rock Total Posts: 64 Last Post: 9/15/2009 Member Since: 4/18/2009	I'm pretty sure that they steam clean them. At least that's what they did with my right hand ring that I had sized the other day. For tips on cleaning at home I've heard that vodka works really well. I've also heard of people using toothpaste and a soft toothbrush to clean it. You could also let it soak in a glass of hot water and then clean it with either the vodka or toothpaste.
Posted: 4/19/2009 5:02:24 AM

P: 4/19/2009 5:43:41 AM
Lorelei Ideal Rock Total Posts: 34,232 Last Post: 11/24/2009 Member Since: 4/30/2005	You can try sudsy ammonia on plat, it is not suitable for white gold. Soak the ring in a mix of hot water 2 thirds, and ammonia 1 third. Leave for about half an hour, scrub with a soft brush, rinse and dry. Nothing is more sacred as the bond between horse and rider...no other creature can ever become so emotionally close to a human as a horse. When a horse dies, the memory lives on because an enormous part of his owner's heart, soul, very existence dies also...but that can never be laid to rest, it is not meant to be... - Stephanie M Thorn
Posted: 4/19/2009 5:43:41 AM

P: 4/19/2009 5:52:45 AM
futuremrsT Rough Rock Total Posts: 55 Last Post: 5/8/2009 Member Since: 4/14/2009	I rinse in warm water and then scrub use a toothbrush and handsoap, and then rinse under warm water again. It always comes out sparkly. I haven't gotten my ering professionally cleaned yet, but I believe my jewlers also steam cleaned my right hand ring.
Posted: 4/19/2009 5:52:45 AM

P: 4/19/2009 7:16:54 AM
Ellen Ideal Rock Total Posts: 22,894 Last Post: 11/6/2009 Member Since: 1/13/2006	Date: 4/19/2009 1:11:46 AM Author:EHR2009 Does anyone have any suggestions about ring cleaning? I am pretty good about cleaning my ring (I do it every few days), and I have been using an ultrasonic that I purchased for about $20 with jewelry cleaning solution, but I took my ring to my jeweler to get the platinum polished, and the diamond came back looking better than it has ever looked! Do you think a higher priced ultrasonic will make a big difference? Any suggestions on good cleaners or techniques? I try not to let it get too dirty, but I know that it is difficult to remove dirt from around the prongs. Yes. I have one made by Crest. I feel it's definitely worth the money to get a high quality cleaner. I went through two cheapies before biting the bullet and getting a good one. Worth every penny. However, there are other things you can do to help. I clean mine every single day, by hand most days, then use the US once or twice a week. I also don't cook, shower, do dishes or clean with it on. Between all this, it stays much cleaner to begin with. I don't really notice a difference with mine after a prong check and cleaning from the jeweler. I ditto the Ammonia and hot water, that's the absolute best. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ "It is also important for the State to inculcate in its subjects an aversion to any 'conspiracy theory of history' for a search for 'conspiracies' means a search for motives and an attribution of responsibility for historical misdeeds." -Murray N. Rothbard, in The Anatomy of the State John Swinton [1829-1901] Chief Editorial Writer of the New York Times (Considered "the Dean of his Profession" by his peers), when asked to toast an 'Independent Press' in a gathering at the National Press Club, circa 1880 "There is no such thing in America as an independent press unless it is in the country towns. You know it, and I know it. There is not one of you who dare express an honest opinion. If you express it you know beforehand that it would never appear in print. I am paid... for keeping my honest opinions out of the paper I am connected with. Others of you are paid similar salaries for doing similar things.... The business of the New York journalist is to distort the truth, to lie outright, to pervert, to vilify, to fawn at the feet of Mammon, and sell his country and race for his daily bread, or for what is about the same thing, his salary. You know this, and I know it and what foolery to be toasting an 'independent press.' We are tools, and the vassals of rich men behind the scenes. We are jumping-jacks. They pull the strings and we dance. Our time, our talents, our lives, our possibilities, all are the property of other men. We are intellectual prostitutes."
Posted: 4/19/2009 7:16:54 AM

P: 4/19/2009 11:27:44 AM
fabienne Rough Rock Total Posts: 79 Last Post: 6/14/2009 Member Since: 3/15/2009	Does polishing a ring make it shiny? I wonder if any of the shine is contributing to the sparkliness? I don't have a US yet...but I'm never super impressed with the way Zales cleans my rings...the one near my house anyway...... ETA--I just reread your post and I also think a more expensive US would clean it better.... A bit off topic .....You know what I hate the most about having white gold? Not being able to use ammonia! Sometimes I want to get a platinum setting just so I can clean it with ammonia. This thread just makes me want to clean my rings! Gotta go!
Posted: 4/19/2009 11:27:44 AM

P: 4/19/2009 11:32:11 AM
LaraOnline Ideal Rock Total Posts: 2,039 Last Post: 9/1/2009 Member Since: 2/25/2008	What do you put in an ultrasonic if you don't use an ammonia-based cleaner in a solution with warm water? And then a plank in reason broke... Emily Dickinson
Posted: 4/19/2009 11:32:11 AM

P: 4/19/2009 11:34:03 AM
EHR2009 Cut Rock Total Posts: 270 Last Post: 11/23/2009 Member Since: 4/18/2009	Thanks everyone! I will try the ammonia! I've never heard of that before. I love this site!
Posted: 4/19/2009 11:34:03 AM

P: 4/19/2009 11:38:29 AM
Ellen Ideal Rock Total Posts: 22,894 Last Post: 11/6/2009 Member Since: 1/13/2006	I have a WG setting, and I use Dawn and hot water for hand cleaning. For US cleaning I use water and Mr. Clean, like 4 parts water to 1 Mr. C. For some reason, if I use Dawn in the US, I get this white coating on everything. And once in a while, I'll soak my ring in hot water to loosen things up, and then dip the cleaning brush in ammonia water and just scrub the diamond. I don't think that teeny bit of contact for a brief period is hurting it. And I don't do this very often. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ "It is also important for the State to inculcate in its subjects an aversion to any 'conspiracy theory of history' for a search for 'conspiracies' means a search for motives and an attribution of responsibility for historical misdeeds." -Murray N. Rothbard, in The Anatomy of the State John Swinton [1829-1901] Chief Editorial Writer of the New York Times (Considered "the Dean of his Profession" by his peers), when asked to toast an 'Independent Press' in a gathering at the National Press Club, circa 1880 "There is no such thing in America as an independent press unless it is in the country towns. You know it, and I know it. There is not one of you who dare express an honest opinion. If you express it you know beforehand that it would never appear in print. I am paid... for keeping my honest opinions out of the paper I am connected with. Others of you are paid similar salaries for doing similar things.... The business of the New York journalist is to distort the truth, to lie outright, to pervert, to vilify, to fawn at the feet of Mammon, and sell his country and race for his daily bread, or for what is about the same thing, his salary. You know this, and I know it and what foolery to be toasting an 'independent press.' We are tools, and the vassals of rich men behind the scenes. We are jumping-jacks. They pull the strings and we dance. Our time, our talents, our lives, our possibilities, all are the property of other men. We are intellectual prostitutes."
Posted: 4/19/2009 11:38:29 AM

P: 4/19/2009 12:56:05 PM
EHR2009 Cut Rock Total Posts: 270 Last Post: 11/23/2009 Member Since: 4/18/2009	Sometimes I will swipe my diamond with Windex (I heard that is what Tiffany's uses), and it makes it very sparkly. It doesn't really clean around the prongs, but it is a nice little finishing touch.
Posted: 4/19/2009 12:56:05 PM

P: 4/19/2009 1:06:41 PM
Demon Rough Rock Total Posts: 64 Last Post: 11/20/2009 Member Since: 2/16/2009	Ammonia not being suitable for white gold is because of the rhodium plating, right? I mean, there's nothing in the makeup of white gold that the ammonia will hurt, it's just the plating? So it would be fine on an unplated/plating worn off, ring?
Posted: 4/19/2009 1:06:41 PM

P: 4/19/2009 1:22:20 PM
mscushion Ideal Rock Total Posts: 2,166 Last Post: 11/16/2009 Member Since: 11/15/2008	Date: 4/19/2009 11:32:11 AM Author: LaraOnline What do you put in an ultrasonic if you don't use an ammonia-based cleaner in a solution with warm water? I put in very hot water and a couple drops of Dawn and that works fine for me. I have also added in a few drops of Windex now and then, even though I know I'm not supposed to use it on white gold, but I don't do that every time I use the Ultrasonic, and so far, so good.
Posted: 4/19/2009 1:22:20 PM

P: 4/19/2009 1:23:35 PM
EHR2009 Cut Rock Total Posts: 270 Last Post: 11/23/2009 Member Since: 4/18/2009	Demon, I am interested in what unplated white gold looks like? Do you have any pics? I had always thought that white gold was really just yellow gold with plating on it, but is it white to begin with?
Posted: 4/19/2009 1:23:35 PM

P: 4/19/2009 1:36:05 PM
Demon Rough Rock Total Posts: 64 Last Post: 11/20/2009 Member Since: 2/16/2009	Date: 4/19/2009 1:23:35 PM Author: EHR2009 Demon, I am interested in what unplated white gold looks like? Do you have any pics? I had always thought that white gold was really just yellow gold with plating on it, but is it white to begin with? No pics handy (hopefully someone will have some?), but white gold is more or less 'white' depending on what alloys the gold is mixed with...... I have one white gold that the rhodium has worn off on and it is a somewhat greyish white, which I like just fine and won't replate. Another needs to be replated, as it has a yellowish tint to the white gold.
Posted: 4/19/2009 1:36:05 PM

P: 4/19/2009 1:38:31 PM
Skippy123 Ideal Rock Total Posts: 19,828 Last Post: 11/23/2009 Member Since: 11/24/2006	Date: 4/19/2009 1:06:41 PM Author: Demon Ammonia not being suitable for white gold is because of the rhodium plating, right? I mean, there's nothing in the makeup of white gold that the ammonia will hurt, it's just the plating? So it would be fine on an unplated/plating worn off, ring? I use Mr. Clean now and it works great for white gold. Skippy "The only things that stand between a person and what they want in life are the will to try it, and the faith to believe it's possible" Rich Devos
Posted: 4/19/2009 1:38:31 PM

P: 4/19/2009 2:41:39 PM
fabienne Rough Rock Total Posts: 79 Last Post: 6/14/2009 Member Since: 3/15/2009	Does Mr. Clean have ammonia in it? And what formula of Mr. Clean are you using? I have Mr. Clean at home and at work but they are both the ones with Febreze in it. Does anyone use this formulation? Ellen...thanks so much for sharing that information about how you clean your diamonds....I will try the brushed dipped in ammonia soon. I bought a jug of ammonia before I knew it wasn't good for WG....I guess I need to find some other uses for that ammonia.
Posted: 4/19/2009 2:41:39 PM

P: 4/19/2009 4:47:32 PM
Ellen Ideal Rock Total Posts: 22,894 Last Post: 11/6/2009 Member Since: 1/13/2006	Date: 4/19/2009 1:06:41 PM Author: Demon Ammonia not being suitable for white gold is because of the rhodium plating, right? I mean, there's nothing in the makeup of white gold that the ammonia will hurt, it's just the plating? So it would be fine on an unplated/plating worn off, ring? No, it is not good for the gold either. fabienne, no, Mr. Clean doesn't have ammonia in it. I have been using the citrus orange kind, they don't seem to make a "normal" kind anymore, or at least I can't find one around here. But I've been using it for months with no problem. I doubt the febreeze would hurt, that's just scent stuff. As for the ammonia, it's good to clean with. i.e. floors, cabinets, walls, garbage/trash cans. Just follow the directions. And you're welcome! ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ "It is also important for the State to inculcate in its subjects an aversion to any 'conspiracy theory of history' for a search for 'conspiracies' means a search for motives and an attribution of responsibility for historical misdeeds." -Murray N. Rothbard, in The Anatomy of the State John Swinton [1829-1901] Chief Editorial Writer of the New York Times (Considered "the Dean of his Profession" by his peers), when asked to toast an 'Independent Press' in a gathering at the National Press Club, circa 1880 "There is no such thing in America as an independent press unless it is in the country towns. You know it, and I know it. There is not one of you who dare express an honest opinion. If you express it you know beforehand that it would never appear in print. I am paid... for keeping my honest opinions out of the paper I am connected with. Others of you are paid similar salaries for doing similar things.... The business of the New York journalist is to distort the truth, to lie outright, to pervert, to vilify, to fawn at the feet of Mammon, and sell his country and race for his daily bread, or for what is about the same thing, his salary. You know this, and I know it and what foolery to be toasting an 'independent press.' We are tools, and the vassals of rich men behind the scenes. We are jumping-jacks. They pull the strings and we dance. Our time, our talents, our lives, our possibilities, all are the property of other men. We are intellectual prostitutes."
Posted: 4/19/2009 4:47:32 PM

P: 4/19/2009 7:27:42 PM
Demon Rough Rock Total Posts: 64 Last Post: 11/20/2009 Member Since: 2/16/2009	Date: 4/19/2009 4:47:32 PM Author: Ellen Date: 4/19/2009 1:06:41 PM Author: Demon Ammonia not being suitable for white gold is because of the rhodium plating, right? I mean, there's nothing in the makeup of white gold that the ammonia will hurt, it's just the plating? So it would be fine on an unplated/plating worn off, ring? No, it is not good for the gold either. fabienne, no, Mr. Clean doesn't have ammonia in it. I have been using the citrus orange kind, they don't seem to make a 'normal' kind anymore, or at least I can't find one around here. But I've been using it for months with no problem. I doubt the febreeze would hurt, that's just scent stuff. As for the ammonia, it's good to clean with. i.e. floors, cabinets, walls, garbage/trash cans. Just follow the directions. And you're welcome! Thanks! I guess what I'm trying to figure out, is ammonia bad for all gold, or is it that there's something in the white gold that it's bad for?
Posted: 4/19/2009 7:27:42 PM

P: 4/19/2009 7:41:55 PM
beau13 Ideal Rock Total Posts: 2,173 Last Post: 8/7/2009 Member Since: 7/6/2007	I've got a steamer similar to the one the jeweler uses. It makes a world of difference!! Steaming a diamond over a pot of boiling water just isn't the same! You need the high pressure of the steamer to really remove the build up on the diamond. I also use Mr.Clean (orange) every day, but then steam it once every 10 days or so!
Posted: 4/19/2009 7:41:55 PM

P: 4/19/2009 9:30:21 PM
Lynn B Ideal Rock Total Posts: 5,143 Last Post: 11/23/2009 Member Since: 5/9/2004	I have an US but I rarely use it because my rings are pave and I'm afraid of losing a melee stone. HOWEVER, I have just recently found a trick that makes me feel quite smug!!! I use our electric toothbrush on just the head of my e-ring and it works GREAT! (YES, I have a head dedicated soley for the ring! ) It's actually downright amazing how much cleaner that gets my ring than scrubbing it (manually) with the baby toothbrush I was using. And THAT'S my story and I'm sticking to it!
Posted: 4/19/2009 9:30:21 PM

P: 4/19/2009 9:39:21 PM
EHR2009 Cut Rock Total Posts: 270 Last Post: 11/23/2009 Member Since: 4/18/2009	Beau13--how much does one of those steamers set you back? Do you have a good brand to recommend? Thanks for the tips!
Posted: 4/19/2009 9:39:21 PM

P: 4/19/2009 10:25:03 PM
LaraOnline Ideal Rock Total Posts: 2,039 Last Post: 9/1/2009 Member Since: 2/25/2008	I'm scared to use a toothbrush because I broke a prong off a ring once... And then a plank in reason broke... Emily Dickinson
Posted: 4/19/2009 10:25:03 PM

P: 4/19/2009 11:03:27 PM
beach Ideal Rock Total Posts: 690 Last Post: 7/5/2009 Member Since: 12/16/2007	I use a Jewel Jet steam cleaner and it works just as well as the one at the jeweler IMO. They cost around 100 but I have seen them for less on ebay.
Posted: 4/19/2009 11:03:27 PM

P: 4/19/2009 11:34:46 PM
Venice Cut Rock Total Posts: 232 Last Post: 11/22/2009 Member Since: 9/20/2007	Date: 4/19/2009 9:30:21 PM Author: Lynn B I have an US but I rarely use it because my rings are pave and I'm afraid of losing a melee stone. HOWEVER, I have just recently found a trick that makes me feel quite smug!!! I use our electric toothbrush on just the head of my e-ring and it works GREAT! (YES, I have a head dedicated soley for the ring! ) It's actually downright amazing how much cleaner that gets my ring than scrubbing it (manually) with the baby toothbrush I was using. I use the same method with fantastic results! I have an extra brush head that I keep inside the charger unit that I use just for my rings. I use it after I use the SI ultrasonic and after I just soak it for a while in the jar cleaner. I dip the brush in whatever solution that was used and scrub gently around the prongs and diamond(s), rinse and dry with a clean lint-free cloth. It really makes a huge difference in my rings! Happy cleaning! Venice
Posted: 4/19/2009 11:34:46 PM

P: 4/20/2009 2:37:14 AM
CravingDiamonds Cut Rock Total Posts: 270 Last Post: 7/6/2009 Member Since: 3/20/2009	Almost all of my rings are white gold, what solution would you recommend that is best for white gold then?
Posted: 4/20/2009 2:37:14 AM

P: 4/20/2009 2:43:19 AM
Dancing Fire Ideal Rock Total Posts: 10,224 Last Post: 11/23/2009 Member Since: 4/3/2004	i wonder about this no ammonia on WG, truth or myth? been using ammonia on my wife's 14K wg ring for many yrs now and still looks white to me except on the bottom part of the ring where it just starting to turn slight yellow which is normal after all these yrs. it is always harder to find a "mind clean" stone than a eye clean stone.
Posted: 4/20/2009 2:43:19 AM

P: 4/20/2009 7:34:41 AM
Ellen Ideal Rock Total Posts: 22,894 Last Post: 11/6/2009 Member Since: 1/13/2006	Date: 4/19/2009 7:27:42 PM Author: Demon Date: 4/19/2009 4:47:32 PM Author: Ellen Date: 4/19/2009 1:06:41 PM Author: Demon Ammonia not being suitable for white gold is because of the rhodium plating, right? I mean, there's nothing in the makeup of white gold that the ammonia will hurt, it's just the plating? So it would be fine on an unplated/plating worn off, ring? No, it is not good for the gold either. fabienne, no, Mr. Clean doesn't have ammonia in it. I have been using the citrus orange kind, they don't seem to make a 'normal' kind anymore, or at least I can't find one around here. But I've been using it for months with no problem. I doubt the febreeze would hurt, that's just scent stuff. As for the ammonia, it's good to clean with. i.e. floors, cabinets, walls, garbage/trash cans. Just follow the directions. And you're welcome! Thanks! I guess what I'm trying to figure out, is ammonia bad for all gold, or is it that there's something in the white gold that it's bad for? I honestly only recall hearing about WG. And this was from experts here on the board. I just went and searched the question: Is it safe to clean white gold jewelry with ammonia? I couldn't find a link that says it's bad (they basically all recommended it), so I honestly don't know why we've heard that here and nowhere else. I could definitely see some (links) saying it's ok because there are many jewelers that don't know a lot, but all of them (that I clicked)? Who knows! DF, is your wifes jewlery Rhodium plated? If so, do you not ever get it replated? ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ "It is also important for the State to inculcate in its subjects an aversion to any 'conspiracy theory of history' for a search for 'conspiracies' means a search for motives and an attribution of responsibility for historical misdeeds." -Murray N. Rothbard, in The Anatomy of the State John Swinton [1829-1901] Chief Editorial Writer of the New York Times (Considered "the Dean of his Profession" by his peers), when asked to toast an 'Independent Press' in a gathering at the National Press Club, circa 1880 "There is no such thing in America as an independent press unless it is in the country towns. You know it, and I know it. There is not one of you who dare express an honest opinion. If you express it you know beforehand that it would never appear in print. I am paid... for keeping my honest opinions out of the paper I am connected with. Others of you are paid similar salaries for doing similar things.... The business of the New York journalist is to distort the truth, to lie outright, to pervert, to vilify, to fawn at the feet of Mammon, and sell his country and race for his daily bread, or for what is about the same thing, his salary. You know this, and I know it and what foolery to be toasting an 'independent press.' We are tools, and the vassals of rich men behind the scenes. We are jumping-jacks. They pull the strings and we dance. Our time, our talents, our lives, our possibilities, all are the property of other men. We are intellectual prostitutes."
Posted: 4/20/2009 7:34:41 AM

P: 4/20/2009 7:54:19 AM
reader Cut Rock Total Posts: 494 Last Post: 9/27/2009 Member Since: 4/28/2006	http://www.pricescope.com/idealbb/view.asp?topicID=67468 Is what I have found so far. My question is this: If your steamer leaves a mineral deposit on your stones, what is the best way to remove that? Also, how to clean the mineral deposits from the steamer?
Posted: 4/20/2009 7:54:19 AM

P: 4/20/2009 8:58:54 AM
vespergirl Ideal Rock Total Posts: 3,924 Last Post: 11/23/2009 Member Since: 1/29/2007	Clean with jewelry cleaner & toothbrush, then ultrasonic, then Jewel Jet (steam cleaner). I love my Jewel Jet - I always get compliments on my ring after I steam clean it.
Posted: 4/20/2009 8:58:54 AM

P: 4/20/2009 10:51:35 AM
Demon Rough Rock Total Posts: 64 Last Post: 11/20/2009 Member Since: 2/16/2009	Date: 4/20/2009 7:34:41 AM Author: Ellen Date: 4/19/2009 7:27:42 PM Author: Demon Date: 4/19/2009 4:47:32 PM Author: Ellen Date: 4/19/2009 1:06:41 PM Author: Demon Ammonia not being suitable for white gold is because of the rhodium plating, right? I mean, there's nothing in the makeup of white gold that the ammonia will hurt, it's just the plating? So it would be fine on an unplated/plating worn off, ring? No, it is not good for the gold either. fabienne, no, Mr. Clean doesn't have ammonia in it. I have been using the citrus orange kind, they don't seem to make a 'normal' kind anymore, or at least I can't find one around here. But I've been using it for months with no problem. I doubt the febreeze would hurt, that's just scent stuff. As for the ammonia, it's good to clean with. i.e. floors, cabinets, walls, garbage/trash cans. Just follow the directions. And you're welcome! Thanks! I guess what I'm trying to figure out, is ammonia bad for all gold, or is it that there's something in the white gold that it's bad for? I honestly only recall hearing about WG. And this was from experts here on the board. I just went and searched the question: Is it safe to clean white gold jewelry with ammonia? I couldn't find a link that says it's bad (they basically all recommended it), so I honestly don't know why we've heard that here and nowhere else. I could definitely see some (links) saying it's ok because there are many jewelers that don't know a lot, but all of them (that I clicked)? Who knows! DF, is your wifes jewlery Rhodium plated? If so, do you not ever get it replated? It's maddening! I guess I'll continue as I'm doing, which is not soaking my rings in ammonia or using it in the ultrasonic, but just a quick scrub followed by a good rinse. It'd be nice to have a difinitive answer though!
Posted: 4/20/2009 10:51:35 AM

P: 4/20/2009 10:52:20 AM
Demon Rough Rock Total Posts: 64 Last Post: 11/20/2009 Member Since: 2/16/2009	I think I'll try that in the ultrasonice. Thanks Skippy!
Posted: 4/20/2009 10:52:20 AM

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