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P:  1/23/2009 9:16:07 AM  
ibdrinken
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Ok so I have narrowed it down to these diamonds, please tell me which one is the better buy.

http://www.whiteflash.com/aca_princess/Whiteflash-ACA-Princess-cut-diamond-19109.htm

http://www.whiteflash.com/aca_princess/Whiteflash-ACA-Princess-cut-diamond-159847.htm

Let me ask this question as well. If i decide to go with just a GIA cert instead of a ACA becuase I am wanting a bigger stone, whats recommend. Any help is much appreciated

I know that these will prob have to be called in.

http://www.whiteflash.com/princess/Princess-cut-diamond-1848010.htm

http://www.whiteflash.com/princess/Princess-cut-diamond-1868520.htm

http://www.whiteflash.com/princess/Princess-cut-diamond-1808608.htm


Posted:  1/23/2009 9:16:07 AM

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P: 1/23/2009 9:22:04 AM
Lorelei
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They are both gorgeous diamonds, my preference runs to the F - but you can't go wrong with either.

If you want to go with a GIA Princess then a vendor like WF who has in house diamonds, and can do the analysis on them for you would be of immense help.  As you probably know, GIA do not grade Princess for cut at this time, so images and a skilled vendor are extremely useful to help you choose the best ones.









Nothing is more sacred as the bond between horse and rider...no other creature can ever become so emotionally close to a human as a horse. When a horse dies, the memory lives on because an enormous part of his owner's heart, soul, very existence dies also...but that can never be laid to rest, it is not meant to be...
- Stephanie M Thorn

Posted:  1/23/2009 9:22:04 AM
P: 1/23/2009 9:48:36 AM
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Hi ib, LOVE your nic.

I have a suggestion, since you mention maybe wanting a bit more size. You can easily lower your color and clarity a bit, which would allow that, without sacrificing any quality/beauty. In very well cut stones, color will be masked some, so you can go lower, and still have a stone appear very white. Also, if a stone is truly eyeclean, it shouldn't matter what the "grade" says it is. Unless of course it a "mind clean" thing, which we understand.

So, having said that, here's one you might want to consider. Asking of course if it's eyeclean, by your standards. Don't let the plots and pics scare you, they are not representitive of real life.

Not sure if your budget will allow this one, you would take 2% off listed price.

http://www.whiteflash.com/princess/Princess-cut-diamond-1204609.htm#

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John Swinton [1829-1901] Chief Editorial Writer of the New York Times (Considered "the Dean of his Profession" by his peers), when asked to toast an 'Independent Press' in a gathering at the National Press Club, circa 1880

"There is no such thing in America as an independent press unless it is in the country towns. You know it, and I know it. There is not one of you who dare express an honest opinion. If you express it you know beforehand that it would never appear in print. I am paid... for keeping my honest opinions out of the paper I am connected with. Others of you are paid similar salaries for doing similar things....

The business of the New York journalist is to distort the truth, to lie outright, to pervert, to vilify, to fawn at the feet of Mammon, and sell his country and race for his daily bread, or for what is about the same thing, his salary. You know this, and I know it and what foolery to be toasting an 'independent press.' We are tools, and the vassals of rich men behind the scenes. We are jumping-jacks. They pull the strings and we dance. Our time, our talents, our lives, our possibilities, all are the property of other men. We are intellectual prostitutes."

Posted:  1/23/2009 9:48:36 AM
P: 1/23/2009 10:22:00 AM
Kelli
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Any ACA will be stunning. I personally would never pay for an E colored stone, but honestly I wouldn't pay for an F eiither. I'd drop the color to maximize size, but I'd probably stick with an ACA because I'm a stickler for cut. Really color sensitive people would disagree with me though.

If you want a colorless stone, you won't get much prettier than these!

Posted:  1/23/2009 10:22:00 AM
P: 1/23/2009 10:24:47 AM
ibdrinken
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That not much more and I like it just cause its bigger.  I just want it to be eye clean. If the F color white, just dont want a dark diamond thats all.

Posted:  1/23/2009 10:24:47 AM
P: 1/23/2009 10:31:24 AM
Lorelei
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Date: 1/23/2009 10:24:47 AM
Author: ibdrinken
That not much more and I like it just cause its bigger. I just want it to be eye clean. If the F color white, just dont want a dark diamond thats all.

Thats a nice diamond Miss Ellen picked!  Just check it is eyeclean to your standards and it could be an excellent choice.









Nothing is more sacred as the bond between horse and rider...no other creature can ever become so emotionally close to a human as a horse. When a horse dies, the memory lives on because an enormous part of his owner's heart, soul, very existence dies also...but that can never be laid to rest, it is not meant to be...
- Stephanie M Thorn

Posted:  1/23/2009 10:31:24 AM
P: 1/23/2009 10:53:24 AM
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Date: 1/23/2009 10:24:47 AM
Author: ibdrinken
That not much more and I like it just cause its bigger. I just want it to be eye clean. If the F color white, just dont want a dark diamond thats all.
No way, not even close.

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

"It is also important for the State to inculcate in its subjects an aversion to any 'conspiracy theory of history' for a search for 'conspiracies' means a search for motives and an attribution of responsibility for historical misdeeds."

-Murray N. Rothbard, in The Anatomy of the State



John Swinton [1829-1901] Chief Editorial Writer of the New York Times (Considered "the Dean of his Profession" by his peers), when asked to toast an 'Independent Press' in a gathering at the National Press Club, circa 1880

"There is no such thing in America as an independent press unless it is in the country towns. You know it, and I know it. There is not one of you who dare express an honest opinion. If you express it you know beforehand that it would never appear in print. I am paid... for keeping my honest opinions out of the paper I am connected with. Others of you are paid similar salaries for doing similar things....

The business of the New York journalist is to distort the truth, to lie outright, to pervert, to vilify, to fawn at the feet of Mammon, and sell his country and race for his daily bread, or for what is about the same thing, his salary. You know this, and I know it and what foolery to be toasting an 'independent press.' We are tools, and the vassals of rich men behind the scenes. We are jumping-jacks. They pull the strings and we dance. Our time, our talents, our lives, our possibilities, all are the property of other men. We are intellectual prostitutes."

Posted:  1/23/2009 10:53:24 AM
P: 1/23/2009 11:00:41 AM
Kelli
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There's no way in the world a GIA or AGS graded F will be dark. Princesses do show a smidge more color than rounds from what I understand, but even a G, H, or I will not be dark.

Posted:  1/23/2009 11:00:41 AM
P: 1/23/2009 11:02:38 AM
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Date: 1/23/2009 10:31:24 AM
Author: Lorelei

Date: 1/23/2009 10:24:47 AM
Author: ibdrinken
That not much more and I like it just cause its bigger. I just want it to be eye clean. If the F color white, just dont want a dark diamond thats all.

Thats a nice diamond Miss Ellen picked! Just check it is eyeclean to your standards and it could be an excellent choice.

I just wanted to add that an F colour is colourless and will be extremely white and in no way dark.









Nothing is more sacred as the bond between horse and rider...no other creature can ever become so emotionally close to a human as a horse. When a horse dies, the memory lives on because an enormous part of his owner's heart, soul, very existence dies also...but that can never be laid to rest, it is not meant to be...
- Stephanie M Thorn

Posted:  1/23/2009 11:02:38 AM
P: 1/23/2009 12:56:32 PM
ibdrinken
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Thanks all for your help, appreciate it alot. You can tell I am a noobie here lol. I just wanted to ask about the clarity of it being a sl1 if that was something to worry about

Posted:  1/23/2009 12:56:32 PM
P: 1/23/2009 12:59:16 PM
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Date: 1/23/2009 12:56:32 PM
Author: ibdrinken
Thanks all for your help, appreciate it alot. You can tell I am a noobie here lol. I just wanted to ask about the clarity of it being a sl1 if that was something to worry about

We are pleased to be of help to you!

As to the clarity, a reliably graded SI1 can be an excellent choice if you aren't fussed about having VS clarity and the SI diamond is verified eyeclean to your standards.  SI clarities are not created equal so if you don't want to see any visible inclusions at close scrutiny from any angle, make sure the vendor understands that so you are on the same page so to speak.









Nothing is more sacred as the bond between horse and rider...no other creature can ever become so emotionally close to a human as a horse. When a horse dies, the memory lives on because an enormous part of his owner's heart, soul, very existence dies also...but that can never be laid to rest, it is not meant to be...
- Stephanie M Thorn

Posted:  1/23/2009 12:59:16 PM
P: 1/23/2009 1:02:41 PM
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Date: 1/23/2009 9:22:04 AM
Author: Lorelei
As you probably know, GIA do not grade Princess for cut at this time, so images and a skilled vendor are extremely useful to help you choose the best ones.


The fact that AGS grades princess cut diamonds for visual performance is an exceptional benefit in terms of increasing the odds of selecting a beautiful princess cut diamond "off paper" pending the physical evaluation process - it has reduced the return ratio of princess cut diamonds dramatically in terms of what is returned to the cutters for not meeting our expectations in terms of visual performance. I would definitely recommend AGS grading for princess cut diamonds over GIA grading in terms of increasing the odds!

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Posted:  1/23/2009 1:02:41 PM
P: 1/23/2009 1:13:58 PM
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Date: 1/23/2009 12:59:16 PM
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Date: 1/23/2009 12:56:32 PM
Author: ibdrinken
Thanks all for your help, appreciate it alot. You can tell I am a noobie here lol. I just wanted to ask about the clarity of it being a sl1 if that was something to worry about

We are pleased to be of help to you!

As to the clarity, a reliably graded SI1 can be an excellent choice if you aren't fussed about having VS clarity and the SI diamond is verified eyeclean to your standards. SI clarities are not created equal so if you don't want to see any visible inclusions at close scrutiny from any angle, make sure the vendor understands that so you are on the same page so to speak.
Agreed!

And I would agree with Todd, if there is no other info available, that an AGS stone would be a much safer bet. But if we're talking about GIA stones carried by many of our reputable vendors, that offer IS/ASET pics, etc., they can well be a very safe and beautiful choice as well.

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

"It is also important for the State to inculcate in its subjects an aversion to any 'conspiracy theory of history' for a search for 'conspiracies' means a search for motives and an attribution of responsibility for historical misdeeds."

-Murray N. Rothbard, in The Anatomy of the State



John Swinton [1829-1901] Chief Editorial Writer of the New York Times (Considered "the Dean of his Profession" by his peers), when asked to toast an 'Independent Press' in a gathering at the National Press Club, circa 1880

"There is no such thing in America as an independent press unless it is in the country towns. You know it, and I know it. There is not one of you who dare express an honest opinion. If you express it you know beforehand that it would never appear in print. I am paid... for keeping my honest opinions out of the paper I am connected with. Others of you are paid similar salaries for doing similar things....

The business of the New York journalist is to distort the truth, to lie outright, to pervert, to vilify, to fawn at the feet of Mammon, and sell his country and race for his daily bread, or for what is about the same thing, his salary. You know this, and I know it and what foolery to be toasting an 'independent press.' We are tools, and the vassals of rich men behind the scenes. We are jumping-jacks. They pull the strings and we dance. Our time, our talents, our lives, our possibilities, all are the property of other men. We are intellectual prostitutes."

Posted:  1/23/2009 1:13:58 PM
P: 1/23/2009 1:18:29 PM
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Date: 1/23/2009 1:13:58 PM
Author: Ellen

Date: 1/23/2009 12:59:16 PM
Author: Lorelei


Date: 1/23/2009 12:56:32 PM
Author: ibdrinken
Thanks all for your help, appreciate it alot. You can tell I am a noobie here lol. I just wanted to ask about the clarity of it being a sl1 if that was something to worry about

We are pleased to be of help to you!

As to the clarity, a reliably graded SI1 can be an excellent choice if you aren't fussed about having VS clarity and the SI diamond is verified eyeclean to your standards. SI clarities are not created equal so if you don't want to see any visible inclusions at close scrutiny from any angle, make sure the vendor understands that so you are on the same page so to speak.
Agreed!

And I would agree with Todd, if there is no other info available, that an AGS stone would be a much safer bet. But if we're talking about GIA stones carried by many of our reputable vendors, that offer IS/ASET pics, etc., they can well be a very safe and beautiful choice as well.

Absolutely!!!









Nothing is more sacred as the bond between horse and rider...no other creature can ever become so emotionally close to a human as a horse. When a horse dies, the memory lives on because an enormous part of his owner's heart, soul, very existence dies also...but that can never be laid to rest, it is not meant to be...
- Stephanie M Thorn

Posted:  1/23/2009 1:18:29 PM
P: 1/24/2009 9:20:52 AM
ibdrinken
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Thanks everyone for the weatlh of info much appreciated

Posted:  1/24/2009 9:20:52 AM
P: 1/24/2009 9:25:32 AM
Ellen
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You're quite welcome ib. Let us know what you decide!

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-Murray N. Rothbard, in The Anatomy of the State



John Swinton [1829-1901] Chief Editorial Writer of the New York Times (Considered "the Dean of his Profession" by his peers), when asked to toast an 'Independent Press' in a gathering at the National Press Club, circa 1880

"There is no such thing in America as an independent press unless it is in the country towns. You know it, and I know it. There is not one of you who dare express an honest opinion. If you express it you know beforehand that it would never appear in print. I am paid... for keeping my honest opinions out of the paper I am connected with. Others of you are paid similar salaries for doing similar things....

The business of the New York journalist is to distort the truth, to lie outright, to pervert, to vilify, to fawn at the feet of Mammon, and sell his country and race for his daily bread, or for what is about the same thing, his salary. You know this, and I know it and what foolery to be toasting an 'independent press.' We are tools, and the vassals of rich men behind the scenes. We are jumping-jacks. They pull the strings and we dance. Our time, our talents, our lives, our possibilities, all are the property of other men. We are intellectual prostitutes."

Posted:  1/24/2009 9:25:32 AM
P: 1/24/2009 9:30:33 AM
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Date: 1/24/2009 9:25:32 AM
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You're quite welcome ib. Let us know what you decide!

Ditto Ib, keep us posted!









Nothing is more sacred as the bond between horse and rider...no other creature can ever become so emotionally close to a human as a horse. When a horse dies, the memory lives on because an enormous part of his owner's heart, soul, very existence dies also...but that can never be laid to rest, it is not meant to be...
- Stephanie M Thorn

Posted:  1/24/2009 9:30:33 AM
P: 1/24/2009 9:34:13 AM
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I just want to add that I am pretty color sensitive and I have an ACA that is an F SI2. I love it. No color at all and I cannot see any inclusions. I would ask about a SI1 but chances are if they say it is eye clean then it is. You won't have a dark diamond with an F . . . not even close.

Posted:  1/24/2009 9:34:13 AM
P: 1/24/2009 4:38:33 PM
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Just got off the phone with chris at wf and I put a deposit down on it. Thanks ellen for finding that wondeful diamond. It is also eyeclean accoding to them. Is there any other questions I should ask him.

Posted:  1/24/2009 4:38:33 PM
P: 1/24/2009 4:58:34 PM
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Date: 1/24/2009 4:38:33 PM
Author: ibdrinken
Just got off the phone with chris at wf and I put a deposit down on it. Thanks ellen for finding that wondeful diamond. It is also eyeclean accoding to them. Is there any other questions I should ask him.
Um, how soon can you get it?? Seriously, I can't think of anything. Are you having it set there?


Yay!!! I'm so glad it worked out for you.

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-Murray N. Rothbard, in The Anatomy of the State



John Swinton [1829-1901] Chief Editorial Writer of the New York Times (Considered "the Dean of his Profession" by his peers), when asked to toast an 'Independent Press' in a gathering at the National Press Club, circa 1880

"There is no such thing in America as an independent press unless it is in the country towns. You know it, and I know it. There is not one of you who dare express an honest opinion. If you express it you know beforehand that it would never appear in print. I am paid... for keeping my honest opinions out of the paper I am connected with. Others of you are paid similar salaries for doing similar things....

The business of the New York journalist is to distort the truth, to lie outright, to pervert, to vilify, to fawn at the feet of Mammon, and sell his country and race for his daily bread, or for what is about the same thing, his salary. You know this, and I know it and what foolery to be toasting an 'independent press.' We are tools, and the vassals of rich men behind the scenes. We are jumping-jacks. They pull the strings and we dance. Our time, our talents, our lives, our possibilities, all are the property of other men. We are intellectual prostitutes."

Posted:  1/24/2009 4:58:34 PM
P: 1/24/2009 5:03:04 PM
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Date: 1/24/2009 4:58:34 PM
Author: Ellen

Date: 1/24/2009 4:38:33 PM
Author: ibdrinken
Just got off the phone with chris at wf and I put a deposit down on it. Thanks ellen for finding that wondeful diamond. It is also eyeclean accoding to them. Is there any other questions I should ask him.
Um, how soon can you get it?? Seriously, I can't think of anything. Are you having it set there?


Yay!!! I'm so glad it worked out for you.

YIPPEE!!!  High five Ellen!!!!

MANY congrats Ib!!!









Nothing is more sacred as the bond between horse and rider...no other creature can ever become so emotionally close to a human as a horse. When a horse dies, the memory lives on because an enormous part of his owner's heart, soul, very existence dies also...but that can never be laid to rest, it is not meant to be...
- Stephanie M Thorn

Posted:  1/24/2009 5:03:04 PM
P: 1/24/2009 5:04:10 PM
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Well I am just waiting on my last w-2 so I can call it mine. They are going to set it in this setting http://www.knoxjewelers.biz/index.htm?crn=261&rn=923&action=show_detail I will be buying next week hopefully. Did i do good with the setting or should I go with something else. Thanks again

Posted:  1/24/2009 5:04:10 PM
P: 1/24/2009 5:21:43 PM
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Date: 1/24/2009 5:04:10 PM
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Well I am just waiting on my last w-2 so I can call it mine. They are going to set it in this setting http://www.knoxjewelers.biz/index.htm?crn=261&rn=923&action=show_detail I will be buying next week hopefully. Did i do good with the setting or should I go with something else. Thanks again
That's hard to answer, because setting's are so personal. I really like that setting, but that's because I have one almost identical to it! However, not everybody loves that setting. Many gals like settings that have slimmer bands, which in turn make the stone look bigger and "pop" more. Do you have any idea what your gal likes?


Thankies Lore!!

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"It is also important for the State to inculcate in its subjects an aversion to any 'conspiracy theory of history' for a search for 'conspiracies' means a search for motives and an attribution of responsibility for historical misdeeds."

-Murray N. Rothbard, in The Anatomy of the State



John Swinton [1829-1901] Chief Editorial Writer of the New York Times (Considered "the Dean of his Profession" by his peers), when asked to toast an 'Independent Press' in a gathering at the National Press Club, circa 1880

"There is no such thing in America as an independent press unless it is in the country towns. You know it, and I know it. There is not one of you who dare express an honest opinion. If you express it you know beforehand that it would never appear in print. I am paid... for keeping my honest opinions out of the paper I am connected with. Others of you are paid similar salaries for doing similar things....

The business of the New York journalist is to distort the truth, to lie outright, to pervert, to vilify, to fawn at the feet of Mammon, and sell his country and race for his daily bread, or for what is about the same thing, his salary. You know this, and I know it and what foolery to be toasting an 'independent press.' We are tools, and the vassals of rich men behind the scenes. We are jumping-jacks. They pull the strings and we dance. Our time, our talents, our lives, our possibilities, all are the property of other men. We are intellectual prostitutes."

Posted:  1/24/2009 5:21:43 PM
P: 1/25/2009 4:46:02 AM
Lorelei
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Date: 1/24/2009 5:21:43 PM
Author: Ellen

Date: 1/24/2009 5:04:10 PM
Author: ibdrinken
Well I am just waiting on my last w-2 so I can call it mine. They are going to set it in this setting http://www.knoxjewelers.biz/index.htm?crn=261&rn=923&action=show_detail I will be buying next week hopefully. Did i do good with the setting or should I go with something else. Thanks again
That's hard to answer, because setting's are so personal. I really like that setting, but that's because I have one almost identical to it! However, not everybody loves that setting. Many gals like settings that have slimmer bands, which in turn make the stone look bigger and 'pop' more. Do you have any idea what your gal likes?


Thankies Lore!!

Most welcome Mam!!!

Ib, I also really like that setting, as El says some ladies like a thinner band to make the diamond pop but it is a matter of taste and that is a classic and elegant setting.









Nothing is more sacred as the bond between horse and rider...no other creature can ever become so emotionally close to a human as a horse. When a horse dies, the memory lives on because an enormous part of his owner's heart, soul, very existence dies also...but that can never be laid to rest, it is not meant to be...
- Stephanie M Thorn

Posted:  1/25/2009 4:46:02 AM
P: 1/25/2009 9:49:07 AM
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Well when we were in Tiffanys in Ny back in sept. She was getting her ring birthstone ring sized and we were looking throught the ring book and I said I liked the Lucida t\ring and she agreed nthat is what she would want. Sorry to ramble on Also the think I am worried about s she has big finngers, her sizw is around an 8-8.25 so I want the ring to be seen.

Posted:  1/25/2009 9:49:07 AM
P: 1/25/2009 9:56:57 AM
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Date: 1/25/2009 9:49:07 AM
Author: ibdrinken
Well when we were in Tiffanys in Ny back in sept. She was getting her ring birthstone ring sized and we were looking throught the ring book and I said I liked the Lucida t ing and she agreed nthat is what she would want. Sorry to ramble on Also the think I am worried about s she has big finngers, her sizw is around an 8-8.25 so I want the ring to be seen.

Similar size fingers to mine, the ring should look lovely on her!  One can carry thicker bands with aplomb with larger fingers!









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Posted:  1/25/2009 9:56:57 AM
P: 1/25/2009 10:02:47 AM
Ellen
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Date: 1/25/2009 9:49:07 AM
Author: ibdrinken
Well when we were in Tiffanys in Ny back in sept. She was getting her ring birthstone ring sized and we were looking throught the ring book and I said I liked the Lucida t ing and she agreed that is what she would want. Sorry to ramble on Also the think I am worried about s she has big finngers, her sizw is around an 8-8.25 so I want the ring to be seen.
Then I think you have done welll! And you're not rambling!


And ditto Miss Lorelei. It's going to be a lovely ring.

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Posted:  1/25/2009 10:02:47 AM
P: 1/25/2009 5:54:46 PM
marcyc
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It's going to be a very lovely ring.



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Posted:  1/25/2009 5:54:46 PM
P: 1/25/2009 6:06:16 PM
ibdrinken
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thanks everyone, does anyone know if Wf does videos.

Posted:  1/25/2009 6:06:16 PM
P: 2/3/2009 4:58:30 PM
ibdrinken
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Ok so I have decided to go with a WF setting afetr all. With the help of Chris I have chosen this setting http://www.whiteflash.com/Engagement-Rings/Styles/Solitaire/Hand-Over-Hand-Diamond-Solitaire_1341.htm. I am leaning towards getting Palladium over 18k. What are the opinion on that.

Posted:  2/3/2009 4:58:30 PM

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