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Stone comparison - help please

P: 2/9/2009 10:43:50 AM
paolm2009 Rough Rock Total Posts: 10 Last Post: 4/8/2009 Member Since: 2/9/2009	Hi I have been presented with two stone for consideration and was wondring if anyone could comment on them and as to whether they are good quality stones: 1) GIA report: 2105533947 3.58 carat 2) GIA report: 16927566 3.40 carat Stone 2) I noted has Strong Blue Fluoresence. Should I be worried about this? I am being quoted similar prices for these stones. thanks for your help paolm
Posted: 2/9/2009 10:43:50 AM

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P: 2/9/2009 10:46:14 AM
Lorelei Ideal Rock Total Posts: 34,232 Last Post: 11/24/2009 Member Since: 4/30/2005	Date: 2/9/2009 10:43:50 AM Author:paolm2009 Hi I have been presented with two stone for consideration and was wondring if anyone could comment on them and as to whether they are good quality stones: 1) GIA report: 2105533947 3.58 carat 2) GIA report: 16927566 3.40 carat Stone 2) I noted has Strong Blue Fluoresence. Should I be worried about this? I am being quoted similar prices for these stones. thanks for your help paolm I will look up the diamonds in a moment, but usually SB fluorescence is nothing to worry about, it can make the diamond look cloudy in some lights on very rare occasion but this is unusual - check with the seller to be safe though. Ok, I definitely prefer the first diamond, can you get an ASET or Idealscope image for it please? The second is too deep for my liking and the angles are around the steep deep zone which could result in light leakage so an ASET or Idealscope would definitely be needed for this one. Nothing is more sacred as the bond between horse and rider...no other creature can ever become so emotionally close to a human as a horse. When a horse dies, the memory lives on because an enormous part of his owner's heart, soul, very existence dies also...but that can never be laid to rest, it is not meant to be... - Stephanie M Thorn
Posted: 2/9/2009 10:46:14 AM

P: 2/9/2009 10:50:27 AM
paolm2009 Rough Rock Total Posts: 10 Last Post: 4/8/2009 Member Since: 2/9/2009	sorry i dont know what Idealscope Image is. Where would I find it?
Posted: 2/9/2009 10:50:27 AM

P: 2/9/2009 10:52:43 AM
Lorelei Ideal Rock Total Posts: 34,232 Last Post: 11/24/2009 Member Since: 4/30/2005	Date: 2/9/2009 10:50:27 AM Author: paolm2009 sorry i dont know what Idealscope Image is. Where would I find it? No worries, this gives a brief overview on IS. Also you can ask the vendor if he can provide an Idealscope or ASET image for the diamond, some sellers can provide these on request. http://www.pricescope.com/idealscope_indx.asp The IS is used to determine whether there is any light leakage in a diamond, ASET are used to judge the quality of light performance/ light return. Nothing is more sacred as the bond between horse and rider...no other creature can ever become so emotionally close to a human as a horse. When a horse dies, the memory lives on because an enormous part of his owner's heart, soul, very existence dies also...but that can never be laid to rest, it is not meant to be... - Stephanie M Thorn
Posted: 2/9/2009 10:52:43 AM

P: 2/9/2009 10:52:54 AM
paolm2009 Rough Rock Total Posts: 10 Last Post: 4/8/2009 Member Since: 2/9/2009	In your opinion, based on the figures provided by GIA, does the first stone appear to be well cut I have been told that an Excellent rating from GIA on Cut is not always fully reliable.
Posted: 2/9/2009 10:52:54 AM

P: 2/9/2009 10:53:01 AM
Stone-cold11 Ideal Rock Total Posts: 6,904 Last Post: 11/24/2009 Member Since: 9/9/2008	Definitely #1. Is this an online stone or from a store? You can read about idealscope here http://www.pricescope.com/idealscope_indx.asp. It is a tool to help visualize light performance of a cut diamond.
Posted: 2/9/2009 10:53:01 AM

P: 2/9/2009 10:56:12 AM
paolm2009 Rough Rock Total Posts: 10 Last Post: 4/8/2009 Member Since: 2/9/2009	This is via a store so will have to ask them to send me this.
Posted: 2/9/2009 10:56:12 AM

P: 2/9/2009 10:56:32 AM
Lorelei Ideal Rock Total Posts: 34,232 Last Post: 11/24/2009 Member Since: 4/30/2005	Date: 2/9/2009 10:52:54 AM Author: paolm2009 In your opinion, based on the figures provided by GIA, does the first stone appear to be well cut I have been told that an Excellent rating from GIA on Cut is not always fully reliable. Yes, the first diamond is well cut from the info given. And yes, GIA Excellent cut grade is wide and can encompass less desirable angle combos such as the steep deep mentioned above. Nothing is more sacred as the bond between horse and rider...no other creature can ever become so emotionally close to a human as a horse. When a horse dies, the memory lives on because an enormous part of his owner's heart, soul, very existence dies also...but that can never be laid to rest, it is not meant to be... - Stephanie M Thorn
Posted: 2/9/2009 10:56:32 AM

P: 2/9/2009 10:58:20 AM
Lorelei Ideal Rock Total Posts: 34,232 Last Post: 11/24/2009 Member Since: 4/30/2005	Date: 2/9/2009 10:56:12 AM Author: paolm2009 This is via a store so will have to ask them to send me this. Have you seen the diamond in person? If it is with a store jeweller then they may not be able to supply IS images, what I would recommend is to make any sale final ( and get this in writing) that the diamond checks out with an independant appraisal. This is a substantial purchase and would be a wise move. Here is a tool you can use to find an appraiser in your area. http://www.pricescope.com/appr_list.aspx Nothing is more sacred as the bond between horse and rider...no other creature can ever become so emotionally close to a human as a horse. When a horse dies, the memory lives on because an enormous part of his owner's heart, soul, very existence dies also...but that can never be laid to rest, it is not meant to be... - Stephanie M Thorn
Posted: 2/9/2009 10:58:20 AM

P: 2/9/2009 11:06:36 AM
Lulie Cut Rock Total Posts: 152 Last Post: 8/17/2009 Member Since: 1/5/2009	#1 bc I personally don't appreciate strong fluoresence, had a stone w/faint fluoresence, pretty stone....the violet tint [under the sun] drove me nuts! please don't take me wrong, but if you ever decide to sell it, it would be harder, it took me months to find a buyer for mine..
Posted: 2/9/2009 11:06:36 AM

P: 2/9/2009 11:33:20 AM
paolm2009 Rough Rock Total Posts: 10 Last Post: 4/8/2009 Member Since: 2/9/2009	Thanks for all your advices. Will try and get the IS report.
Posted: 2/9/2009 11:33:20 AM

P: 2/9/2009 11:35:55 AM
Lorelei Ideal Rock Total Posts: 34,232 Last Post: 11/24/2009 Member Since: 4/30/2005	Date: 2/9/2009 11:33:20 AM Author: paolm2009 Thanks for all your advices. Will try and get the IS report. Keep us posted! If you decide to purchase then an appraisal would definitely be a good idea in view of the cost of this diamond. Nothing is more sacred as the bond between horse and rider...no other creature can ever become so emotionally close to a human as a horse. When a horse dies, the memory lives on because an enormous part of his owner's heart, soul, very existence dies also...but that can never be laid to rest, it is not meant to be... - Stephanie M Thorn
Posted: 2/9/2009 11:35:55 AM

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