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P:  3/26/2009 10:08:52 AM  
icebrker
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Hi All,

After all of my research I have found the following 2 ring. Please help me decide with one I should get. To me it looks the same :)..

1) this one is cheaper by like $119
Carat weight: 1.03
Certificate: AGS
Cut: Ideal
Color: F
Clarity: VS2
Depth %: 61.7%
Table %: 55.4%
Symmetry: Ideal
Polish: Ideal
Girdle: Thin to slightly thick
Culet: Pointed
Fluorescence: Medium blue
Measurements: 6.47 x 6.52 x 4.00 mm



2)
Carat weight: 1.06
Certificate: AGS
Cut: Ideal
Color: F
Clarity: VS2
Depth %: 60.7%
Table %: 57%
Symmetry: Ideal
Polish: Ideal
Girdle: TN-M
Culet: None
Fluorescence: FAINT BLUE
Measurements: 6.59 x 6.62 x 4.01 mm

Posted:  3/26/2009 10:08:52 AM

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P: 3/26/2009 10:09:29 AM
icebrker
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This is for the second diamond.


 

 

Posted:  3/26/2009 10:09:29 AM
P: 3/26/2009 10:16:46 AM
Lorelei
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They both have great potential and are two great diamonds by the look of it, do you have any images such as ASET or Idealscope for either of these?









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Posted:  3/26/2009 10:16:46 AM
P: 3/26/2009 10:18:05 AM
Stone-cold11
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Both looks good, I prefer #1.

Posted:  3/26/2009 10:18:05 AM
P: 3/26/2009 10:20:18 AM
icebrker
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Date: 3/26/2009 10:16:46 AM
Author: Lorelei
They both have great potential, do you have any images such as ASET or Idealscope for either of these?


Nope, all they have is the Certificate.

Posted:  3/26/2009 10:20:18 AM
P: 3/26/2009 10:21:38 AM
icebrker
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Date: 3/26/2009 10:18:05 AM
Author: Stone-cold11
Both looks good, I prefer #1.


Any reason?

The first one does have Medium blue fluorescence and Thin to Slightly thick Girdle compare to Faint fluorescence and Thin to Medium Girdle. And the second one does have a bigger Table? does that matter?

Posted:  3/26/2009 10:21:38 AM
P: 3/26/2009 10:22:24 AM
Ellen
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Date: 3/26/2009 10:18:05 AM
Author: Stone-cold11
Both looks good, I prefer #1.
Ditto.

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Posted:  3/26/2009 10:22:24 AM
P: 3/26/2009 10:25:01 AM
Lorelei
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Date: 3/26/2009 10:21:38 AM
Author: icebrker

The first one does have Medium blue fluorescence and Thin to Slightly thick Girdle compare to Faint fluorescence and Thin to Medium Girdle. And the second one does have a bigger Table? does that matter?

Both are very fine diamonds, the table, girdles etc on the second are well within accepted range - both of these have great proportions.  It can boil down to personal preference but really images are very useful in order to get more info on each, however from the info we have I would pick the second.









Nothing is more sacred as the bond between horse and rider...no other creature can ever become so emotionally close to a human as a horse. When a horse dies, the memory lives on because an enormous part of his owner's heart, soul, very existence dies also...but that can never be laid to rest, it is not meant to be...
- Stephanie M Thorn

Posted:  3/26/2009 10:25:01 AM
P: 3/26/2009 10:29:37 AM
icebrker
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So we have 2 for #1 and 1 for #2.

How about the symbols? any consideration there? looking at the certificate?

Posted:  3/26/2009 10:29:37 AM
P: 3/26/2009 10:30:18 AM
Lorelei
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Date: 3/26/2009 10:29:37 AM
Author: icebrker
So we have 2 for #1 and 1 for #2.

How about the symbols? any consideration there? looking at the certificate?

No concern at all with those inclusions at VS2.  Can you get images for either of these? 









Nothing is more sacred as the bond between horse and rider...no other creature can ever become so emotionally close to a human as a horse. When a horse dies, the memory lives on because an enormous part of his owner's heart, soul, very existence dies also...but that can never be laid to rest, it is not meant to be...
- Stephanie M Thorn

Posted:  3/26/2009 10:30:18 AM
P: 3/26/2009 10:45:52 AM
megeve
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Based on numbers and all things equal, ditto Lorelei #2 - for size! 

Posted:  3/26/2009 10:45:52 AM
P: 3/26/2009 10:55:20 AM
girlie-girl
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I'd also pick the second diamond.  I like that it has a little larger table than the other one.  As Lorelei said, it's probably going to come down to personal preference, but I agree they should both be beautiful. 

Good luck deciding!

Posted:  3/26/2009 10:55:20 AM
P: 4/2/2009 10:25:29 AM
icebrker
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I decided to go with the first diamond from BlueNile. After conversion and so it save me $500. Got delivery of the diamond today :).. To my surprise it is a Canadian Diamond and it came with a card with the following information.

Canadian Diamond Code of Conduct
Shape: BR
Weight: 1.03
Color: F
Clarity: VS2
Lab: AGS
Rough Weight: 2.74
Sight: Nov 2008
Mine: DIAVIK
Origin #: CR220-044
Cert #: 10128303

I was told that Canadian Diamond cost more than other because of the extra labor cost and all Canadian Diamond has a laser signature? Is that true? If so, do I really need to get it re-appraise?

Posted:  4/2/2009 10:25:29 AM
P: 4/2/2009 10:33:25 AM
DiamondFlame
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Congrats on your acquisition! I would have picked option 1 too, mostly because I love blue fluorescence on a diamond.

I know nothing about Canadian diamonds though. I'm sure more knowledgeable PSers here will offer an opinion soon...

-Dmitri-

Posted:  4/2/2009 10:33:25 AM
P: 4/2/2009 10:37:08 AM
Ellen
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Date: 4/2/2009 10:25:29 AM
Author: icebrker
I decided to go with the first diamond from BlueNile. After conversion and so it save me $500. Got delivery of the diamond today :).. To my surprise it is a Canadian Diamond and it came with a card with the following information.

Canadian Diamond Code of Conduct
Shape: BR
Weight: 1.03
Color: F
Clarity: VS2
Lab: AGS
Rough Weight: 2.74
Sight: Nov 2008
Mine: DIAVIK
Origin #: CR220-044
Cert #: 10128303

I was told that Canadian Diamond cost more than other because of the extra labor cost and all Canadian Diamond has a laser signature? Is that true? If so, do I really need to get it re-appraise?
I've heard they carrry about a 15% premium (not sure about laser sig, do you have a loupe). As for an appraisal, what all did BN give you as far as info? The more you have, the easier it will be for you to replace with "like kind".

Congrats, looks like you got a nice diamond!

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

"It is also important for the State to inculcate in its subjects an aversion to any 'conspiracy theory of history' for a search for 'conspiracies' means a search for motives and an attribution of responsibility for historical misdeeds."

-Murray N. Rothbard, in The Anatomy of the State



John Swinton [1829-1901] Chief Editorial Writer of the New York Times (Considered "the Dean of his Profession" by his peers), when asked to toast an 'Independent Press' in a gathering at the National Press Club, circa 1880

"There is no such thing in America as an independent press unless it is in the country towns. You know it, and I know it. There is not one of you who dare express an honest opinion. If you express it you know beforehand that it would never appear in print. I am paid... for keeping my honest opinions out of the paper I am connected with. Others of you are paid similar salaries for doing similar things....

The business of the New York journalist is to distort the truth, to lie outright, to pervert, to vilify, to fawn at the feet of Mammon, and sell his country and race for his daily bread, or for what is about the same thing, his salary. You know this, and I know it and what foolery to be toasting an 'independent press.' We are tools, and the vassals of rich men behind the scenes. We are jumping-jacks. They pull the strings and we dance. Our time, our talents, our lives, our possibilities, all are the property of other men. We are intellectual prostitutes."

Posted:  4/2/2009 10:37:08 AM
P: 4/2/2009 10:46:52 AM
icebrker
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Date: 4/2/2009 10:37:08 AM
Author: Ellen
I've heard they carrry about a 15% premium (not sure about laser sig, do you have a loupe). As for an appraisal, what all did BN give you as far as info? The more you have, the easier it will be for you to replace with 'like kind'.


Congrats, looks like you got a nice diamond!


I don't have a loupe. But I did get the original AGS report and the information matches the information on the Canadian Diamond Code of Conduct card. As well as the receipt from BlueNile.

Ohh, I just notice on the AGS Report it states the following

"AGSL 10128303" has been inscribed on the girdle of this diamond.

Posted:  4/2/2009 10:46:52 AM

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