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P:  1/28/2009 8:00:19 PM  
laysee
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Inspired by many lovely rings here, I decided to go with a green tourmaline for my e-ring and purchased one of Barry's cushion cuts. I love my stone, but I've got some questions about having it set. I'm in love with the Hearts on Fire Simply Bridal Leaf setting. I've seen Clairitek's e-ring which I love and is very similar to the HoF setting. (http://www.pricescope.com/idealbb/view.asp?topicID=100879)

I've just started working with a local jeweler to make a custom setting based on the HoF setting. I understand that he cannot copy the design outright. He is suggesting V-prongs to protect the corners of the stone, which just seems all wrong to me! Too blocky and square for both the stone and the setting for my taste. It also warps the fluidity of the "petals" on the head of the setting. I like delicate and dainty, and don't want the setting to overpower the stone.

Can the prongs stay as is (modified to fit the cushion, but still just the basic four prong setting) and still adequately protect the corners of the stone? I've seen rings here on PS that have the same cut stone with a four prong setting, but they have all had halos surrounding them which I would guess adds extra protection. I love the head of the HoF and Clairitek's e-ring. I don't know how else to change the design enough for it not be a "copy." I've played with the idea of having milgrain and some "engraving" (something along the lines of walter's e-ring http://www.pricescope.com/idealbb/view.asp?topicID=103395). Would adding the engraving and keeping the head the same be enough to make it

Thanks for any suggestions or help!

Lacey


Posted:  1/28/2009 8:00:19 PM

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P: 1/28/2009 8:06:07 PM
laysee
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Afghan tourmaline by Barry Bridgestock. 1.91ct, 7.0mm by 7.0mm. (Bear with me, I'm trying hard to post a picture, but it's my first time! ) This is Barry's picture.
 

 

Posted:  1/28/2009 8:06:07 PM
P: 1/28/2009 8:13:00 PM
laysee
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And a few of my pictures...
 

 

Posted:  1/28/2009 8:13:00 PM
P: 1/28/2009 8:16:04 PM
laysee
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Another.
 

 

Posted:  1/28/2009 8:16:04 PM
P: 1/28/2009 8:17:43 PM
laysee
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And another.
 

 

Posted:  1/28/2009 8:17:43 PM
P: 1/28/2009 8:19:17 PM
LaurenThePartier
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I LOVE that tourmaline, and that cut is awesome!!!!

I have my square cushions in plain 4 prong settings with claw prongs, and the corners are plenty protected.  I would suggest maybe looking into another jeweler, because there's no reason that stone needs a v prong.

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Posted:  1/28/2009 8:19:17 PM
P: 1/28/2009 8:19:21 PM
laysee
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Hand shot.
 

 

Posted:  1/28/2009 8:19:21 PM
P: 1/28/2009 8:37:01 PM
tourmaline_lover
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Beautiful stone!! 

Posted:  1/28/2009 8:37:01 PM
P: 1/28/2009 9:17:08 PM
omieluv
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Date: 1/28/2009 8:06:07 PM
Author: laysee
Afghan tourmaline by Barry Bridgestock. 1.91ct, 7.0mm by 7.0mm. (Bear with me, I'm trying hard to post a picture, but it's my first time! ) This is Barry's picture.

Beautiful!  I hope you are able to find a jeweler who is willing to work with you, as your stone deserves to be showcased in the best possible way.

Posted:  1/28/2009 9:17:08 PM
P: 1/28/2009 9:19:08 PM
omieluv
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Date: 1/28/2009 8:19:17 PM
Author: LaurenThePartier

I have my square cushions in plain 4 prong settings with claw prongs, and the corners are plenty protected. I would suggest maybe looking into another jeweler, because there's no reason that stone needs a v prong.

Lauren, I know there are several pictures of your collection on PS, but could you post a picture of one of your square cushions in the 4 prong setting you describe?  Not to threadjack, but I have a square cushion from BB on the way and I have no clue how to set it.  Thanks!

Posted:  1/28/2009 9:19:08 PM
P: 1/28/2009 10:07:24 PM
glitterata
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What a beautiful stone!

Posted:  1/28/2009 10:07:24 PM
P: 1/28/2009 10:10:58 PM
packrat
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Such a pretty color!

Posted:  1/28/2009 10:10:58 PM
P: 1/28/2009 10:11:02 PM
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That is a beautiful tourmaline! WOW!!

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Posted:  1/28/2009 10:11:02 PM
P: 1/28/2009 11:38:23 PM
Brown.Eyed.Girl
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Wow that tourmaline is gorgeous!! What a great color!

I would think regular prongs would be fine for a square cushion - I have a garnet cushion set into a regular four-prong setting as well and it's fine. Another cushion (an amethyst cut by Barry) is at the jewelers right now getting set into a four-prong halo too. And I don't think tourmaline is one of those stones that you really have to worry about when getting it set (like peridot).

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Posted:  1/28/2009 11:38:23 PM
P: 1/29/2009 12:18:05 AM
laysee
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Date: 1/28/2009 9:19:08 PM
Author: omieluv
Date: 1/28/2009 8:19:17 PM

Author: LaurenThePartier


I have my square cushions in plain 4 prong settings with claw prongs, and the corners are plenty protected. I would suggest maybe looking into another jeweler, because there's no reason that stone needs a v prong.


Lauren, I know there are several pictures of your collection on PS, but could you post a picture of one of your square cushions in the 4 prong setting you describe? Not to threadjack, but I have a square cushion from BB on the way and I have no clue how to set it. Thanks!



Not a threadjack. I'd love to see it as well! I'm leaning towards printing out some examples of what I want to show the jeweler since I want to be clear that it's possible. I figure picture will be a last ditch attempt before I go looking for a new jeweler.

Also, thanks everyone for the compliments and the advice!

Posted:  1/29/2009 12:18:05 AM
P: 1/29/2009 3:26:13 PM
Brown.Eyed.Girl
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Date: 1/29/2009 12:18:05 AM
Author: laysee
Date: 1/28/2009 9:19:08 PM

Author: omieluv

Date: 1/28/2009 8:19:17 PM


Author: LaurenThePartier



I have my square cushions in plain 4 prong settings with claw prongs, and the corners are plenty protected. I would suggest maybe looking into another jeweler, because there's no reason that stone needs a v prong.



Lauren, I know there are several pictures of your collection on PS, but could you post a picture of one of your square cushions in the 4 prong setting you describe? Not to threadjack, but I have a square cushion from BB on the way and I have no clue how to set it. Thanks!




Not a threadjack. I'd love to see it as well! I'm leaning towards printing out some examples of what I want to show the jeweler since I want to be clear that it's possible. I figure picture will be a last ditch attempt before I go looking for a new jeweler.


Also, thanks everyone for the compliments and the advice!


Hi Lauren, hope you don't mind my jumping in!

Ladies, this is one of Lauren's stunning halo rings - you can see that her cushion has regular four prongs (not V prongs). Mine is the same type of ring and I've had no problems.


http://www.pricescope.com/idealbb/view.asp?topicID=103470

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Posted:  1/29/2009 3:26:13 PM
P: 1/29/2009 3:56:27 PM
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Oh Lordy ...what a gorgeous GREEN fireball that is!!!  

Posted:  1/29/2009 3:56:27 PM
P: 1/29/2009 4:01:52 PM
omieluv
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Date: 1/29/2009 3:26:13 PM
Author: Brown.Eyed.Girl

Hi Lauren, hope you don't mind my jumping in!

Ladies, this is one of Lauren's stunning halo rings - you can see that her cushion has regular four prongs (not V prongs). Mine is the same type of ring and I've had no problems.


http://www.pricescope.com/idealbb/view.asp?topicID=103470

Ah, ok.  I feel silly now, as I have seen her pictures before.  For some reason, I was imagining something completely different than what Lauren was describing.  Not her fault, she described her prongs perfectly, my brain is mushy today.

My BB Malaya garnet has arrived at my mom's office.  Hopefully she will be home this evening so that I can see it.  Laysee, looks like we are shape twins as my garnet is a square cushion that is 7.3 x 7.3.  I do have a feeling that the color of your tourmaline will blow the color of my garnet out of the water though, as the malaya looks a bit darkish side on his site.  Your stone just glows!! 

Posted:  1/29/2009 4:01:52 PM
P: 1/29/2009 4:24:28 PM
coatimundi_org
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Beautiful stone, and I love the HOF setting--hope it works out!

Coati, G.G.

Posted:  1/29/2009 4:24:28 PM
P: 1/29/2009 5:55:30 PM
laysee
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Date: 1/29/2009 4:01:52 PM
Author: omieluv
Date: 1/29/2009 3:26:13 PM

Author: Brown.Eyed.Girl


Hi Lauren, hope you don't mind my jumping in!


Ladies, this is one of Lauren's stunning halo rings - you can see that her cushion has regular four prongs (not V prongs). Mine is the same type of ring and I've had no problems.



http://www.pricescope.com/idealbb/view.asp?topicID=103470


Ah, ok. I feel silly now, as I have seen her pictures before. For some reason, I was imagining something completely different than what Lauren was describing. Not her fault, she described her prongs perfectly, my brain is mushy today.


My BB Malaya garnet has arrived at my mom's office. Hopefully she will be home this evening so that I can see it. Laysee, looks like we are shape twins as my garnet is a square cushion that is 7.3 x 7.3. I do have a feeling that the color of your tourmaline will blow the color of my garnet out of the water though, as the malaya looks a bit darkish side on his site. Your stone just glows!!


Can't wait to see pictures of your garnet! I love that cut, so hopefully it's not too dark.

Thanks for everyone's input! I've printed out some examples and inspiration ring pictures to show the jeweler. Maybe with pictures he can understand better what I want. I am in love with my tourmaline, so no way am I covering it up with v prongs!

Posted:  1/29/2009 5:55:30 PM
P: 1/29/2009 6:27:42 PM
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That stone is lovely - I think it will make a stunning ring

Posted:  1/29/2009 6:27:42 PM
P: 1/30/2009 10:26:12 AM
ma re
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I'd have a few suggestions, cause I think there are things other posters missed here.

You call your stone a cushion cut one, while actually it's got 8 tips and as many sides, so it can only be a "modified cushion". For the same reason (number of tips) I don't think 4 prongs would be enough protection, especially for e-ring which will probably be worn more than your usual "dress up" rings. I also hope you know tourmalines are not as hard as some other gems, so you'll have to be a bit more careful if you don't want to damage it.

A halo would certainly not be a bad sollution, but there are others if you're not a fan of the look. A row of diamonds above and below the stone (similar to the look of eternity bands) with tourmaline bar set in the middle would be one, but that's not really delicate so I'm not sure you'd like that. A 6 prong split shank would also be more protective than your suggestion, and it might be done tastefully.

Hope this helps.

P. S. Love the stone - combination of it's greens is amazing!

mr. ma re

Posted:  1/30/2009 10:26:12 AM
P: 1/30/2009 10:46:51 AM
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That stone reminds me of velouriaL's stone. She had it set with faux fishtail prongs but they were teeny (and it came out lovely). Her original thread is here


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Posted:  1/30/2009 10:46:51 AM
P: 1/30/2009 11:31:19 AM
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That is a gorgeous stone!

Posted:  1/30/2009 11:31:19 AM
P: 1/30/2009 11:57:12 AM
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Date: 1/30/2009 10:46:51 AM
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That stone reminds me of velouriaL's stone. She had it set with faux fishtail prongs but they were teeny (and it came out lovely). Her original thread is here





I love this! The tiny fishtails are sweet!

Coati, G.G.

Posted:  1/30/2009 11:57:12 AM
P: 1/30/2009 2:47:07 PM
laysee
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Date: 1/30/2009 10:26:12 AM
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I'd have a few suggestions, cause I think there are things other posters missed here.


You call your stone a cushion cut one, while actually it's got 8 tips and as many sides, so it can only be a 'modified cushion'. For the same reason (number of tips) I don't think 4 prongs would be enough protection, especially for e-ring which will probably be worn more than your usual 'dress up' rings. I also hope you know tourmalines are not as hard as some other gems, so you'll have to be a bit more careful if you don't want to damage it.


A halo would certainly not be a bad sollution, but there are others if you're not a fan of the look. A row of diamonds above and below the stone (similar to the look of eternity bands) with tourmaline bar set in the middle would be one, but that's not really delicate so I'm not sure you'd like that. A 6 prong split shank would also be more protective than your suggestion, and it might be done tastefully.


Hope this helps.


P. S. Love the stone - combination of it's greens is amazing!


Thanks for all of the suggestions. It gives me some things to think about! I do realize that tourmalines are not as hard as other gems and plan on treating it gently, but if you had seen the wax mold that the jeweler worked on that included his suggested v-prongs, I believe anyone would have thought it was overkill. Even my boyfriend agreed and he doesn't know the first thing about jewelry.

Kismet -- Thanks for reminding me about veloriaL's e-ring! I came across that awhile ago, but had forgotten. I do like her faux fishtail prongs, which protect and are still delicate. Very lovely!

Posted:  1/30/2009 2:47:07 PM
P: 1/30/2009 5:13:13 PM
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Oh what a gorgeous stone! I can't wait to see how you get it set.

Michelle



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Posted:  1/30/2009 5:13:13 PM
P: 2/1/2009 1:51:14 AM
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Date: 1/30/2009 10:46:51 AM
Author: Kismet
That stone reminds me of velouriaL's stone. She had it set with faux fishtail prongs but they were teeny (and it came out lovely). Her original thread is here





Wow that's gorgeous! Now I want a green tourm cushion to set like that!

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Posted:  2/1/2009 1:51:14 AM

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