since1910.com
 

Diamond Jewelry Forums   Picture Gallery   Video Gallery   Journal

   
 Search Posted Today Most Active Help   
 » Home »  » Diamond Prices and Grading »  » RockyTalky »  » Get clarity photographs before you buy!


  

 Get clarity photographs before you buy!

P:  12/6/2003 7:43:34 PM  
niceice
niceice

Ideal Rock
Total Posts: 1,792
Last Post: 7/22/2008
Member Since: 1/29/2003
 
Those of you who are familiar with us are likely to be familiar with our pet peeve which is Internet Dealers who sell off scripts and who never see the diamonds that they sell... Here is a prime example of why we feel it is important for you as a consumer to (1) buy from a dealer who personally evaluates the diamonds that they sell (we're not the only one who does this); (2) provides detailed clarity photographs of the inclusions; and (3) is willing to lose a sale rather than sell a diamond that should never have been produced... We had this puppy pre-sold "off paper" but wanted to see it before it went to our client and boy are we glad that we did because according to the cutter "it's a gorgeous SI-1 that we would love!".

Here is a copy of the plotting diagram that we were faxed. It looks as if the primary inclusions are a diamond crystal in the center of the table facet and a small feather that crosses over the star and bezel main facets in the nine o'clock region.



Now here is a copy of the actual plotting diagram from the original diamond grading report, it shows a myriad of feathers on the top and bottom halves of the stone. If you were to fold the plotting diagrams over each other so that the crease in the paper was between the two halves you would see that the feathers line up with each other but this was not visible on the faxed copy of the lab report.



Now while we would have passed on the stone "off paper" if we'd been able to see all of the feathers plotted along the girdle edge, not everybody would have done so... Some people still would have purchased it thinking that all those feathers are pretty small and insignificant, but would you if you had access to a clarity photograph that showed you this:



Need we say more? Get those clarity photographs before you buy on-line! And if you're buying in a traditional brick and mortar environment, you shouldn't expect any less in terms of service, ask the jeweler to show you the inclusions through the GIA Gem Scope that is probably sitting on their front counter...
Todd L. Gray, President
NiceIce.com

Posted:  12/6/2003 7:43:34 PM

 There are 3 replies to this message.  There are 3 replies on this page.

P: 12/6/2003 8:39:36 PM
Gatorock
Gatorock

Rough Rock
Total Posts: 44
Last Post: 6/28/2004
Member Since: 4/23/2003
 
Excellent point! When a customer is considering an SI1 or SI2 diamond, especially if the diamond is graded by EGl, it is very important for the diamond dealer to make all the necessary arrangements to view the diamond in question before sending it to their client. An SI2 diamond might look eye-clean to one person and not to another. A picture does not lie. If a customer has any reservations about the clarity of a particular diamond, we are pleased to take a picture under our GIA microscope and email it to our customer.


Thanks,
Felicia

Abazias.com

Posted:  12/6/2003 8:39:36 PM
P: 12/7/2003 12:58:18 PM
DiamondExpert
DiamondExpert

Ideal Rock
Total Posts: 1,243
Last Post: 6/20/2009
Member Since: 1/16/2003
 
Your general point is well taken, i.e., that the crown and pavilion inclusion projections need to be checked for continuity, and the example you show has some unsavory (and probably surface-reaching) girdle feathers.

However, if I understand your description, the plots of crown and pavilion would be incorrectly matched if folded in the manner you suggest. When grading, the face up diagram is flipped top-to-bottom in producing the pavilion plot orientation - i.e., the crown 12 and 6 o'clock positions are exchanged in the pavilion plot, while the 9 and 3 o'clock positions remain the same in both plots.

This, however, does not detract from your main points that both plots have to be checked for matching girdle-area incusions, that FAXed plots are impossible to read, and that stones should be personally checked before shipping to the customer.

Gary

www.diamondexpert.com

Posted:  12/7/2003 12:58:18 PM
P: 12/8/2003 10:26:17 AM
magna2
magna2

Cut Rock
Total Posts: 319
Last Post: 2/9/2004
Member Since: 9/22/2003
 
Unfortunately when diamond grading reports are faxed, the fax machine will tend not to pick up the lighter colors that are used to denote the various inclusions and hence a diamond will appear better than it actually is. For that reason, I would rather have vendors scan the actual grading report and then e-mail it to the buyer. Scanning an image will tend to provide the more complete picture of the diamond.

Posted:  12/8/2003 10:26:17 AM

 Previous Page Next Page 
« Jewelry Store Going Out of Business Sale «» So what would you wear next to a baguette setting???? »
Next Topics
Selling a ring.......... I have size issues.... What kind of setting for 3carat so it's not so high? Visually, how much of a difference... First poster needs help please Eternity Band Help EGL? As bad as I've heard? Bent and alone Last minute pendant anxiety found a ring.. looking for it online Please give me your advice on which stone to get European Brilliants Hello! Question about something I keep reading? Are H&A Are H&A's the best performers?? So what would you wear next to a baguette setting???? Please help edit this about cut & Light Return Advice for Newbie: Please offer your opinion, it matters Jewelry Store Going Out of Business Sale More editing help - Contrast through an Ideal-Scope What is the max temperature that diamonds and gold be exposed to? GIADispute Proper way of viewing color Price quote for this band Settings for diamond bands DEPTH CONSIDERATION IN IDEAL CUT STONE Right size diamond for non-jewlery-type woman? (semi-long) Need a second opinion ... I'm new and looking for answers Help with Sarin analysis

Jump to:



Contact Us  |  Back Home  |  Privacy Statement  |  Forum Agreement  |  Forum Policies

Ideal BB Version: 0.1.5.4.beta1 Message forum software powered by  the Ideal BB

IdealBB Badge


Pricescope - Knowledge - Diamond Prices - Tools - Resources - About

© 2000-2009 Pricescope. Terms of Use Privacy Policy Disclaimer
forum archives