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P:  1/28/2009 6:51:13 PM  
stevenkyk
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Hi everyone :) i am new here. Looks to me there are alot of helpful and friendly diamond expert here. I don't know much about diamond myself so i am hoping some of you can give me alittle advise on picking a good diamond for my engagement ring. My budget is about $4000 in total with the ring. I been looking around for a few days on the internet and these are the 3 that i have been narrowed it down. They all from James Allen website.

1. http://www.jamesallen.com/diamonds/F-VS2-Ideal-Cut-Round-Diamond-1197170.asp?b=16&a=12&c=77&cid=131

2. http://www.jamesallen.com/diamonds/G-VS1-Ideal-Cut-Round-Diamond-1197109.asp?b=16&a=12&c=77&cid=131

3. http://www.jamesallen.com/diamonds/G-VVS2-Ideal-Cut-Round-Diamond-1197278.asp

in case the link doesn't work, The 1st is 0.78Carat, Cut:Heart & Arrows Ideal, Color:F, Clarity:VS2 = $3200 Pricescope Price
                                         The 2nd is 0.80Carat, Cut:Heart & Arrows Ideal, Color:G, Clarity:VS1 = $3590 Pricescope Price
                                         The 3rd is 0.77Carat, Cut:Heart & Arrow Ideal, Color:G, Clarity:VVS2 = $3130 Pricescope Price


please let me know if you think i am making a bad choice.
Thanks so much for your time everyone, i am greatly appreciated
Steven
Posted:  1/28/2009 6:51:13 PM

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P: 1/28/2009 7:09:53 PM
Stone-cold11
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#1

Posted:  1/28/2009 7:09:53 PM
P: 1/28/2009 8:07:03 PM
Ellen
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They are all very nice stones. I would personally go for 2, as it's the biggest by a small bit (and I think VVS2 is a bit overkill on 3). However, 2 and 3 say not available, did you reserve them?

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"It is also important for the State to inculcate in its subjects an aversion to any 'conspiracy theory of history' for a search for 'conspiracies' means a search for motives and an attribution of responsibility for historical misdeeds."

-Murray N. Rothbard, in The Anatomy of the State



John Swinton [1829-1901] Chief Editorial Writer of the New York Times (Considered "the Dean of his Profession" by his peers), when asked to toast an 'Independent Press' in a gathering at the National Press Club, circa 1880

"There is no such thing in America as an independent press unless it is in the country towns. You know it, and I know it. There is not one of you who dare express an honest opinion. If you express it you know beforehand that it would never appear in print. I am paid... for keeping my honest opinions out of the paper I am connected with. Others of you are paid similar salaries for doing similar things....

The business of the New York journalist is to distort the truth, to lie outright, to pervert, to vilify, to fawn at the feet of Mammon, and sell his country and race for his daily bread, or for what is about the same thing, his salary. You know this, and I know it and what foolery to be toasting an 'independent press.' We are tools, and the vassals of rich men behind the scenes. We are jumping-jacks. They pull the strings and we dance. Our time, our talents, our lives, our possibilities, all are the property of other men. We are intellectual prostitutes."

Posted:  1/28/2009 8:07:03 PM
P: 1/28/2009 8:21:14 PM
stevenkyk
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thanks for your reply ... but no i didn't reserved them. I just checked this morning and they were still available. I guess i will have to keep looking.

Posted:  1/28/2009 8:21:14 PM
P: 1/28/2009 8:29:29 PM
Ellen
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Date: 1/28/2009 8:21:14 PM
Author: stevenkyk
thanks for your reply ... but no i didn't reserved them. I just checked this morning and they were still available. I guess i will have to keep looking.
I'm sorry. It happens...


Are you dead set on JA? I found a nice replacement, and you should get 5% PS discount on it.

http://www.whiteflash.com/hearts_arrows/Whiteflash-ACA-cut-diamond-1848247.htm

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

"It is also important for the State to inculcate in its subjects an aversion to any 'conspiracy theory of history' for a search for 'conspiracies' means a search for motives and an attribution of responsibility for historical misdeeds."

-Murray N. Rothbard, in The Anatomy of the State



John Swinton [1829-1901] Chief Editorial Writer of the New York Times (Considered "the Dean of his Profession" by his peers), when asked to toast an 'Independent Press' in a gathering at the National Press Club, circa 1880

"There is no such thing in America as an independent press unless it is in the country towns. You know it, and I know it. There is not one of you who dare express an honest opinion. If you express it you know beforehand that it would never appear in print. I am paid... for keeping my honest opinions out of the paper I am connected with. Others of you are paid similar salaries for doing similar things....

The business of the New York journalist is to distort the truth, to lie outright, to pervert, to vilify, to fawn at the feet of Mammon, and sell his country and race for his daily bread, or for what is about the same thing, his salary. You know this, and I know it and what foolery to be toasting an 'independent press.' We are tools, and the vassals of rich men behind the scenes. We are jumping-jacks. They pull the strings and we dance. Our time, our talents, our lives, our possibilities, all are the property of other men. We are intellectual prostitutes."

Posted:  1/28/2009 8:29:29 PM
P: 1/28/2009 8:57:47 PM
Snicklefritz
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Hi, I'm new to this site too, but I found a lovely diamond from GOG that seems to meet your desired specs.

http://www.goodoldgold.com/diamond/5231/

Round
Carat Weight:0.80ct
Color:H
Clarity:VS2
GIA Cut Grade: Excellent
$3588 for PS-ers

Good luck in your search!

Posted:  1/28/2009 8:57:47 PM
P: 1/28/2009 9:27:58 PM
stevenkyk
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Thanks Ellen and Snicklefritz :) ... i am not dead set for JA ... I do love the one you both suggested. I will definitely take them in my consideration. The reason I pick JA is because i found that their price is very reasonable and read alot of people had good experience with them. I never buy anything this expensive online before. So if anyone has better place to suggest, it will be much much appreciate.

Thanks again everyone :)
Steven

Posted:  1/28/2009 9:27:58 PM
P: 1/28/2009 10:17:21 PM
Snicklefritz
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It's great that you're being a smart shopper. Both Whiteflash and Good Old Gold have excellent reputations on PS. Do a search for them on this forum, and you'll find tons of info and customer reviews.

Posted:  1/28/2009 10:17:21 PM
P: 1/29/2009 4:37:38 AM
Lorelei
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Date: 1/28/2009 8:29:29 PM
Author: Ellen





Date: 1/28/2009 8:21:14 PM
Author: stevenkyk
thanks for your reply ... but no i didn't reserved them. I just checked this morning and they were still available. I guess i will have to keep looking.
I'm sorry. It happens...


Are you dead set on JA? I found a nice replacement, and you should get 5% PS discount on it.

http://www.whiteflash.com/hearts_arrows/Whiteflash-ACA-cut-diamond-1848247.htm

I would have chosen the second one too., but as it is gone then the one Ellen linked could be a great pick.

Maybe for any newbies reading, if you are seriously considering a diamond for purchase and want opinions here, then it would be a good idea to reserve the diamond before you post it as diamonds are being posted and snapped up and not by the poster asking about them more often these days.  I would ask you to think carefully before reserving in fairness to the vendors that you are seriously ready to buy.  Or alternatively just post the following info that we need in order to help you for round diamonds if you don't want to post a link.  The method listed below isn't foolproof as the search can still bring up the diamonds, so if you are really serious reserving is the safest way.

Whether the diamond is with a PS vendor or brick and mortar store and whether you have seen it in person or not.
Type of grading report and cut grade if applicable.
Carat weight
Colour grade
Clarity grade
Depth %
Table %
Crown angle
Pavilion angle
Girdle thickness
Polish and symmetry grades
Diameter measurements
Fluorescence if applicable
Lower girdle measurements


Also post any images you may have of the diamond such as photographs, Idealscope or ASET.









Nothing is more sacred as the bond between horse and rider...no other creature can ever become so emotionally close to a human as a horse. When a horse dies, the memory lives on because an enormous part of his owner's heart, soul, very existence dies also...but that can never be laid to rest, it is not meant to be...
- Stephanie M Thorn

Posted:  1/29/2009 4:37:38 AM
P: 1/29/2009 8:11:06 AM
Ellen
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Date: 1/28/2009 9:27:58 PM
Author: stevenkyk
Thanks Ellen and Snicklefritz :) ... i am not dead set for JA ... I do love the one you both suggested. I will definitely take them in my consideration. The reason I pick JA is because i found that their price is very reasonable and read alot of people had good experience with them. I never buy anything this expensive online before. So if anyone has better place to suggest, it will be much much appreciate.

Thanks again everyone :)
Steven
You're welcome steven.

All three of these jewelers have great reputations. Sometimes you just have to go with who has what you want that is at a price that's affordable. But you couldn't go wrong with GOG or WF, among others.




Sinicklefritz, when I saw your nick it made me me do this ------ > , and then smile. My dad used to call me that when I was little. I don't know that I've ever heard (in this case read) that since.

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

"It is also important for the State to inculcate in its subjects an aversion to any 'conspiracy theory of history' for a search for 'conspiracies' means a search for motives and an attribution of responsibility for historical misdeeds."

-Murray N. Rothbard, in The Anatomy of the State



John Swinton [1829-1901] Chief Editorial Writer of the New York Times (Considered "the Dean of his Profession" by his peers), when asked to toast an 'Independent Press' in a gathering at the National Press Club, circa 1880

"There is no such thing in America as an independent press unless it is in the country towns. You know it, and I know it. There is not one of you who dare express an honest opinion. If you express it you know beforehand that it would never appear in print. I am paid... for keeping my honest opinions out of the paper I am connected with. Others of you are paid similar salaries for doing similar things....

The business of the New York journalist is to distort the truth, to lie outright, to pervert, to vilify, to fawn at the feet of Mammon, and sell his country and race for his daily bread, or for what is about the same thing, his salary. You know this, and I know it and what foolery to be toasting an 'independent press.' We are tools, and the vassals of rich men behind the scenes. We are jumping-jacks. They pull the strings and we dance. Our time, our talents, our lives, our possibilities, all are the property of other men. We are intellectual prostitutes."

Posted:  1/29/2009 8:11:06 AM
P: 1/29/2009 8:20:52 AM
Lorelei
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Date: 1/29/2009 8:11:06 AM
Author: Ellen

Date: 1/28/2009 9:27:58 PM
Author: stevenkyk
Thanks Ellen and Snicklefritz :) ... i am not dead set for JA ... I do love the one you both suggested. I will definitely take them in my consideration. The reason I pick JA is because i found that their price is very reasonable and read alot of people had good experience with them. I never buy anything this expensive online before. So if anyone has better place to suggest, it will be much much appreciate.

Thanks again everyone :)
Steven
You're welcome steven.

All three of these jewelers have great reputations. Sometimes you just have to go with who has what you want that is at a price that's affordable. But you couldn't go wrong with GOG or WF, among others.




Sinicklefritz, when I saw your nick it made me me do this ------ > , and then smile. My dad used to call me that when I was little. I don't know that I've ever heard (in this case read) that since.









Nothing is more sacred as the bond between horse and rider...no other creature can ever become so emotionally close to a human as a horse. When a horse dies, the memory lives on because an enormous part of his owner's heart, soul, very existence dies also...but that can never be laid to rest, it is not meant to be...
- Stephanie M Thorn

Posted:  1/29/2009 8:20:52 AM
P: 1/29/2009 8:29:49 AM
Ellen
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Date: 1/29/2009 8:20:52 AM
Author: Lorelei

Date: 1/29/2009 8:11:06 AM
Author: Ellen

Sinicklefritz, when I saw your nick it made me me do this ------ > , and then smile. My dad used to call me that when I was little. I don't know that I've ever heard (in this case read) that since.
I know!!

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

"It is also important for the State to inculcate in its subjects an aversion to any 'conspiracy theory of history' for a search for 'conspiracies' means a search for motives and an attribution of responsibility for historical misdeeds."

-Murray N. Rothbard, in The Anatomy of the State



John Swinton [1829-1901] Chief Editorial Writer of the New York Times (Considered "the Dean of his Profession" by his peers), when asked to toast an 'Independent Press' in a gathering at the National Press Club, circa 1880

"There is no such thing in America as an independent press unless it is in the country towns. You know it, and I know it. There is not one of you who dare express an honest opinion. If you express it you know beforehand that it would never appear in print. I am paid... for keeping my honest opinions out of the paper I am connected with. Others of you are paid similar salaries for doing similar things....

The business of the New York journalist is to distort the truth, to lie outright, to pervert, to vilify, to fawn at the feet of Mammon, and sell his country and race for his daily bread, or for what is about the same thing, his salary. You know this, and I know it and what foolery to be toasting an 'independent press.' We are tools, and the vassals of rich men behind the scenes. We are jumping-jacks. They pull the strings and we dance. Our time, our talents, our lives, our possibilities, all are the property of other men. We are intellectual prostitutes."

Posted:  1/29/2009 8:29:49 AM
P: 1/29/2009 10:40:42 AM
Snicklefritz
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I'm always glad to provide a bit of cozy nostalgia.

Posted:  1/29/2009 10:40:42 AM
P: 1/29/2009 10:43:59 AM
Lorelei
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Date: 1/29/2009 10:40:42 AM
Author: Snicklefritz
I'm always glad to provide a bit of cozy nostalgia.

Ellen deserves it ' cos she's a doll!!!  And a darling!!

Snicklefritz, did I say hi to you yet?  If not then hi and welcome!









Nothing is more sacred as the bond between horse and rider...no other creature can ever become so emotionally close to a human as a horse. When a horse dies, the memory lives on because an enormous part of his owner's heart, soul, very existence dies also...but that can never be laid to rest, it is not meant to be...
- Stephanie M Thorn

Posted:  1/29/2009 10:43:59 AM
P: 1/29/2009 5:36:02 PM
Snicklefritz
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Thanks for the welcome wagon Lorelei. I'm super glad to be here. I'm probably going to be getting an e-ring in the next year or so, and I want to learn as much as I can. Plus, I think I've already determined that I'll be a diamond lover for life.


Stevenkyk, let us know if you find what you're looking for, or if you would like additional input.

Posted:  1/29/2009 5:36:02 PM
P: 1/29/2009 7:13:08 PM
stevenkyk
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Thanks everyone again, and special thanks for lorelei and snicklefritz ... i will do that next time. i still have few more weeks before i have to make up my mind and that is why i didn't reserve the diamond right away. And to be honest, with only few weeks of reading and learning on how to chose a diamond. I am really not 100% comfortable buying something this big online without even seeing the actual item. But i will keep on looking and hope everyone here can help me to make the best choose and decision at the end. :)  

Posted:  1/29/2009 7:13:08 PM
P: 1/29/2009 7:26:41 PM
Ellen
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Date: 1/29/2009 10:40:42 AM
Author: Snicklefritz
I'm always glad to provide a bit of cozy nostalgia.
lol You have no idea how nice that was, he has been gone several years now.

And I had to laugh when I saw I had slipped an i in there (how I don't know) to spell sinicklefritz. I think it might have been a freudian slip.


Forgive my manners too, welcome to PS!



Lorelei, thank you friend. You're too kind.

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

"It is also important for the State to inculcate in its subjects an aversion to any 'conspiracy theory of history' for a search for 'conspiracies' means a search for motives and an attribution of responsibility for historical misdeeds."

-Murray N. Rothbard, in The Anatomy of the State



John Swinton [1829-1901] Chief Editorial Writer of the New York Times (Considered "the Dean of his Profession" by his peers), when asked to toast an 'Independent Press' in a gathering at the National Press Club, circa 1880

"There is no such thing in America as an independent press unless it is in the country towns. You know it, and I know it. There is not one of you who dare express an honest opinion. If you express it you know beforehand that it would never appear in print. I am paid... for keeping my honest opinions out of the paper I am connected with. Others of you are paid similar salaries for doing similar things....

The business of the New York journalist is to distort the truth, to lie outright, to pervert, to vilify, to fawn at the feet of Mammon, and sell his country and race for his daily bread, or for what is about the same thing, his salary. You know this, and I know it and what foolery to be toasting an 'independent press.' We are tools, and the vassals of rich men behind the scenes. We are jumping-jacks. They pull the strings and we dance. Our time, our talents, our lives, our possibilities, all are the property of other men. We are intellectual prostitutes."

Posted:  1/29/2009 7:26:41 PM
P: 1/30/2009 4:31:42 AM
Lorelei
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Date: 1/29/2009 7:13:08 PM
Author: stevenkyk
Thanks everyone again, and special thanks for lorelei and snicklefritz ... i will do that next time. i still have few more weeks before i have to make up my mind and that is why i didn't reserve the diamond right away. And to be honest, with only few weeks of reading and learning on how to chose a diamond. I am really not 100% comfortable buying something this big online without even seeing the actual item. But i will keep on looking and hope everyone here can help me to make the best choose and decision at the end. :)

You are very welcome steven!  We are here for when you need us, you only have to ask!









Nothing is more sacred as the bond between horse and rider...no other creature can ever become so emotionally close to a human as a horse. When a horse dies, the memory lives on because an enormous part of his owner's heart, soul, very existence dies also...but that can never be laid to rest, it is not meant to be...
- Stephanie M Thorn

Posted:  1/30/2009 4:31:42 AM
P: 1/30/2009 10:07:54 AM
Snicklefritz
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Date: 1/29/2009 7:26:41 PM
Author: Ellen
Date: 1/29/2009 10:40:42 AM

Author: Snicklefritz

I'm always glad to provide a bit of cozy nostalgia.
lol You have no idea how nice that was, he has been gone several years now.


And I had to laugh when I saw I had slipped an i in there (how I don't know) to spell sinicklefritz. I think it might have been a freudian slip.



Forgive my manners too, welcome to PS!




Lorelei, thank you friend. You're too kind.


Thanks Ellen. I know the bittersweet feeling of remembering those we've lost. And I completely understand about the spelling errors. It usually takes me 2-3 tries to sign in with my username.

Posted:  1/30/2009 10:07:54 AM

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