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| P: 1/25/2009 10:05:13 AM | |
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fafa Cut Rock Total Posts: 257 Last Post: 9/18/2009 Member Since: 3/21/2006 |
I just got this 18ct gold necklace from a British dealer who claims that it's from the art nouveau period. Does it look like an authentic piece? One of the loop has a hallmark look like the French eagle head. Does this stamp look like the real deal? Any opinion will be appreciated. Thanks.
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| Posted: 1/25/2009 10:05:13 AM | |
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| P: 1/25/2009 10:06:22 AM | |
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fafa Cut Rock Total Posts: 257 Last Post: 9/18/2009 Member Since: 3/21/2006 |
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| Posted: 1/25/2009 10:06:22 AM | |
| P: 1/25/2009 10:07:18 AM | |
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fafa Cut Rock Total Posts: 257 Last Post: 9/18/2009 Member Since: 3/21/2006 |
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| Posted: 1/25/2009 10:07:18 AM | |
| P: 1/25/2009 10:09:19 AM | |
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fafa Cut Rock Total Posts: 257 Last Post: 9/18/2009 Member Since: 3/21/2006 |
the stamp![]()
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| Posted: 1/25/2009 10:09:19 AM | |
| P: 1/25/2009 10:12:56 AM | |
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fafa Cut Rock Total Posts: 257 Last Post: 9/18/2009 Member Since: 3/21/2006 |
Another picture of the stamp. There are also other marks on the loop but I couldn't get a clear picture under my kitchen light. I will try to take better pictures when the sun come out.![]()
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| Posted: 1/25/2009 10:12:56 AM | |
| P: 1/25/2009 12:00:52 PM | |
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glitterata Ideal Rock Total Posts: 3,364 Last Post: 11/22/2009 Member Since: 4/17/2002 |
It's pretty. It could be authentic as far as I know. How long is it? The longer it is, the more I would believe it's old--they wore long chains back then to hold watches, lorgnettes, etc.
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| Posted: 1/25/2009 12:00:52 PM | |
| P: 1/25/2009 3:49:29 PM | |
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fafa Cut Rock Total Posts: 257 Last Post: 9/18/2009 Member Since: 3/21/2006 |
glitterata, thanks for your compliement. The chain is 28" long and weight 25.5 grams. Yes, I saw some 50" and 60" pieces when I was shopping around. There are also very short ones around 13-16". I wonder if they cut the long ones short to make necklaces because those chains all have regular clasps instead of swirl watch clasp. I just bought a 14" white gold watch chain from a later periiod. I use it as choker. It has very heavy watch clasp.
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| Posted: 1/25/2009 3:49:29 PM | |
| P: 1/25/2009 7:35:06 PM | |
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glitterata Ideal Rock Total Posts: 3,364 Last Post: 11/22/2009 Member Since: 4/17/2002 |
Yes, it certainly could be a longer watch chain cut down. I think it's really attractive, and I wouldn't be at all surprised if it were genuinely old. Wear it in health & happiness.
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| Posted: 1/25/2009 7:35:06 PM | |
| P: 1/26/2009 2:33:15 AM | |
jewelerman Ideal Rock Total Posts: 2,192 Last Post: 11/22/2009 Member Since: 9/30/2007 |
Date: 1/25/2009 10:05:13 AM looks period to me.
Author:fafa I just got this 18ct gold necklace from a British dealer who claims that it's from the art nouveau period. Does it look like an authentic piece? One of the loop has a hallmark look like the French eagle head. Does this stamp look like the real deal? Any opinion will be appreciated. Thanks.
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| Posted: 1/26/2009 2:33:15 AM | |
| P: 1/26/2009 4:55:28 AM | |
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fafa Cut Rock Total Posts: 257 Last Post: 9/18/2009 Member Since: 3/21/2006 |
glitterata and jewelerman, thank you for your opinions. Do you think the eagle head is authentic?
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| Posted: 1/26/2009 4:55:28 AM | |
| P: 1/26/2009 5:02:54 AM | |
LittleGreyKitten Ideal Rock Total Posts: 1,016 Last Post: 11/22/2009 Member Since: 11/27/2007 |
I kind of think it probably is period too. Even if perchance the clasp turns out to be newer, it wouldn't necessarily mean the whole necklace is... it wouldn't be unusual at all, to see a new clasp on an old necklace. (Not saying it is a new clasp- I just checked the clasp on the safety chain on one of my 1910ish French watches and it looks a lot like yours.) The chain itself has a nice delicacy to it, and the scrollwork/filigree looks like it's very nicely done, which would make me think it is indeed an old one. It is really pretty!
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| Posted: 1/26/2009 5:02:54 AM | |
| P: 2/1/2009 4:00:58 AM | |
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fafa Cut Rock Total Posts: 257 Last Post: 9/18/2009 Member Since: 3/21/2006 |
Thank you LittleGreyKitten for your input. The more I look at it the more I think it's an old one. Yes, I really like the craftmanship on this chain. The detailed millibead design and the scroll work are amazing. Here are two neck shot to show how I wear it. Thanks for everyone's help.
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| Posted: 2/1/2009 4:00:58 AM | |
| P: 2/1/2009 4:01:59 AM | |
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fafa Cut Rock Total Posts: 257 Last Post: 9/18/2009 Member Since: 3/21/2006 |
double it up
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| Posted: 2/1/2009 4:01:59 AM | |
| P: 2/1/2009 11:16:42 AM | |
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glitterata Ideal Rock Total Posts: 3,364 Last Post: 11/22/2009 Member Since: 4/17/2002 |
Fafa, that looks great on you, both ways.
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| Posted: 2/1/2009 11:16:42 AM | |
| P: 2/1/2009 1:06:54 PM | |
jewelerman Ideal Rock Total Posts: 2,192 Last Post: 11/22/2009 Member Since: 9/30/2007 |
Date: 2/1/2009 11:16:42 AM the necklace is beautiful on you!This style of chain is a real classic look that never dates itself...wear it often and enjoy the compliments you recieve!
Author: glitterata Fafa, that looks great on you, both ways.
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| Posted: 2/1/2009 1:06:54 PM | |
| P: 2/1/2009 2:55:32 PM | |
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Addy Ideal Rock Total Posts: 3,915 Last Post: 11/18/2009 Member Since: 10/20/2007 |
It's very pretty and looks great on you. I love seeing what old jewellery people find. The necklace just looks beautiful.
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| Posted: 2/1/2009 2:55:32 PM | |
| P: 3/4/2009 12:50:00 PM | |
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TravelingGal Ideal Rock Total Posts: 11,309 Last Post: 11/22/2009 Member Since: 12/29/2004 |
If it's possible, I love this one more! I love it double wrapped...fabulous!
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| Posted: 3/4/2009 12:50:00 PM | |
| P: 3/4/2009 7:56:19 PM | |
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oldmancoyote Ideal Rock Total Posts: 754 Last Post: 6/26/2009 Member Since: 8/22/2008 |
I like them both - the other one I like more as a piece of goldsmith work, but the double wrap on this one suits you wonderfully.
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| Posted: 3/4/2009 7:56:19 PM | |
| P: 3/5/2009 3:32:50 AM | |
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fafa Cut Rock Total Posts: 257 Last Post: 9/18/2009 Member Since: 3/21/2006 |
Thank you everyone. I wear this chain quite a lot lately. I usually double wrapped it with my locket.
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| Posted: 3/5/2009 3:32:50 AM | |
| P: 3/6/2009 7:24:50 AM | |
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AdiS Ideal Rock Total Posts: 1,144 Last Post: 11/23/2009 Member Since: 7/17/2008 |
Oh my, that certainly is one gorgeous chain! The scrollwork is amazing and it really looks great on you!
"And you, my friend, are royally..." [loud horn blast] ~Puss-in-Boots |
| Posted: 3/6/2009 7:24:50 AM | |
| P: 3/6/2009 1:17:49 PM | |
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innerkitten Ideal Rock Total Posts: 2,920 Last Post: 11/21/2009 Member Since: 8/2/2003 |
Thats such a pretty chain. It sure does look old. Can you read all the hallmarks? That might tell you something.
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| Posted: 3/6/2009 1:17:49 PM | |
| P: 3/6/2009 11:37:05 PM | |
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fafa Cut Rock Total Posts: 257 Last Post: 9/18/2009 Member Since: 3/21/2006 |
Thank you, AdiS. The scrollwork look much better in person. innerkitten, I can't read the hallmarks except the eagle heads.
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| Posted: 3/6/2009 11:37:05 PM | |
| P: 3/8/2009 1:17:22 PM | |
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diamondseeker2006 Ideal Rock Total Posts: 17,609 Last Post: 11/18/2009 Member Since: 1/11/2006 |
Wow, gorgeous!!! I'd love to have some long real gold chains like that!
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| Posted: 3/8/2009 1:17:22 PM | |
| P: 3/8/2009 1:20:20 PM | |
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Hudson_Hawk Ideal Rock Total Posts: 4,443 Last Post: 11/20/2009 Member Since: 11/2/2006 |
Love the neck shots!!
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| Posted: 3/8/2009 1:20:20 PM | |
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