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P: 1/28/2009 3:22:20 PM
njseeker Cut Rock Total Posts: 112 Last Post: 8/5/2009 Member Since: 1/7/2009	So, I went ahead and made the purchase and I got my diamond appraised (thanks to all of your help!). I haven't even seen the diamond but I am very excited and not worried at all but I do have questions. The dimensions that GOG gave to me are different then what the appraiser gave to me (up to .8%). Is this marginal? Which one do you think is more reliable? I inputed the new dimensions in HCA and got a difference of 2.4 for the old dimensions to 1.4 for the new appraiser's dimensions. i'm happy that it went down to 1.4 but i'm not really sure if that means all that much... What are your thoughts? Do you need to know the old vs. new dimensions?
Posted: 1/28/2009 3:22:20 PM

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P: 1/28/2009 3:42:11 PM
Stone-cold11 Ideal Rock Total Posts: 6,895 Last Post: 11/23/2009 Member Since: 9/9/2008	Depends on what equipment the appraiser used to measure the dimension, so accuracy is dependent. GOG has one of the most high tech measuring system in the US outside of the major grading labs so I would trust their measure more.
Posted: 1/28/2009 3:42:11 PM

P: 1/28/2009 3:42:52 PM
Lorelei Ideal Rock Total Posts: 34,228 Last Post: 11/23/2009 Member Since: 4/30/2005	Date: 1/28/2009 3:22:20 PM Author:njseeker So, I went ahead and made the purchase and I got my diamond appraised (thanks to all of your help!). I haven't even seen the diamond but I am very excited and not worried at all but I do have questions. The dimensions that GOG gave to me are different then what the appraiser gave to me (up to .8%). Is this marginal? Which one do you think is more reliable? I inputed the new dimensions in HCA and got a difference of 2.4 for the old dimensions to 1.4 for the new appraiser's dimensions. i'm happy that it went down to 1.4 but i'm not really sure if that means all that much... What are your thoughts? Do you need to know the old vs. new dimensions? Don't worry, some variance is normal between the various systems used. Nothing is more sacred as the bond between horse and rider...no other creature can ever become so emotionally close to a human as a horse. When a horse dies, the memory lives on because an enormous part of his owner's heart, soul, very existence dies also...but that can never be laid to rest, it is not meant to be... - Stephanie M Thorn
Posted: 1/28/2009 3:42:52 PM

P: 2/4/2009 9:47:52 AM
njseeker Cut Rock Total Posts: 112 Last Post: 8/5/2009 Member Since: 1/7/2009	Thank you all again. I proposed and she accepted and she was thrilled with the proposal. I feel very lucky that everything went so smoothly. I promised in threads a long time ago to post a picture of the diamond and I will as soon as I can figure out how (I don't even own a camera). I purchased the diamond and wired the money to my vendor, GOG (Good Old Gold) without ever having seen the diamond and I am pretty happy. I know that I paid a bit of a premium for a good quality hearts and arrows diamond (nonbranded) and for the service that I received from GOG. I'm not sure how close I could compare it to branded diamonds but during my consultation my appraiser said that the quality was comparable to a hearts on fire diamond. After he said that my f's eyes got really big and the smile on her face was priceless. I don't think she realized how many experts, on here, that I consulted! I'm not really sure if the diamond I got is really on par with the quality of a HOF diamond but I am pretty happy knowing that I got good quality.
Posted: 2/4/2009 9:47:52 AM

P: 2/4/2009 9:54:07 AM
njseeker Cut Rock Total Posts: 112 Last Post: 8/5/2009 Member Since: 1/7/2009	I took this picture from my cell phone.
Posted: 2/4/2009 9:54:07 AM

P: 2/4/2009 9:55:31 AM
Lorelei Ideal Rock Total Posts: 34,228 Last Post: 11/23/2009 Member Since: 4/30/2005	YAY - MANY congrats to you and the ring is superb!!!! The diamond itself is stunning!!!! Nothing is more sacred as the bond between horse and rider...no other creature can ever become so emotionally close to a human as a horse. When a horse dies, the memory lives on because an enormous part of his owner's heart, soul, very existence dies also...but that can never be laid to rest, it is not meant to be... - Stephanie M Thorn
Posted: 2/4/2009 9:55:31 AM

P: 2/4/2009 10:34:00 AM
tyty333 Ideal Rock Total Posts: 2,395 Last Post: 11/23/2009 Member Since: 12/17/2008	Well, it looks beautiful ....(but who can say its sooo BLURRY!) Next major purchase...good digital camera! In the mean time, beg, borrow or steal a decent camera and get us some more pictures of your lovely ring!!! ~~~Thanks to PS, my wants far exceed my budget!~~~
Posted: 2/4/2009 10:34:00 AM

P: 2/4/2009 10:39:10 AM
Ellen Ideal Rock Total Posts: 22,894 Last Post: 11/6/2009 Member Since: 1/13/2006	Date: 2/4/2009 9:54:07 AM Author: njseeker I took this picture from my cell phone. Looks fab nj! I think you should buy her (and you) a camera to go with. Then we can see more of her lovely ring. Congrats, you did a great job! ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ "It is also important for the State to inculcate in its subjects an aversion to any 'conspiracy theory of history' for a search for 'conspiracies' means a search for motives and an attribution of responsibility for historical misdeeds." -Murray N. Rothbard, in The Anatomy of the State John Swinton [1829-1901] Chief Editorial Writer of the New York Times (Considered "the Dean of his Profession" by his peers), when asked to toast an 'Independent Press' in a gathering at the National Press Club, circa 1880 "There is no such thing in America as an independent press unless it is in the country towns. You know it, and I know it. There is not one of you who dare express an honest opinion. If you express it you know beforehand that it would never appear in print. I am paid... for keeping my honest opinions out of the paper I am connected with. Others of you are paid similar salaries for doing similar things.... The business of the New York journalist is to distort the truth, to lie outright, to pervert, to vilify, to fawn at the feet of Mammon, and sell his country and race for his daily bread, or for what is about the same thing, his salary. You know this, and I know it and what foolery to be toasting an 'independent press.' We are tools, and the vassals of rich men behind the scenes. We are jumping-jacks. They pull the strings and we dance. Our time, our talents, our lives, our possibilities, all are the property of other men. We are intellectual prostitutes."
Posted: 2/4/2009 10:39:10 AM

P: 2/4/2009 10:56:52 AM
njseeker Cut Rock Total Posts: 112 Last Post: 8/5/2009 Member Since: 1/7/2009	I'm sorry... my fiancee has a camera and I actually have a digital camera that I won at a work event but I never opened... I'm just not a camera person. I will try to get better pictures up so everyone can see.
Posted: 2/4/2009 10:56:52 AM

P: 2/6/2009 12:59:49 AM
njseeker Cut Rock Total Posts: 112 Last Post: 8/5/2009 Member Since: 1/7/2009	I thought my attempt at taking a photo of our ring with my cell phone was laughable! =) Soooooo... I borrowed my fiancee's camera and threw away my cell phone camera.... I took like 50 shots of the ring with it in different lighting and here are three that I thought looked pretty good. I find myself getting slowly addicted to pricescope... is that strange? I'm a guy... should I be this interested in diamonds? Anyway, I had to resize the images and mess around with the quality of the pics in order to meet the file size requirement so I'm hoping they still turn out ok... here goes.
Posted: 2/6/2009 12:59:49 AM

P: 2/6/2009 1:00:37 AM
njseeker Cut Rock Total Posts: 112 Last Post: 8/5/2009 Member Since: 1/7/2009	Hand shot!
Posted: 2/6/2009 1:00:37 AM

P: 2/6/2009 1:01:36 AM
njseeker Cut Rock Total Posts: 112 Last Post: 8/5/2009 Member Since: 1/7/2009	My attempt at getting some arrows! --->
Posted: 2/6/2009 1:01:36 AM

P: 2/6/2009 1:03:33 AM
njseeker Cut Rock Total Posts: 112 Last Post: 8/5/2009 Member Since: 1/7/2009	By the way, that last shot is of my finger... my fiancee was all worried that people would think that was her ugly finger! =)
Posted: 2/6/2009 1:03:33 AM

P: 2/6/2009 1:20:23 AM
Deelight Ideal Rock Total Posts: 5,093 Last Post: 11/23/2009 Member Since: 10/4/2007	WOW it is a stunner, your FI must be pleased as punch :) __________________________________________________________ Sometimes if your really lucky all your dreams do come true ...............
Posted: 2/6/2009 1:20:23 AM

P: 2/6/2009 3:58:37 AM
Lorelei Ideal Rock Total Posts: 34,228 Last Post: 11/23/2009 Member Since: 4/30/2005	* sigh*...absolutely gorgeous!!! Nothing is more sacred as the bond between horse and rider...no other creature can ever become so emotionally close to a human as a horse. When a horse dies, the memory lives on because an enormous part of his owner's heart, soul, very existence dies also...but that can never be laid to rest, it is not meant to be... - Stephanie M Thorn
Posted: 2/6/2009 3:58:37 AM

P: 2/6/2009 4:11:02 AM
chiquitapet Ideal Rock Total Posts: 2,107 Last Post: 11/23/2009 Member Since: 10/17/2007	It`s beautiful!! Congratulations!!
Posted: 2/6/2009 4:11:02 AM

P: 2/6/2009 6:57:46 AM
blastdoor Cut Rock Total Posts: 159 Last Post: 3/4/2009 Member Since: 12/30/2008	Date: 2/6/2009 12:59:49 AM Author: njseeker I find myself getting slowly addicted to pricescope... is that strange? I'm a guy... should I be this interested in diamonds? no worries, not one bit... i'm 6 foot 2, 300 pounds and i too find myself crazy over these little sparklies (even bought myself a loupe.. haha)... and that started when i was looking for THE ring to propose to my (then) girlfriend too...
Posted: 2/6/2009 6:57:46 AM

P: 2/6/2009 7:03:39 AM
strmrdr Ideal Rock Total Posts: 23,296 Last Post: 10/9/2009 Member Since: 11/1/2003	Congrates!!! No worries it is as good as the best hof and likely better than most. I have seen some hof diamonds that did not impress me. ........... Karl has joined the diamond trade and is now posting as Karl_K
Posted: 2/6/2009 7:03:39 AM

P: 2/6/2009 8:08:14 AM
njseeker Cut Rock Total Posts: 112 Last Post: 8/5/2009 Member Since: 1/7/2009	Thanks everyone! I actually had fun taking the pictures. The entire time my f was laughing at me... =)
Posted: 2/6/2009 8:08:14 AM

P: 2/6/2009 8:10:18 AM
Lorelei Ideal Rock Total Posts: 34,228 Last Post: 11/23/2009 Member Since: 4/30/2005	Date: 2/6/2009 8:08:14 AM Author: njseeker Thanks everyone! I actually had fun taking the pictures. The entire time my f was laughing at me... =) Tell her you could always have it reset as a pinky ring for your good self!! Nothing is more sacred as the bond between horse and rider...no other creature can ever become so emotionally close to a human as a horse. When a horse dies, the memory lives on because an enormous part of his owner's heart, soul, very existence dies also...but that can never be laid to rest, it is not meant to be... - Stephanie M Thorn
Posted: 2/6/2009 8:10:18 AM

P: 2/6/2009 8:15:10 AM
Chrono Ideal Rock Total Posts: 11,318 Last Post: 11/23/2009 Member Since: 4/22/2004	Woah! What a giant stunner!
Posted: 2/6/2009 8:15:10 AM

P: 2/6/2009 8:45:57 AM
tyty333 Ideal Rock Total Posts: 2,395 Last Post: 11/23/2009 Member Since: 12/17/2008	WOW! Did I miss the stats on that baby??? That thing looks hugh and beautiful!!! Stats please! ~~~Thanks to PS, my wants far exceed my budget!~~~
Posted: 2/6/2009 8:45:57 AM

P: 2/6/2009 9:28:23 AM
njseeker Cut Rock Total Posts: 112 Last Post: 8/5/2009 Member Since: 1/7/2009	What kind of stats would you like? =) Do you want the dimensions? It's a 1.71 G VS2 from GOG...
Posted: 2/6/2009 9:28:23 AM

P: 2/6/2009 9:43:27 AM
grapegravity Cut Rock Total Posts: 450 Last Post: 10/15/2009 Member Since: 11/25/2003	wow! congrats!!!! btw, can you tell us what is the ring size? (size 3?) Got rock?
Posted: 2/6/2009 9:43:27 AM

P: 2/6/2009 10:02:34 AM
njseeker Cut Rock Total Posts: 112 Last Post: 8/5/2009 Member Since: 1/7/2009	Sure, the ring size is a 4.25... She has smaller than average fingers so I like how the diamond looks on her hand. I think it makes it look even bigger!!!
Posted: 2/6/2009 10:02:34 AM

P: 2/6/2009 11:01:06 AM
Ellen Ideal Rock Total Posts: 22,894 Last Post: 11/6/2009 Member Since: 1/13/2006	Date: 2/6/2009 12:59:49 AM Author: njseeker I thought my attempt at taking a photo of our ring with my cell phone was laughable! =) Soooooo... I borrowed my fiancee's camera and threw away my cell phone camera.... I took like 50 shots of the ring with it in different lighting and here are three that I thought looked pretty good. I find myself getting slowly addicted to pricescope... is that strange? I'm a guy... should I be this interested in diamonds? Anyway, I had to resize the images and mess around with the quality of the pics in order to meet the file size requirement so I'm hoping they still turn out ok... here goes. Newp, it happens. Wowzers, thank you so much for the pics! A true stunner, and man, talk about coverage. I am uber jealous! You did a fantastic job, congrats! ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ "It is also important for the State to inculcate in its subjects an aversion to any 'conspiracy theory of history' for a search for 'conspiracies' means a search for motives and an attribution of responsibility for historical misdeeds." -Murray N. Rothbard, in The Anatomy of the State John Swinton [1829-1901] Chief Editorial Writer of the New York Times (Considered "the Dean of his Profession" by his peers), when asked to toast an 'Independent Press' in a gathering at the National Press Club, circa 1880 "There is no such thing in America as an independent press unless it is in the country towns. You know it, and I know it. There is not one of you who dare express an honest opinion. If you express it you know beforehand that it would never appear in print. I am paid... for keeping my honest opinions out of the paper I am connected with. Others of you are paid similar salaries for doing similar things.... The business of the New York journalist is to distort the truth, to lie outright, to pervert, to vilify, to fawn at the feet of Mammon, and sell his country and race for his daily bread, or for what is about the same thing, his salary. You know this, and I know it and what foolery to be toasting an 'independent press.' We are tools, and the vassals of rich men behind the scenes. We are jumping-jacks. They pull the strings and we dance. Our time, our talents, our lives, our possibilities, all are the property of other men. We are intellectual prostitutes."
Posted: 2/6/2009 11:01:06 AM

P: 2/19/2009 5:29:44 PM
:) Ideal Rock Total Posts: 1,864 Last Post: 6/1/2009 Member Since: 7/25/2006	NJ- I just saw you posting and thus came hunting for the finished product (got worried for a minute you didn't post any pics!!)- it is stunning! Congrats! P.S with regards to your statement: "I'm not really sure if the diamond I got is really on par with the quality of a HOF diamond but I am pretty happy knowing that I got good quality." - take it to a HOF dealer and compare it to the HOF stones and you will know/see with your own eyes that it does indeed compare!!
Posted: 2/19/2009 5:29:44 PM

P: 2/19/2009 5:52:29 PM
Triggerfish Rough Rock Total Posts: 88 Last Post: 3/17/2009 Member Since: 11/11/2008	Wow! I'm starting to feel a bit inferior now. LOL. That thing is Ginormous! Mine will look like a sidestone in comparison. Uh-oh.....I think I may have diamond envy. Congrats though....that is definitely a beauty! Well done. Now, just promise to never EVER show those pics to my girl! LOL
Posted: 2/19/2009 5:52:29 PM

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