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| P: 1/23/2009 9:16:07 AM | |
ibdrinken Rough Rock Total Posts: 41 Last Post: 2/4/2009 Member Since: 1/11/2009 |
Ok so I have narrowed it down to these diamonds, please tell me which one is the better buy. http://www.whiteflash.com/aca_princess/Whiteflash-ACA-Princess-cut-diamond-19109.htm http://www.whiteflash.com/aca_princess/Whiteflash-ACA-Princess-cut-diamond-159847.htm Let me ask this question as well. If i decide to go with just a GIA cert instead of a ACA becuase I am wanting a bigger stone, whats recommend. Any help is much appreciated I know that these will prob have to be called in. http://www.whiteflash.com/princess/Princess-cut-diamond-1848010.htm http://www.whiteflash.com/princess/Princess-cut-diamond-1868520.htm http://www.whiteflash.com/princess/Princess-cut-diamond-1808608.htm |
| Posted: 1/23/2009 9:16:07 AM | |
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| P: 1/23/2009 9:22:04 AM | |
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Lorelei Ideal Rock Total Posts: 34,232 Last Post: 11/24/2009 Member Since: 4/30/2005 |
They are both gorgeous diamonds, my preference runs to the F - but you can't go wrong with either. If you want to go with a GIA Princess then a vendor like WF who has in house diamonds, and can do the analysis on them for you would be of immense help. As you probably know, GIA do not grade Princess for cut at this time, so images and a skilled vendor are extremely useful to help you choose the best ones. ![]() Nothing is more sacred as the bond between horse and rider...no other creature can ever become so emotionally close to a human as a horse. When a horse dies, the memory lives on because an enormous part of his owner's heart, soul, very existence dies also...but that can never be laid to rest, it is not meant to be... - Stephanie M Thorn |
| Posted: 1/23/2009 9:22:04 AM | |
| P: 1/23/2009 9:48:36 AM | |
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Ellen Ideal Rock Total Posts: 22,894 Last Post: 11/6/2009 Member Since: 1/13/2006 |
Hi ib, LOVE your nic. ![]() I have a suggestion, since you mention maybe wanting a bit more size. You can easily lower your color and clarity a bit, which would allow that, without sacrificing any quality/beauty. In very well cut stones, color will be masked some, so you can go lower, and still have a stone appear very white. Also, if a stone is truly eyeclean, it shouldn't matter what the "grade" says it is. Unless of course it a "mind clean" thing, which we understand. So, having said that, here's one you might want to consider. Asking of course if it's eyeclean, by your standards. Don't let the plots and pics scare you, they are not representitive of real life. ![]() Not sure if your budget will allow this one, you would take 2% off listed price. http://www.whiteflash.com/princess/Princess-cut-diamond-1204609.htm# ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ |
| Posted: 1/23/2009 9:48:36 AM | |
| P: 1/23/2009 10:22:00 AM | |
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Kelli Ideal Rock Total Posts: 4,581 Last Post: 11/23/2009 Member Since: 5/27/2008 |
Any ACA will be stunning. I personally would never pay for an E colored stone, but honestly I wouldn't pay for an F eiither. I'd drop the color to maximize size, but I'd probably stick with an ACA because I'm a stickler for cut. Really color sensitive people would disagree with me though. If you want a colorless stone, you won't get much prettier than these!
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| Posted: 1/23/2009 10:22:00 AM | |
| P: 1/23/2009 10:24:47 AM | |
ibdrinken Rough Rock Total Posts: 41 Last Post: 2/4/2009 Member Since: 1/11/2009 |
That not much more and I like it just cause its bigger. I just want it to be eye clean. If the F color white, just dont want a dark diamond thats all.
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| Posted: 1/23/2009 10:24:47 AM | |
| P: 1/23/2009 10:31:24 AM | |
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Lorelei Ideal Rock Total Posts: 34,232 Last Post: 11/24/2009 Member Since: 4/30/2005 |
Date: 1/23/2009 10:24:47 AM Author: ibdrinken That not much more and I like it just cause its bigger. I just want it to be eye clean. If the F color white, just dont want a dark diamond thats all. Thats a nice diamond Miss Ellen picked! Just check it is eyeclean to your standards and it could be an excellent choice. ![]() Nothing is more sacred as the bond between horse and rider...no other creature can ever become so emotionally close to a human as a horse. When a horse dies, the memory lives on because an enormous part of his owner's heart, soul, very existence dies also...but that can never be laid to rest, it is not meant to be... - Stephanie M Thorn |
| Posted: 1/23/2009 10:31:24 AM | |
| P: 1/23/2009 10:53:24 AM | |
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Ellen Ideal Rock Total Posts: 22,894 Last Post: 11/6/2009 Member Since: 1/13/2006 |
Date: 1/23/2009 10:24:47 AM No way, not even close. Author: ibdrinken That not much more and I like it just cause its bigger. I just want it to be eye clean. If the F color white, just dont want a dark diamond thats all.
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| Posted: 1/23/2009 10:53:24 AM | |
| P: 1/23/2009 11:00:41 AM | |
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Kelli Ideal Rock Total Posts: 4,581 Last Post: 11/23/2009 Member Since: 5/27/2008 |
There's no way in the world a GIA or AGS graded F will be dark. Princesses do show a smidge more color than rounds from what I understand, but even a G, H, or I will not be dark.
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| Posted: 1/23/2009 11:00:41 AM | |
| P: 1/23/2009 11:02:38 AM | |
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Lorelei Ideal Rock Total Posts: 34,232 Last Post: 11/24/2009 Member Since: 4/30/2005 |
Date: 1/23/2009 10:31:24 AM Author: Lorelei Date: 1/23/2009 10:24:47 AM Author: ibdrinken That not much more and I like it just cause its bigger. I just want it to be eye clean. If the F color white, just dont want a dark diamond thats all. Thats a nice diamond Miss Ellen picked! Just check it is eyeclean to your standards and it could be an excellent choice. I just wanted to add that an F colour is colourless and will be extremely white and in no way dark. ![]() Nothing is more sacred as the bond between horse and rider...no other creature can ever become so emotionally close to a human as a horse. When a horse dies, the memory lives on because an enormous part of his owner's heart, soul, very existence dies also...but that can never be laid to rest, it is not meant to be... - Stephanie M Thorn |
| Posted: 1/23/2009 11:02:38 AM | |
| P: 1/23/2009 12:56:32 PM | |
ibdrinken Rough Rock Total Posts: 41 Last Post: 2/4/2009 Member Since: 1/11/2009 |
Thanks all for your help, appreciate it alot. You can tell I am a noobie here lol. I just wanted to ask about the clarity of it being a sl1 if that was something to worry about
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| Posted: 1/23/2009 12:56:32 PM | |
| P: 1/23/2009 12:59:16 PM | |
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Lorelei Ideal Rock Total Posts: 34,232 Last Post: 11/24/2009 Member Since: 4/30/2005 |
Date: 1/23/2009 12:56:32 PM Author: ibdrinken Thanks all for your help, appreciate it alot. You can tell I am a noobie here lol. I just wanted to ask about the clarity of it being a sl1 if that was something to worry aboutWe are pleased to be of help to you! As to the clarity, a reliably graded SI1 can be an excellent choice if you aren't fussed about having VS clarity and the SI diamond is verified eyeclean to your standards. SI clarities are not created equal so if you don't want to see any visible inclusions at close scrutiny from any angle, make sure the vendor understands that so you are on the same page so to speak. ![]() Nothing is more sacred as the bond between horse and rider...no other creature can ever become so emotionally close to a human as a horse. When a horse dies, the memory lives on because an enormous part of his owner's heart, soul, very existence dies also...but that can never be laid to rest, it is not meant to be... - Stephanie M Thorn |
| Posted: 1/23/2009 12:59:16 PM | |
| P: 1/23/2009 1:02:41 PM | |
Todd Gray Ideal Rock Total Posts: 593 Last Post: 11/23/2009 Member Since: 1/20/2009 |
Date: 1/23/2009 9:22:04 AM Author: Lorelei As you probably know, GIA do not grade Princess for cut at this time, so images and a skilled vendor are extremely useful to help you choose the best ones. The fact that AGS grades princess cut diamonds for visual performance is an exceptional benefit in terms of increasing the odds of selecting a beautiful princess cut diamond "off paper" pending the physical evaluation process - it has reduced the return ratio of princess cut diamonds dramatically in terms of what is returned to the cutters for not meeting our expectations in terms of visual performance. I would definitely recommend AGS grading for princess cut diamonds over GIA grading in terms of increasing the odds! __________________________ |
| Posted: 1/23/2009 1:02:41 PM | |
| P: 1/23/2009 1:13:58 PM | |
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Ellen Ideal Rock Total Posts: 22,894 Last Post: 11/6/2009 Member Since: 1/13/2006 |
Date: 1/23/2009 12:59:16 PM Agreed! Author: Lorelei Date: 1/23/2009 12:56:32 PM Author: ibdrinken Thanks all for your help, appreciate it alot. You can tell I am a noobie here lol. I just wanted to ask about the clarity of it being a sl1 if that was something to worry aboutWe are pleased to be of help to you! As to the clarity, a reliably graded SI1 can be an excellent choice if you aren't fussed about having VS clarity and the SI diamond is verified eyeclean to your standards. SI clarities are not created equal so if you don't want to see any visible inclusions at close scrutiny from any angle, make sure the vendor understands that so you are on the same page so to speak. And I would agree with Todd, if there is no other info available, that an AGS stone would be a much safer bet. But if we're talking about GIA stones carried by many of our reputable vendors, that offer IS/ASET pics, etc., they can well be a very safe and beautiful choice as well.
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| Posted: 1/23/2009 1:13:58 PM | |
| P: 1/23/2009 1:18:29 PM | |
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Lorelei Ideal Rock Total Posts: 34,232 Last Post: 11/24/2009 Member Since: 4/30/2005 |
Date: 1/23/2009 1:13:58 PM Author: Ellen Date: 1/23/2009 12:59:16 PM Agreed! Author: Lorelei Date: 1/23/2009 12:56:32 PM Author: ibdrinken Thanks all for your help, appreciate it alot. You can tell I am a noobie here lol. I just wanted to ask about the clarity of it being a sl1 if that was something to worry aboutWe are pleased to be of help to you! As to the clarity, a reliably graded SI1 can be an excellent choice if you aren't fussed about having VS clarity and the SI diamond is verified eyeclean to your standards. SI clarities are not created equal so if you don't want to see any visible inclusions at close scrutiny from any angle, make sure the vendor understands that so you are on the same page so to speak. And I would agree with Todd, if there is no other info available, that an AGS stone would be a much safer bet. But if we're talking about GIA stones carried by many of our reputable vendors, that offer IS/ASET pics, etc., they can well be a very safe and beautiful choice as well. ![]() Absolutely!!! ![]() Nothing is more sacred as the bond between horse and rider...no other creature can ever become so emotionally close to a human as a horse. When a horse dies, the memory lives on because an enormous part of his owner's heart, soul, very existence dies also...but that can never be laid to rest, it is not meant to be... - Stephanie M Thorn |
| Posted: 1/23/2009 1:18:29 PM | |
| P: 1/24/2009 9:20:52 AM | |
ibdrinken Rough Rock Total Posts: 41 Last Post: 2/4/2009 Member Since: 1/11/2009 |
Thanks everyone for the weatlh of info much appreciated
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| Posted: 1/24/2009 9:20:52 AM | |
| P: 1/24/2009 9:25:32 AM | |
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Ellen Ideal Rock Total Posts: 22,894 Last Post: 11/6/2009 Member Since: 1/13/2006 |
You're quite welcome ib. Let us know what you decide!
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| Posted: 1/24/2009 9:25:32 AM | |
| P: 1/24/2009 9:30:33 AM | |
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Lorelei Ideal Rock Total Posts: 34,232 Last Post: 11/24/2009 Member Since: 4/30/2005 |
Date: 1/24/2009 9:25:32 AM Author: Ellen You're quite welcome ib. Let us know what you decide! Ditto Ib, keep us posted!
![]() Nothing is more sacred as the bond between horse and rider...no other creature can ever become so emotionally close to a human as a horse. When a horse dies, the memory lives on because an enormous part of his owner's heart, soul, very existence dies also...but that can never be laid to rest, it is not meant to be... - Stephanie M Thorn |
| Posted: 1/24/2009 9:30:33 AM | |
| P: 1/24/2009 9:34:13 AM | |
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hoofbeats95 Ideal Rock Total Posts: 891 Last Post: 10/8/2009 Member Since: 11/23/2008 |
I just want to add that I am pretty color sensitive and I have an ACA that is an F SI2. I love it. No color at all and I cannot see any inclusions. I would ask about a SI1 but chances are if they say it is eye clean then it is. You won't have a dark diamond with an F . . . not even close.
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| Posted: 1/24/2009 9:34:13 AM | |
| P: 1/24/2009 4:38:33 PM | |
ibdrinken Rough Rock Total Posts: 41 Last Post: 2/4/2009 Member Since: 1/11/2009 |
Just got off the phone with chris at wf and I put a deposit down on it . Thanks ellen for finding that wondeful diamond. It is also eyeclean accoding to them. Is there any other questions I should ask him.
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| Posted: 1/24/2009 4:38:33 PM | |
| P: 1/24/2009 4:58:34 PM | |
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Ellen Ideal Rock Total Posts: 22,894 Last Post: 11/6/2009 Member Since: 1/13/2006 |
Date: 1/24/2009 4:38:33 PM Um, how soon can you get it?? Author: ibdrinken Just got off the phone with chris at wf and I put a deposit down on it . Thanks ellen for finding that wondeful diamond. It is also eyeclean accoding to them. Is there any other questions I should ask him. Seriously, I can't think of anything. Are you having it set there?Yay!!! I'm so glad it worked out for you.
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| Posted: 1/24/2009 4:58:34 PM | |
| P: 1/24/2009 5:03:04 PM | |
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Lorelei Ideal Rock Total Posts: 34,232 Last Post: 11/24/2009 Member Since: 4/30/2005 |
Date: 1/24/2009 4:58:34 PM Author: Ellen Date: 1/24/2009 4:38:33 PM Um, how soon can you get it?? Author: ibdrinken Just got off the phone with chris at wf and I put a deposit down on it . Thanks ellen for finding that wondeful diamond. It is also eyeclean accoding to them. Is there any other questions I should ask him. Seriously, I can't think of anything. Are you having it set there?Yay!!! I'm so glad it worked out for you. YIPPEE!!! High five Ellen!!!! ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() MANY congrats Ib!!! ![]() Nothing is more sacred as the bond between horse and rider...no other creature can ever become so emotionally close to a human as a horse. When a horse dies, the memory lives on because an enormous part of his owner's heart, soul, very existence dies also...but that can never be laid to rest, it is not meant to be... - Stephanie M Thorn |
| Posted: 1/24/2009 5:03:04 PM | |
| P: 1/24/2009 5:04:10 PM | |
ibdrinken Rough Rock Total Posts: 41 Last Post: 2/4/2009 Member Since: 1/11/2009 |
Well I am just waiting on my last w-2 so I can call it mine . They are going to set it in this setting http://www.knoxjewelers.biz/index.htm?crn=261&rn=923&action=show_detail I will be buying next week hopefully. Did i do good with the setting or should I go with something else. Thanks again
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| Posted: 1/24/2009 5:04:10 PM | |
| P: 1/24/2009 5:21:43 PM | |
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Ellen Ideal Rock Total Posts: 22,894 Last Post: 11/6/2009 Member Since: 1/13/2006 |
Date: 1/24/2009 5:04:10 PM That's hard to answer, because setting's are so personal. I really like that setting, but that's because I have one almost identical to it! Author: ibdrinken Well I am just waiting on my last w-2 so I can call it mine . They are going to set it in this setting http://www.knoxjewelers.biz/index.htm?crn=261&rn=923&action=show_detail I will be buying next week hopefully. Did i do good with the setting or should I go with something else. Thanks again However, not everybody loves that setting. Many gals like settings that have slimmer bands, which in turn make the stone look bigger and "pop" more. Do you have any idea what your gal likes?Thankies Lore!! ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ |
| Posted: 1/24/2009 5:21:43 PM | |
| P: 1/25/2009 4:46:02 AM | |
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Lorelei Ideal Rock Total Posts: 34,232 Last Post: 11/24/2009 Member Since: 4/30/2005 |
Date: 1/24/2009 5:21:43 PM Author: Ellen Date: 1/24/2009 5:04:10 PM That's hard to answer, because setting's are so personal. I really like that setting, but that's because I have one almost identical to it! Author: ibdrinken Well I am just waiting on my last w-2 so I can call it mine . They are going to set it in this setting http://www.knoxjewelers.biz/index.htm?crn=261&rn=923&action=show_detail I will be buying next week hopefully. Did i do good with the setting or should I go with something else. Thanks again However, not everybody loves that setting. Many gals like settings that have slimmer bands, which in turn make the stone look bigger and 'pop' more. Do you have any idea what your gal likes?Thankies Lore!! Most welcome Mam!!! Ib, I also really like that setting, as El says some ladies like a thinner band to make the diamond pop but it is a matter of taste and that is a classic and elegant setting. ![]() Nothing is more sacred as the bond between horse and rider...no other creature can ever become so emotionally close to a human as a horse. When a horse dies, the memory lives on because an enormous part of his owner's heart, soul, very existence dies also...but that can never be laid to rest, it is not meant to be... - Stephanie M Thorn |
| Posted: 1/25/2009 4:46:02 AM | |
| P: 1/25/2009 9:49:07 AM | |
ibdrinken Rough Rock Total Posts: 41 Last Post: 2/4/2009 Member Since: 1/11/2009 |
Well when we were in Tiffanys in Ny back in sept. She was getting her ring birthstone ring sized and we were looking throught the ring book and I said I liked the Lucida t\ring and she agreed nthat is what she would want. Sorry to ramble on Also the think I am worried about s she has big finngers, her sizw is around an 8-8.25 so I want the ring to be seen.
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| Posted: 1/25/2009 9:49:07 AM | |
| P: 1/25/2009 9:56:57 AM | |
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Lorelei Ideal Rock Total Posts: 34,232 Last Post: 11/24/2009 Member Since: 4/30/2005 |
Date: 1/25/2009 9:49:07 AM Author: ibdrinken Well when we were in Tiffanys in Ny back in sept. She was getting her ring birthstone ring sized and we were looking throught the ring book and I said I liked the Lucida t ing and she agreed nthat is what she would want. Sorry to ramble on Also the think I am worried about s she has big finngers, her sizw is around an 8-8.25 so I want the ring to be seen.Similar size fingers to mine, the ring should look lovely on her! One can carry thicker bands with aplomb with larger fingers!
![]() Nothing is more sacred as the bond between horse and rider...no other creature can ever become so emotionally close to a human as a horse. When a horse dies, the memory lives on because an enormous part of his owner's heart, soul, very existence dies also...but that can never be laid to rest, it is not meant to be... - Stephanie M Thorn |
| Posted: 1/25/2009 9:56:57 AM | |
| P: 1/25/2009 10:02:47 AM | |
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Ellen Ideal Rock Total Posts: 22,894 Last Post: 11/6/2009 Member Since: 1/13/2006 |
Date: 1/25/2009 9:49:07 AM Then I think you have done welll! And you're not rambling! Author: ibdrinken Well when we were in Tiffanys in Ny back in sept. She was getting her ring birthstone ring sized and we were looking throught the ring book and I said I liked the Lucida t ing and she agreed that is what she would want. Sorry to ramble on Also the think I am worried about s she has big finngers, her sizw is around an 8-8.25 so I want the ring to be seen.![]() And ditto Miss Lorelei. It's going to be a lovely ring.
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| Posted: 1/25/2009 10:02:47 AM | |
| P: 1/25/2009 5:54:46 PM | |
marcyc Ideal Rock Total Posts: 7,829 Last Post: 11/23/2009 Member Since: 2/27/2007 |
It's going to be a very lovely ring.
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| Posted: 1/25/2009 5:54:46 PM | |
| P: 1/25/2009 6:06:16 PM | |
ibdrinken Rough Rock Total Posts: 41 Last Post: 2/4/2009 Member Since: 1/11/2009 |
thanks everyone, does anyone know if Wf does videos.
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| Posted: 1/25/2009 6:06:16 PM | |
| P: 2/3/2009 4:58:30 PM | |
ibdrinken Rough Rock Total Posts: 41 Last Post: 2/4/2009 Member Since: 1/11/2009 |
Ok so I have decided to go with a WF setting afetr all. With the help of Chris I have chosen this setting http://www.whiteflash.com/Engagement-Rings/Styles/Solitaire/Hand-Over-Hand-Diamond-Solitaire_1341.htm. I am leaning towards getting Palladium over 18k. What are the opinion on that.
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| Posted: 2/3/2009 4:58:30 PM | |
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