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| P: 4/7/2009 4:27:09 PM | |
cherrick02 Rough Rock Total Posts: 44 Last Post: 4/16/2009 Member Since: 4/2/2009 |
Hey Everyone, Looking for everyone's thoughts on this diamond. WF has a diamond on hold until the end of the business day and need some input. WF has not looked at the diamond yet, but did say that it was supposedly eye clean. Seems like a really good price so I don't want to pass it up if it is good. I have attached the AGS Cert., however do not have any images. 1.84TCW AGS Excellent 1 7.78-7.82X4.86 G Si2 polish:excellent symmetry:excellent |
| Posted: 4/7/2009 4:27:09 PM | |
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| P: 4/7/2009 4:38:39 PM | |
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Lorelei Ideal Rock Total Posts: 34,273 Last Post: 11/25/2009 Member Since: 4/30/2005 |
Sorry the link for the report doesn't work?
![]() Nothing is more sacred as the bond between horse and rider...no other creature can ever become so emotionally close to a human as a horse. When a horse dies, the memory lives on because an enormous part of his owner's heart, soul, very existence dies also...but that can never be laid to rest, it is not meant to be... - Stephanie M Thorn |
| Posted: 4/7/2009 4:38:39 PM | |
| P: 4/7/2009 4:52:54 PM | |
cherrick02 Rough Rock Total Posts: 44 Last Post: 4/16/2009 Member Since: 4/2/2009 |
Let's see if this works....![]()
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| Posted: 4/7/2009 4:52:54 PM | |
| P: 4/7/2009 5:00:44 PM | |
cherrick02 Rough Rock Total Posts: 44 Last Post: 4/16/2009 Member Since: 4/2/2009 |
Here are the spec's in case you can't see, I seem to be having issues with attaching..... Depth 62.3% Table 56.1% Thin to Slightly Thick Faceted Flour:Negligible Cutlet 0.3%
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| Posted: 4/7/2009 5:00:44 PM | |
| P: 4/7/2009 5:16:16 PM | |
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Ellen Ideal Rock Total Posts: 22,894 Last Post: 11/6/2009 Member Since: 1/13/2006 |
Can you list the crown and pavilion angles please?
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| Posted: 4/7/2009 5:16:16 PM | |
| P: 4/7/2009 5:20:25 PM | |
cherrick02 Rough Rock Total Posts: 44 Last Post: 4/16/2009 Member Since: 4/2/2009 |
Sure! Crown 34.9 Pavilion 40.7 Thought I had posted this, but just realized I totally forgot to!
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| Posted: 4/7/2009 5:20:25 PM | |
| P: 4/7/2009 5:23:02 PM | |
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Ellen Ideal Rock Total Posts: 22,894 Last Post: 11/6/2009 Member Since: 1/13/2006 |
Date: 4/7/2009 5:20:25 PM That's ok! Looks good so far, but I'm wondering why it got a 1, and not 0. Do you know?
Author: cherrick02 Sure! Crown 34.9 Pavilion 40.7 Thought I had posted this, but just realized I totally forgot to! ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ |
| Posted: 4/7/2009 5:23:02 PM | |
| P: 4/7/2009 5:30:56 PM | |
cherrick02 Rough Rock Total Posts: 44 Last Post: 4/16/2009 Member Since: 4/2/2009 |
I guess I'm not sure what you are referring to when you say a 1 and not a 0 are you talking about the cut grade or something else? I just asked them to bring it in to see if it is really eye clean or not. So it should be here in a day or so and hopefully I can post some images on here that might help.
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| Posted: 4/7/2009 5:30:56 PM | |
| P: 4/7/2009 5:31:01 PM | |
Stone-cold11 Ideal Rock Total Posts: 6,931 Last Post: 11/25/2009 Member Since: 9/9/2008 |
Ya, everything looks good to me by the numbers. Weird, maybe it is the new Gold standard.
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| Posted: 4/7/2009 5:31:01 PM | |
| P: 4/7/2009 5:49:51 PM | |
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KtIceRN Ideal Rock Total Posts: 1,170 Last Post: 11/24/2009 Member Since: 6/28/2006 |
Date: 4/7/2009 5:23:02 PM Looks like excellent for polish and sym that's why it is a 1. (think that is correct, if I am wrong forgive me)Author: Ellen Date: 4/7/2009 5:20:25 PM That's ok! Looks good so far, but I'm wondering why it got a 1, and not 0. Do you know? Author: cherrick02 Sure! Crown 34.9 Pavilion 40.7 Thought I had posted this, but just realized I totally forgot to! Cherrick02 - seems like it might be a great stone. Can't wait to see all the pics!!!! KT |
| Posted: 4/7/2009 5:49:51 PM | |
| P: 4/7/2009 5:55:26 PM | |
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Ellen Ideal Rock Total Posts: 22,894 Last Post: 11/6/2009 Member Since: 1/13/2006 |
Date: 4/7/2009 5:49:51 PM I think you're right Kt. After squinting realllly hard, it does say that. Author: KtIceRN Date: 4/7/2009 5:23:02 PM Looks like excellent for polish and sym that's why it is a 1. (think that is correct, if I am wrong forgive me)Author: Ellen Date: 4/7/2009 5:20:25 PM That's ok! Looks good so far, but I'm wondering why it got a 1, and not 0. Do you know? Author: cherrick02 Sure! Crown 34.9 Pavilion 40.7 Thought I had posted this, but just realized I totally forgot to! Cherrick02 - seems like it might be a great stone. Can't wait to see all the pics!!!! ![]() Cherrick, the highest grade for these would be Ideal. However, you will never see the difference between that and EX, so I think this may be a great stone. That should knock the price down some, without sacrificing anything visually! ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ |
| Posted: 4/7/2009 5:55:26 PM | |
| P: 4/7/2009 5:58:27 PM | |
Stone-cold11 Ideal Rock Total Posts: 6,931 Last Post: 11/25/2009 Member Since: 9/9/2008 |
Date: 4/7/2009 5:55:26 PM Author: Ellen Date: 4/7/2009 5:49:51 PM I think you're right Kt. After squinting realllly hard, it does say that. Author: KtIceRN Date: 4/7/2009 5:23:02 PM Looks like excellent for polish and sym that's why it is a 1. (think that is correct, if I am wrong forgive me)Author: Ellen Date: 4/7/2009 5:20:25 PM That's ok! Looks good so far, but I'm wondering why it got a 1, and not 0. Do you know? Author: cherrick02 Sure! Crown 34.9 Pavilion 40.7 Thought I had posted this, but just realized I totally forgot to! Cherrick02 - seems like it might be a great stone. Can't wait to see all the pics!!!! ![]() Cherrick, the highest grade for these would be Ideal. However, you will never see the difference between that and EX, so I think this may be a great stone. That should knock the price down some, without sacrificing anything visually! But I thought DQR/Gold report only use Ex as their highest polish/symm grade? Might be wrong.
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| Posted: 4/7/2009 5:58:27 PM | |
| P: 4/7/2009 6:17:53 PM | |
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Ellen Ideal Rock Total Posts: 22,894 Last Post: 11/6/2009 Member Since: 1/13/2006 |
Date: 4/7/2009 5:58:27 PM May be right too. Author: Stone-cold11 But I thought DQR/Gold report only use Ex as their highest polish/symm grade? Might be wrong. Cherrick, they recently changed their grading reports, so just ask WF. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ |
| Posted: 4/7/2009 6:17:53 PM | |
| P: 4/8/2009 4:45:50 AM | |
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Lorelei Ideal Rock Total Posts: 34,273 Last Post: 11/25/2009 Member Since: 4/30/2005 |
Cherrick, it looks like a good diamond!
![]() Nothing is more sacred as the bond between horse and rider...no other creature can ever become so emotionally close to a human as a horse. When a horse dies, the memory lives on because an enormous part of his owner's heart, soul, very existence dies also...but that can never be laid to rest, it is not meant to be... - Stephanie M Thorn |
| Posted: 4/8/2009 4:45:50 AM | |
| P: 4/8/2009 8:30:55 AM | |
cherrick02 Rough Rock Total Posts: 44 Last Post: 4/16/2009 Member Since: 4/2/2009 |
Thanks so much everyone for the responses! The said the diamond is coming in today and hopefully I can post some pic's!
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| Posted: 4/8/2009 8:30:55 AM | |
| P: 4/8/2009 6:36:05 PM | |
cherrick02 Rough Rock Total Posts: 44 Last Post: 4/16/2009 Member Since: 4/2/2009 |
Alright so I finally got the pic's, let me know your thoughts!![]()
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| Posted: 4/8/2009 6:36:05 PM | |
| P: 4/8/2009 6:37:08 PM | |
cherrick02 Rough Rock Total Posts: 44 Last Post: 4/16/2009 Member Since: 4/2/2009 |
Pic of the diamond...![]()
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| Posted: 4/8/2009 6:37:08 PM | |
| P: 4/8/2009 6:38:01 PM | |
cherrick02 Rough Rock Total Posts: 44 Last Post: 4/16/2009 Member Since: 4/2/2009 |
Idealscope![]()
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| Posted: 4/8/2009 6:38:01 PM | |
| P: 4/8/2009 6:40:47 PM | |
cherrick02 Rough Rock Total Posts: 44 Last Post: 4/16/2009 Member Since: 4/2/2009 |
ASET![]()
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| Posted: 4/8/2009 6:40:47 PM | |
| P: 4/8/2009 6:57:06 PM | |
Stone-cold11 Ideal Rock Total Posts: 6,931 Last Post: 11/25/2009 Member Since: 9/9/2008 |
IS/ASET looks good, wondering if it is eye-clean. Did WF confirm that it is now that they have seen it?
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| Posted: 4/8/2009 6:57:06 PM | |
| P: 4/8/2009 7:31:40 PM | |
cherrick02 Rough Rock Total Posts: 44 Last Post: 4/16/2009 Member Since: 4/2/2009 |
I actually have not spoken to them yet, however they told me they wouldn't send me the pic's if it wasn't eye clean. Slightly nervous about that myself because everyone has their own definition of eye clean.
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| Posted: 4/8/2009 7:31:40 PM | |
| P: 4/8/2009 7:42:16 PM | |
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kcoursolle Ideal Rock Total Posts: 10,344 Last Post: 10/14/2009 Member Since: 1/21/2006 |
Date: 4/8/2009 7:31:40 PM Author: cherrick02 I actually have not spoken to them yet, however they told me they wouldn't send me the pic's if it wasn't eye clean. Slightly nervous about that myself because everyone has their own definition of eye clean. Hmmm, I bet I could see that black spec in the middle if I squinted. Definitely ask them what their definition is and from how far away from the face, at what angles, etc.
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| Posted: 4/8/2009 7:42:16 PM | |
| P: 4/8/2009 7:42:20 PM | |
Stone-cold11 Ideal Rock Total Posts: 6,931 Last Post: 11/25/2009 Member Since: 9/9/2008 |
Should be good then. Best of luck.
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| Posted: 4/8/2009 7:42:20 PM | |
| P: 4/9/2009 5:29:22 AM | |
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Lorelei Ideal Rock Total Posts: 34,273 Last Post: 11/25/2009 Member Since: 4/30/2005 |
Make extra sure it is eyeclean to your standards.
![]() Nothing is more sacred as the bond between horse and rider...no other creature can ever become so emotionally close to a human as a horse. When a horse dies, the memory lives on because an enormous part of his owner's heart, soul, very existence dies also...but that can never be laid to rest, it is not meant to be... - Stephanie M Thorn |
| Posted: 4/9/2009 5:29:22 AM | |
| P: 4/9/2009 7:57:38 AM | |
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Ellen Ideal Rock Total Posts: 22,894 Last Post: 11/6/2009 Member Since: 1/13/2006 |
Date: 4/8/2009 7:31:40 PM I agree. Can you afford to have it sent to you first so you can check it out yourself? I think that would be prudent with this particular stone. Other than that, the light return looks very good on it!
Author: cherrick02 I actually have not spoken to them yet, however they told me they wouldn't send me the pic's if it wasn't eye clean. Slightly nervous about that myself because everyone has their own definition of eye clean. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ |
| Posted: 4/9/2009 7:57:38 AM | |
| P: 4/9/2009 8:42:21 AM | |
cherrick02 Rough Rock Total Posts: 44 Last Post: 4/16/2009 Member Since: 4/2/2009 |
Thank you to everyone for your responses! As far as having the diamond shipped to me so I can determine if it is "eye clean" to my standards would I pay the cost to have it shipped to me and then back to WF? What would be your recommended company to have it shipped Fed EX, UPS, etc? Also any info on what I should do to ensure the diamond is insured properly if something were to happen to it?
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| Posted: 4/9/2009 8:42:21 AM | |
| P: 4/9/2009 8:55:22 AM | |
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Ellen Ideal Rock Total Posts: 22,894 Last Post: 11/6/2009 Member Since: 1/13/2006 |
Date: 4/9/2009 8:42:21 AM Here's a link that has some info on it. If you have it sent to you personally, you will have to purchase the stone first (but you can easily return it for a refund if not happy). If you have it sent to an independant appraiser (possibly near you so you can go see it) that meets certain criteria, WF will send it to them, and I don't think you have to purchase first. I would call WF and ask them about everything, as I don't want to give you any wrong info.Author: cherrick02 Thank you to everyone for your responses! As far as having the diamond shipped to me so I can determine if it is 'eye clean' to my standards would I pay the cost to have it shipped to me and then back to WF? What would be your recommended company to have it shipped Fed EX, UPS, etc? Also any info on what I should do to ensure the diamond is insured properly if something were to happen to it? http://www.whiteflash.com/diamonds_info/t/faq.aspx?articleid=71&zoneid=6 Will Whiteflash send a diamond to an appraiser of my choosing before I pay? In many cases. The appraiser must be completely independent, hold certain credentials, have membership in one of the professional societies we recognize, provide information on security and be able to demonstrate appropriate insurance coverage. Appraiser schedules, holiday closings and internal factors impact our ability to extend a pre-pay option. If available, the client will be charged for shipping/insurance to and from the appraiser up-front. Should the client purchase the diamond we will apply those shipping charges as a credit towards the final price, unless the diamond is being sent back to us for setting; in that case we set the diamond and ship it to the client afterwards as the one free shipping. Some customers elect to pay the full purchase price up-front so they can take the diamond from the appraiser when he/she is finished. Please contact us to discuss your specific situation. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ |
| Posted: 4/9/2009 8:55:22 AM | |
| P: 4/9/2009 9:15:17 AM | |
cherrick02 Rough Rock Total Posts: 44 Last Post: 4/16/2009 Member Since: 4/2/2009 |
Great, thanks for the info. I found another diamond on their website and am wondering if this is any better. It does cost about $3K more though and it's TCW is less, is it worth it to pay more and get a smaller diamond, do you think the size would be noticeable? I had initially been looking at TCW of 1.77 1.668 AGS Ideal Cut 7.71-7.75X4.64 Depth 60% Table 57% Girdle:Thin to slightly thick SI2 D Fluor:Negligible Crown: 34.1 Pavilion: 40.6 Polish:Excellent Symmetry:Excellent ![]()
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| Posted: 4/9/2009 9:15:17 AM | |
| P: 4/9/2009 9:17:48 AM | |
cherrick02 Rough Rock Total Posts: 44 Last Post: 4/16/2009 Member Since: 4/2/2009 |
Idealscope![]()
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| Posted: 4/9/2009 9:17:48 AM | |
| P: 4/9/2009 9:19:04 AM | |
cherrick02 Rough Rock Total Posts: 44 Last Post: 4/16/2009 Member Since: 4/2/2009 |
ASET![]()
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| Posted: 4/9/2009 9:19:04 AM | |
| P: 4/9/2009 9:21:59 AM | |
cherrick02 Rough Rock Total Posts: 44 Last Post: 4/16/2009 Member Since: 4/2/2009 |
Diamon pic....![]()
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| Posted: 4/9/2009 9:21:59 AM | |
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