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P: 1/28/2009 2:58:14 PM
RBsearch Rough Rock Total Posts: 95 Last Post: 5/16/2009 Member Since: 1/20/2009	I'd love to hear some feedback on this round diamond that I am considering. Specs and photos (including idealscope image) below. My two main concerns: 1) It's not listed as a hearts and arrows stone, so I worry it won't be as nice as some other GOG H&A stones or Whiteflash ACA stones. The price is great, but I don't have a 'hearts' image to compare. 2) It has a couple of inclusions on the table, though I am told it is eye-clean. size: 0.9 cts (6.246.273.83) HCA score: 1.3 (within Tolkowsky Ideal Cut range) cut: AGS0 color: F clarity: SI2 depth: 61.3% table: 54.5% crown: 34.5 deg pavilion: 40.8 deg girdle: thin to medium
Posted: 1/28/2009 2:58:14 PM

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P: 1/28/2009 2:59:32 PM
RBsearch Rough Rock Total Posts: 95 Last Post: 5/16/2009 Member Since: 1/20/2009	Idealscope image:
Posted: 1/28/2009 2:59:32 PM

P: 1/28/2009 3:44:37 PM
Lorelei Ideal Rock Total Posts: 34,228 Last Post: 11/23/2009 Member Since: 4/30/2005	It looks good! If you want a branded h&a diamond then the ACA or GOG diamonds are the ones to consider, otherwise the diamond you linked could be an excellent choice as you have checked it is eyeclean to your standards. The main thing is the proportion combo, that is excellent with this diamond and it should be a beautiful gem. Nothing is more sacred as the bond between horse and rider...no other creature can ever become so emotionally close to a human as a horse. When a horse dies, the memory lives on because an enormous part of his owner's heart, soul, very existence dies also...but that can never be laid to rest, it is not meant to be... - Stephanie M Thorn
Posted: 1/28/2009 3:44:37 PM

P: 1/28/2009 3:50:04 PM
RBsearch Rough Rock Total Posts: 95 Last Post: 5/16/2009 Member Since: 1/20/2009	Regarding the H&A designation: If a diamond fits the H&A criteria, will it typically perform better (i.e., look prettier on my gf's hand) than another diamond that's not H&A (assuming they have similar measurements, colors, HCA scores, etc?)
Posted: 1/28/2009 3:50:04 PM

P: 1/28/2009 4:00:00 PM
Lorelei Ideal Rock Total Posts: 34,228 Last Post: 11/23/2009 Member Since: 4/30/2005	Date: 1/28/2009 3:50:04 PM Author: RBsearch Regarding the H&A designation: If a diamond fits the H&A criteria, will it typically perform better (i.e., look prettier on my gf's hand) than another diamond that's not H&A (assuming they have similar measurements, colors, HCA scores, etc?) Not necessarily. You can have diamonds which show a strong arrow pattern and hearts but may not be the best performers or be well cut. Conversely you can have a top cut diamond not show hearts and arrows which can be stunning. The proportions are the bricks and mortar and foundation of a diamond, they are what direct the light return through the diamond ( particularly the crown and pavilion angles), so it is very important to concentrate on these. What you have there looks to be a diamond with excellent proportions which will work extremely well together ( solid bricks and mortar/ foundation) and should result in a beautiful diamond which will be among the small percentage of excellently cut diamonds. You also have a strong and distinct arrow pattern so from the lay persons point of view, it might be difficult to tell this diamond from a branded h&a anyway. Like I said, if you want the brand ' pedigree' then thats fine, but if you want a top cut rock that has distinct arrows with sparkle that should rival these cuts, then this one should fit the bill nicely! Nothing is more sacred as the bond between horse and rider...no other creature can ever become so emotionally close to a human as a horse. When a horse dies, the memory lives on because an enormous part of his owner's heart, soul, very existence dies also...but that can never be laid to rest, it is not meant to be... - Stephanie M Thorn
Posted: 1/28/2009 4:00:00 PM

P: 1/28/2009 7:09:00 PM
RBsearch Rough Rock Total Posts: 95 Last Post: 5/16/2009 Member Since: 1/20/2009	Thanks so much for the input. So I shouldn't be worried about the inclusion on/under the table? They say it is eye clean from 8-10 inches, which is all I could hope for with an SI2.
Posted: 1/28/2009 7:09:00 PM

P: 1/28/2009 7:30:31 PM
Ellen Ideal Rock Total Posts: 22,894 Last Post: 11/6/2009 Member Since: 1/13/2006	Date: 1/28/2009 7:09:00 PM Author: RBsearch Thanks so much for the input. So I shouldn't be worried about the inclusion on/under the table? They say it is eye clean from 8-10 inches, which is all I could hope for with an SI2. Not unless you think it's going to bother your girl.... Will it? ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ "It is also important for the State to inculcate in its subjects an aversion to any 'conspiracy theory of history' for a search for 'conspiracies' means a search for motives and an attribution of responsibility for historical misdeeds." -Murray N. Rothbard, in The Anatomy of the State John Swinton [1829-1901] Chief Editorial Writer of the New York Times (Considered "the Dean of his Profession" by his peers), when asked to toast an 'Independent Press' in a gathering at the National Press Club, circa 1880 "There is no such thing in America as an independent press unless it is in the country towns. You know it, and I know it. There is not one of you who dare express an honest opinion. If you express it you know beforehand that it would never appear in print. I am paid... for keeping my honest opinions out of the paper I am connected with. Others of you are paid similar salaries for doing similar things.... The business of the New York journalist is to distort the truth, to lie outright, to pervert, to vilify, to fawn at the feet of Mammon, and sell his country and race for his daily bread, or for what is about the same thing, his salary. You know this, and I know it and what foolery to be toasting an 'independent press.' We are tools, and the vassals of rich men behind the scenes. We are jumping-jacks. They pull the strings and we dance. Our time, our talents, our lives, our possibilities, all are the property of other men. We are intellectual prostitutes."
Posted: 1/28/2009 7:30:31 PM

P: 1/28/2009 7:48:46 PM
RBsearch Rough Rock Total Posts: 95 Last Post: 5/16/2009 Member Since: 1/20/2009	No, she's pretty easy going about this stuff. Thanks for putting things in perspective.
Posted: 1/28/2009 7:48:46 PM

P: 1/28/2009 8:04:37 PM
swingirl Ideal Rock Total Posts: 3,286 Last Post: 11/23/2009 Member Since: 4/6/2006	I think it's a lovely stone and if you are happy with the price and specs go for it. You will pay a premium for the ACAs and GOG H&As. But once set this could look just as nice.
Posted: 1/28/2009 8:04:37 PM

P: 1/28/2009 8:09:02 PM
Ellen Ideal Rock Total Posts: 22,894 Last Post: 11/6/2009 Member Since: 1/13/2006	Date: 1/28/2009 7:48:46 PM Author: RBsearch No, she's pretty easy going about this stuff. Thanks for putting things in perspective. Then it sounds like you're good to go! ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ "It is also important for the State to inculcate in its subjects an aversion to any 'conspiracy theory of history' for a search for 'conspiracies' means a search for motives and an attribution of responsibility for historical misdeeds." -Murray N. Rothbard, in The Anatomy of the State John Swinton [1829-1901] Chief Editorial Writer of the New York Times (Considered "the Dean of his Profession" by his peers), when asked to toast an 'Independent Press' in a gathering at the National Press Club, circa 1880 "There is no such thing in America as an independent press unless it is in the country towns. You know it, and I know it. There is not one of you who dare express an honest opinion. If you express it you know beforehand that it would never appear in print. I am paid... for keeping my honest opinions out of the paper I am connected with. Others of you are paid similar salaries for doing similar things.... The business of the New York journalist is to distort the truth, to lie outright, to pervert, to vilify, to fawn at the feet of Mammon, and sell his country and race for his daily bread, or for what is about the same thing, his salary. You know this, and I know it and what foolery to be toasting an 'independent press.' We are tools, and the vassals of rich men behind the scenes. We are jumping-jacks. They pull the strings and we dance. Our time, our talents, our lives, our possibilities, all are the property of other men. We are intellectual prostitutes."
Posted: 1/28/2009 8:09:02 PM

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