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Arctic Ideal?

P: 4/18/2009 7:00:06 PM
AnaClare Rough Rock Total Posts: 87 Last Post: 7/28/2009 Member Since: 2/21/2006	I went to Bailey Banks and Biddle today to do a little eye research. I have been reading through the forums trying to decide what is the best bang for my buck... I asked to view an ideal cut diamond at BBB and they said they had arctic ideals. I asked what the difference is and the saleslady said that arctic ideals are diamonds that come from cold areas and are better than ideal diamonds. Has anyone heard of this? Am I going crazy thinking it's just a sales ploy? Ana
Posted: 4/18/2009 7:00:06 PM

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P: 4/18/2009 7:10:57 PM
MissGotRocks Ideal Rock Total Posts: 2,590 Last Post: 11/22/2009 Member Since: 6/23/2005	It's just a sales ploy. Their Artic stones are just their version of ideal cut stones. No better and maybe worse than you can find with some of the online vendors here. Cold areas? You've got to be kidding me!
Posted: 4/18/2009 7:10:57 PM

P: 4/18/2009 7:14:42 PM
Stone-cold11 Ideal Rock Total Posts: 6,867 Last Post: 11/22/2009 Member Since: 9/9/2008	Agreed, sales ploy. Cold region... don't they heat up their workshop or are they trying to save even that bit of $$?
Posted: 4/18/2009 7:14:42 PM

P: 4/18/2009 7:19:29 PM
moonlite Rough Rock Total Posts: 17 Last Post: 4/19/2009 Member Since: 4/13/2009	I guess what he meant is our Canada's Arctic diamond from mines in the Northwest Territories. And the last time i checked they are more expensive than diamonds we can buy from the States ( don't know y though)
Posted: 4/18/2009 7:19:29 PM

P: 4/18/2009 9:56:08 PM
AnaClare Rough Rock Total Posts: 87 Last Post: 7/28/2009 Member Since: 2/21/2006	Thanks for the information! I thought it was a hoax. I appreciate the confirmation.
Posted: 4/18/2009 9:56:08 PM

P: 4/18/2009 11:16:09 PM
Diamond Explorer Cut Rock Total Posts: 265 Last Post: 11/20/2009 Member Since: 9/7/2008	Date: 4/18/2009 9:56:08 PM Author: AnaClare Thanks for the information! I thought it was a hoax. I appreciate the confirmation. I wouldn't call it a hoax, because they are not making claims that are not fulfilled with the diamond. Is the diamond from Canada? Yes. Is it "ideal" by many definitions? Yes, I think those particular stones are in fact graded by AGS as Ideal, Its been a while since i worked for them, but I seem to remember that. Don't be too hard on the old guy. The diamonds are probably not the best value, but they are labeled properly, just sold poorly. I heard they are closing half their stores, maybe you could pick one up at a discount. Jonathan Klemt G.D. (GIA) Founder & Designer Well Adorned www.WellAdorned.com
Posted: 4/18/2009 11:16:09 PM

P: 4/19/2009 12:21:38 AM
AnaClare Rough Rock Total Posts: 87 Last Post: 7/28/2009 Member Since: 2/21/2006	Thanks Jonathan for the correction. I was just surprised to hear that the saleslady said the diamonds were nicer as some with the same stats just because it was from a cold region. They were in fact liquidating their merchandise because the store may or may not close.
Posted: 4/19/2009 12:21:38 AM

P: 4/19/2009 12:51:49 AM
Diamond Explorer Cut Rock Total Posts: 265 Last Post: 11/20/2009 Member Since: 9/7/2008	Date: 4/19/2009 12:21:38 AM Author: AnaClare Thanks Jonathan for the correction. I was just surprised to hear that the saleslady said the diamonds were nicer as some with the same stats just because it was from a cold region. They were in fact liquidating their merchandise because the store may or may not close. Ha, Yeah I don't think the coldness has anything to do with the diamond's quality. That's just downright silly. Jonathan Klemt G.D. (GIA) Founder & Designer Well Adorned www.WellAdorned.com
Posted: 4/19/2009 12:51:49 AM

P: 4/19/2009 2:22:06 AM
iraweissman Rough Rock Total Posts: 70 Last Post: 11/16/2009 Member Since: 4/16/2009	Also, keep in mind that BBB is a division of Zales, and therefore survives (barely) on good old fashioned jewelry business markups of 50%-100%. You're better off buying from an online vendor that lists diamonds not in their inventory. Markups with these online vendors typically run between 15 and 20%. Ira Weissman Sightholder Veteran Truth About Diamonds
Posted: 4/19/2009 2:22:06 AM

P: 5/5/2009 4:49:56 PM
KP_Gemologist Rough Rock Total Posts: 1 Last Post: 5/5/2009 Member Since: 5/5/2009	The advantage of an Artic Ideal (ideal cut stone from Canada) is that you have the guarantee that your stone is not a "blood diamond", and that appropriate labor practices were used in mining it. The labor treatment at most mines in Africa is atrocious. This is why the Canadian stones are more expensive. The cold temp has nothing to do with the diamonds, but the Canadian mine is know to have a very good average of good quality diamonds. PS: BBB is no longer a division of Zales Corp, it was purchased by Finlay.
Posted: 5/5/2009 4:49:56 PM

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