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P:  1/16/2009 11:26:48 PM  
SandraPaneczko
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Hi guys,

I know a lot of you only by your pictures, rings, or responses to mine and other posts so... I'm curious to know your political party.

Are you Democrat or Republican? (those who are comfortable sharing)

I know some people who wont even tell me because they assume the conversation will become a debate but I enjoy it, as long as we stay civil.

 


Posted:  1/16/2009 11:26:48 PM

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P: 1/16/2009 11:48:18 PM
Dancing Fire
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my guess...70% Democrats here on PS.

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Posted:  1/16/2009 11:48:18 PM
P: 1/17/2009 12:39:55 AM
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I am a republican but voted for Obama. 

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Posted:  1/17/2009 12:39:55 AM
P: 1/17/2009 12:53:38 AM
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Registered Democrat, here!

Posted:  1/17/2009 12:53:38 AM
P: 1/17/2009 12:55:25 AM
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Date: 1/16/2009 11:48:18 PM
Author: Dancing Fire
my guess...70% Democrats here on PS.


No way. Remember your poll? 'Pubs were 'ahead' the last time I checked. Maybe they're just the rare, quiet kind of conservative.

Posted:  1/17/2009 12:55:25 AM
P: 1/17/2009 6:11:00 AM
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Date: 1/17/2009 12:55:25 AM
Author: EBree

Date: 1/16/2009 11:48:18 PM
Author: Dancing Fire
my guess...70% Democrats here on PS.


No way. Remember your poll? 'Pubs were 'ahead' the last time I checked. Maybe they're just the rare, quiet kind of conservative.
MW,Karen and thing2 did all the talking    the conservatives kept quiet. well...except for HollyS whom was fighting a losing battle.

it is always harder to find a "mind clean" stone than a eye clean stone.

Posted:  1/17/2009 6:11:00 AM
P: 1/17/2009 8:44:38 AM
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I'm a registered independent.

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Posted:  1/17/2009 8:44:38 AM
P: 1/17/2009 10:44:50 AM
diamondseeker2006
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I am also registered Unaffiliated/Independent.  That is necessary because of the dynamics of our local politics where democrats have dominated for many years. We gave financial support to our current Democrat mayor who is a good friend.  However, in national elections, I am more conservative on some issues and most often vote Republican. However, I look at every candidate individually and that is why I am registered Unaffiliated.




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Posted:  1/17/2009 10:44:50 AM
P: 1/17/2009 1:09:50 PM
strmrdr
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my favorite is the kick em all out party.
or the none of the above party.

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Posted:  1/17/2009 1:09:50 PM
P: 1/17/2009 1:32:08 PM
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Date: 1/16/2009 11:26:48 PM
Author:SandraPaneczko
Hi guys,

I know a lot of you only by your pictures, rings, or responses to mine and other posts so... I'm curious to know your political party.

Are you Democrat or Republican? (those who are comfortable sharing)

I know some people who wont even tell me because they assume the conversation will become a debate but I enjoy it, as long as we stay civil.
Ha! You haven't read much in here have ya??


I vote Democrat, but in reality, I lean both ways.

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John Swinton [1829-1901] Chief Editorial Writer of the New York Times (Considered "the Dean of his Profession" by his peers), when asked to toast an 'Independent Press' in a gathering at the National Press Club, circa 1880

"There is no such thing in America as an independent press unless it is in the country towns. You know it, and I know it. There is not one of you who dare express an honest opinion. If you express it you know beforehand that it would never appear in print. I am paid... for keeping my honest opinions out of the paper I am connected with. Others of you are paid similar salaries for doing similar things....

The business of the New York journalist is to distort the truth, to lie outright, to pervert, to vilify, to fawn at the feet of Mammon, and sell his country and race for his daily bread, or for what is about the same thing, his salary. You know this, and I know it and what foolery to be toasting an 'independent press.' We are tools, and the vassals of rich men behind the scenes. We are jumping-jacks. They pull the strings and we dance. Our time, our talents, our lives, our possibilities, all are the property of other men. We are intellectual prostitutes."

Posted:  1/17/2009 1:32:08 PM
P: 1/17/2009 1:41:20 PM
diamondseeker2006
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Date: 1/17/2009 1:09:50 PM
Author: strmrdr
my favorite is the kick em all out party.
or the none of the above party.


Haha! I might re-register for that!




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Posted:  1/17/2009 1:41:20 PM
P: 1/17/2009 6:03:39 PM
WishfulThinking
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I am neither, really. I register as a Democrat because it's the party I usually vote for in large-scale elections, and I like to have a voice in the primaries. The most liberal Democratic candidates that get trounced early on are closest to my views in more mainstream politics, but what most people think of as the "Democratic Party" is a pretty decent stretch from my personal views.

Posted:  1/17/2009 6:03:39 PM
P: 1/17/2009 6:13:55 PM
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Date:
1/17/2009 12:55:25 AM
Author: EBree



Date:
1/16/2009 11:48:18 PM
Author: Dancing Fire

my guess...70% Democrats here on PS.



No way. Remember your poll? 'Pubs were 'ahead' the last time I checked.
 





But not all Pricescopers who voted in the real elections voted in DF's poll ;-).


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Posted:  1/17/2009 6:13:55 PM
P: 1/17/2009 6:50:34 PM
AllieGator
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Staunch Democrat...I campaigned for Obama, am the president of Young Democrats at my school, but I have alot of friends who are republicans and/or more conservative then I am. So I can't be that much of a bleeding heart liberal.

Posted:  1/17/2009 6:50:34 PM
P: 1/18/2009 1:15:47 AM
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Date: 1/17/2009 6:11:00 AM
Author: Dancing Fire


Date: 1/17/2009 12:55:25 AM
Author: EBree



Date: 1/16/2009 11:48:18 PM
Author: Dancing Fire
my guess...70% Democrats here on PS.


No way. Remember your poll? 'Pubs were 'ahead' the last time I checked. Maybe they're just the rare, quiet kind of conservative.
MW,Karen and thing2 did all the talking the conservatives kept quiet. well...except for HollyS whom was fighting a losing battle.

I coulda used a little help.  Every now and then.  Ya know? 

In my state, you don't have to 'register' as any particular party.  I vote for the candidate, not the party.  DH and I had both Republican and Democrat campaign signs in our front yard this fall.  Karen can now pick herself up off the floor.

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Posted:  1/18/2009 1:15:47 AM
P: 1/18/2009 9:20:03 AM
ksinger
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It takes a lot more than that to knock me to the ground.

I see it as just more evidence of how weak the parties really are in America.  How many times have you heard someone IRL, or on this board say, "I'm a registered [insert party here]....BUT, I don't vote the party, I vote the PERSON.  I really wonder then, why the vast interest in official party affiliation - other than a neat and tidy way to pigeonhole people and so we all know how to line up for "the team".  I mean, heck, it clearly doesn't actually MEAN anything, to judge by the responses most people give.  I wonder how many of us, when we first registered to vote, even KNEW what was the platform of the party we registered with, other than in the most general way, especially those of us who came of age before the advent of the omnipresent personal computer, let alone the internet, where everything is simply one click away, instead of requiring any real effort to know.  I know when I registered at 18, I did not.

At one of the DH's in-services, he got a cool cool book entitled "The Enduring Debate - Classic and Contemporary Readings in American Politics".  In it is a very interesting essay on the decline of the power of the parties in US politics.  A fascinating read, and resonated quite well as explanation for why we see many of the problems that we do in our politics. 

A tiny excerpt:

"The increased fragmentation of the party in government makes it more difficult for government officeholders to work together than in times past (not that is has ever been terribly easy).  Voters meanwhile have a more difficult time attributing responsibility for government performance, and this only further fragments party control.  The result is lessened collective responsibility in the system.

What has taken up the slack left by weakening of the traditional [party] determinants of congressional voting?  It appears that a variety of personal and local influences now play a major role in citizen evaluations of their representatives.
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The withering away of  the party organizations and the weakening of party in the electorate have begun to show up as disarray in the party in government.  As the electoral fates of congressmen and the president have diverged, their incentives to cooperate have diverged as well.  Congressmen have little personal incentive to bear any risk in their president's behalf, since they no longer expect to gain much from his successes or suffer much from his failures.  Only those who personally agree with the president's program and/or those who find the program well suited for their particular district support the president.  And there are not enough of these to construct the coalitions necessary for action on the major issues now facing the country.  By holding only the president responsible for national conditions, the electorate enables officialdom as a whole to escape responsibility.  This situation lies at the root of many of the problems that now plague American public life."

end excerpt

Naturally, there was lots more than that.  A very thought provoking piece.....

Posted:  1/18/2009 9:20:03 AM
P: 1/18/2009 10:37:58 AM
thing2of2
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Democrat, of course! Although like Wishful, most of the well-known Democrats aren't liberal enough for me.

Posted:  1/18/2009 10:37:58 AM
P: 1/18/2009 11:24:45 AM
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Date: 1/18/2009 10:37:58 AM
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Democrat, of course! Although like Wishful, most of the well-known Democrats aren't liberal enough for me.


I wonder what that means.....exactly what would you have them do that they are not doing?

Posted:  1/18/2009 11:24:45 AM
P: 1/18/2009 12:23:33 PM
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I'm "decline to state" which apparently translates to Independent.  I proudly and enthusiatically voted for Obama.  I consider myself to be transpartisan.

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Posted:  1/18/2009 12:23:33 PM
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Date: 1/18/2009 11:24:45 AM
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Date: 1/18/2009 10:37:58 AM

Author: thing2of2

Democrat, of course! Although like Wishful, most of the well-known Democrats aren't liberal enough for me.


I wonder what that means.....exactly what would you have them do that they are not doing?


Gay marriage is the first thing. I think it should be 100% legal and I can't stand it that most Democrats say they're against gay marriage but they're not opposed to civil unions. I think it's a case of separate but equal, and that didn't work out so well the last time we tried it.

Posted:  1/18/2009 12:28:00 PM
P: 1/18/2009 12:31:16 PM
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heavy sigh:  the only choices are Dem and Rep?  me, i'm Green. 

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Posted:  1/18/2009 12:31:16 PM
P: 1/18/2009 12:44:41 PM
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Date: 1/18/2009 12:31:16 PM
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heavy sigh: the only choices are Dem and Rep? me, i'm Green.

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And you wear it well!

I switched from the Green Party to the independent after I was disenfranchised during the primary from being able to vote between Hillary and Obama.    I hadn't even remembered that I previously switched to Green Party from my prior Independant Party registration. 

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Posted:  1/18/2009 12:44:41 PM
P: 1/18/2009 3:13:53 PM
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I'm registered Independent . I tend to be moderate on fiscal issues and liberal on social issues/civil rights/etc.. I'm also a "globalist" by which I mean that I place a good deal of importance on our (the U.S.) relationships with other countries and our standing in the world community.

You can probably guess that the last 8 years have been tough for me!

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Posted:  1/18/2009 3:13:53 PM
P: 1/18/2009 7:18:58 PM
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I think I sit in the middle..I'm conservative about some things, but then I'm more liberal on others. And even then, I don't know that it's a case, for me, of being extreme far right or extreme far left on any one thing. With the exception of the local elections where I generally know most of the people involved, I feel like I'm forced to choose between the lesser of two evils. (or the evil of two lessers, as someone on another forum called it)

Posted:  1/18/2009 7:18:58 PM
P: 1/18/2009 7:33:13 PM
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Karen makes a good point about the growing ineffectiveness and lessening influence on the average voter by the national parties. At least I hope she's right about that. Sometimes I think we all wish they would just simply 'shut up'.  An ordinary American is perfectly capable of understanding the issues, without the party spin doctors, and making their decisions based upon what they feel is best for themselves and our country.  Isn't that what a democracy is all about?  We won't always agree, and we don't have to; but by and large, most of us understand the importance of 'government FOR the people, BY the people'.  And goodness knows, both parties have been guilty of trying to shove government down our throats, in bites we don't want to take.

No matter our party affiliation, we need to remember to vote with our minds,hearts, and souls; and to put our money, time, and voice to causes we believe in.  

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Posted:  1/18/2009 7:33:13 PM
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Date: 1/17/2009 1:09:50 PM
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my favorite is the kick em all out party.
or the none of the above party.


Hehe, I resonate with this. I'm a libertarian, but voted for the constitution party in the last election...I can't remember the last time I voted for a democrat or republican for any office.

Posted:  1/18/2009 10:18:03 PM
P: 1/19/2009 8:37:50 AM
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Date: 1/18/2009 7:18:58 PM
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I think I sit in the middle..I'm conservative about some things, but then I'm more liberal on others. And even then, I don't know that it's a case, for me, of being extreme far right or extreme far left on any one thing. With the exception of the local elections where I generally know most of the people involved, I feel like I'm forced to choose between the lesser of two evils. (or the evil of two lessers, as someone on another forum called it)
Yes.  It's called compromise.  It has always been the strength of our form of government. 

Posted:  1/19/2009 8:37:50 AM
P: 1/19/2009 11:45:39 AM
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Date: 1/18/2009 7:33:13 PM
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Karen makes a good point about the growing ineffectiveness and lessening influence on the average voter by the national parties. At least I hope she's right about that. Sometimes I think we all wish they would just simply 'shut up'. An ordinary American is perfectly capable of understanding the issues, without the party spin doctors, and making their decisions based upon what they feel is best for themselves and our country. Isn't that what a democracy is all about? We won't always agree, and we don't have to; but by and large, most of us understand the importance of 'government FOR the people, BY the people'. And goodness knows, both parties have been guilty of trying to shove government down our throats, in bites we don't want to take.

No matter our party affiliation, we need to remember to vote with our minds,hearts, and souls; and to put our money, time, and voice to causes we believe in.
OMG...I agree with Holly  Well said, indeed!  I am a registered Independent.

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Posted:  1/19/2009 11:45:39 AM
P: 1/19/2009 1:11:06 PM
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Date: 1/18/2009 12:44:41 PM
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Date: 1/18/2009 12:31:16 PM
Author: movie zombie
heavy sigh: the only choices are Dem and Rep? me, i'm Green.

movie zombie

And you wear it well!

I switched from the Green Party to the independent after I was disenfranchised during the primary from being able to vote between Hillary and Obama. I hadn't even remembered that I previously switched to Green Party from my prior Independant Party registration.

sometimes i cheat and change registration so i can effect the primary....then switch back to Green.

movie zombie

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Posted:  1/19/2009 1:11:06 PM
P: 1/19/2009 1:11:51 PM
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Date: 1/19/2009 11:45:39 AM
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Date: 1/18/2009 7:33:13 PM
Author: HollyS
Karen makes a good point about the growing ineffectiveness and lessening influence on the average voter by the national parties. At least I hope she's right about that. Sometimes I think we all wish they would just simply 'shut up'. An ordinary American is perfectly capable of understanding the issues, without the party spin doctors, and making their decisions based upon what they feel is best for themselves and our country. Isn't that what a democracy is all about? We won't always agree, and we don't have to; but by and large, most of us understand the importance of 'government FOR the people, BY the people'. And goodness knows, both parties have been guilty of trying to shove government down our throats, in bites we don't want to take.

No matter our party affiliation, we need to remember to vote with our minds,hearts, and souls; and to put our money, time, and voice to causes we believe in.
OMG...I agree with Holly Well said, indeed! I am a registered Independent.

and another OMG i agree with Holly!  indeed, very sell stated!

movie zombie

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Posted:  1/19/2009 1:11:51 PM
P: 1/19/2009 1:49:27 PM
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Date: 1/19/2009 1:11:06 PM
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Date: 1/18/2009 12:44:41 PM
Author: miraclesrule


Date: 1/18/2009 12:31:16 PM
Author: movie zombie
heavy sigh: the only choices are Dem and Rep? me, i'm Green.

movie zombie

And you wear it well!

I switched from the Green Party to the independent after I was disenfranchised during the primary from being able to vote between Hillary and Obama. I hadn't even remembered that I previously switched to Green Party from my prior Independant Party registration.

sometimes i cheat and change registration so i can effect the primary....then switch back to Green.

movie zombie


I do, too!  But I don't consider it cheating; it's strategy.  And it works.  Sometimes it's because of who's running in a more local race in that primary; I hate how they put those races on the same day as a national election. 

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