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 Madoff investor commits suicide.

P:  12/23/2008 6:23:47 PM  
Ellen
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I have no words. It's so sad.

Mr. Madoff has some real blood on his hands....


http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20081223/ap_on_bi_ge/madoff_investor_suicide


NEW YORK – The founder of an investment fund that lost $1.4 billion with Bernard Madoff was discovered dead Tuesday after committing suicide at his Madison Avenue office, marking a grim turn in a scandal that has left investors around the world in financial ruin.
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"It is also important for the State to inculcate in its subjects an aversion to any 'conspiracy theory of history' for a search for 'conspiracies' means a search for motives and an attribution of responsibility for historical misdeeds."

-Murray N. Rothbard, in The Anatomy of the State



John Swinton [1829-1901] Chief Editorial Writer of the New York Times (Considered "the Dean of his Profession" by his peers), when asked to toast an 'Independent Press' in a gathering at the National Press Club, circa 1880

"There is no such thing in America as an independent press unless it is in the country towns. You know it, and I know it. There is not one of you who dare express an honest opinion. If you express it you know beforehand that it would never appear in print. I am paid... for keeping my honest opinions out of the paper I am connected with. Others of you are paid similar salaries for doing similar things....

The business of the New York journalist is to distort the truth, to lie outright, to pervert, to vilify, to fawn at the feet of Mammon, and sell his country and race for his daily bread, or for what is about the same thing, his salary. You know this, and I know it and what foolery to be toasting an 'independent press.' We are tools, and the vassals of rich men behind the scenes. We are jumping-jacks. They pull the strings and we dance. Our time, our talents, our lives, our possibilities, all are the property of other men. We are intellectual prostitutes."
Posted:  12/23/2008 6:23:47 PM

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P: 12/23/2008 7:46:23 PM
Tuckins1
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Horrible news. His poor family!











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Posted:  12/23/2008 7:46:23 PM
P: 12/23/2008 7:52:24 PM
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Date: 12/23/2008 7:46:23 PM
Author: Tuckins1
Horrible news. His poor family!
I agree; I feel for his family.  I thought about this story all afternoon. . .

Skippy






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Posted:  12/23/2008 7:52:24 PM
P: 12/23/2008 8:08:27 PM
Kaleigh
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I am heartbroken for this investor.  My heart goes out to his family.   I will be praying for them.  I could say more but won't because I am so angry.

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Posted:  12/23/2008 8:08:27 PM
P: 12/23/2008 8:20:57 PM
Ellen
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Date: 12/23/2008 8:08:27 PM
Author: Kaleigh
I am heartbroken for this investor. My heart goes out to his family. I will be praying for them. I could say more but won't because I am so angry.
So am I. At ALL the GREEDY people, that have caused so much heartache and mess in this country. I want to DO something, but I don't know what.

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"It is also important for the State to inculcate in its subjects an aversion to any 'conspiracy theory of history' for a search for 'conspiracies' means a search for motives and an attribution of responsibility for historical misdeeds."

-Murray N. Rothbard, in The Anatomy of the State



John Swinton [1829-1901] Chief Editorial Writer of the New York Times (Considered "the Dean of his Profession" by his peers), when asked to toast an 'Independent Press' in a gathering at the National Press Club, circa 1880

"There is no such thing in America as an independent press unless it is in the country towns. You know it, and I know it. There is not one of you who dare express an honest opinion. If you express it you know beforehand that it would never appear in print. I am paid... for keeping my honest opinions out of the paper I am connected with. Others of you are paid similar salaries for doing similar things....

The business of the New York journalist is to distort the truth, to lie outright, to pervert, to vilify, to fawn at the feet of Mammon, and sell his country and race for his daily bread, or for what is about the same thing, his salary. You know this, and I know it and what foolery to be toasting an 'independent press.' We are tools, and the vassals of rich men behind the scenes. We are jumping-jacks. They pull the strings and we dance. Our time, our talents, our lives, our possibilities, all are the property of other men. We are intellectual prostitutes."

Posted:  12/23/2008 8:20:57 PM
P: 12/23/2008 8:23:09 PM
strmrdr
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Is it 1929 yet?

Prayers outgoing for his family.

........... Karl has joined the diamond trade and is now posting as Karl_K

Posted:  12/23/2008 8:23:09 PM
P: 12/23/2008 8:39:35 PM
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This is so sad.

My mom complains all the time about low returns compared to what others are offering and I always tell her, "Mom, if someone promises incredible returns and it sounds too good to be true... IT IS."  That was a house of cards waiting to be blown down.  Unfortunately, it took people's lives along with it.  Spitzer also was bilked... or his family's real estate firm at the very least.   

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Posted:  12/23/2008 8:39:35 PM
P: 12/23/2008 8:48:53 PM
Kaleigh
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We haven't seen the bulk of it yet.  Tragic and so sad.

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Posted:  12/23/2008 8:48:53 PM
P: 12/23/2008 8:49:59 PM
ChargerGrrl
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wow
once again, greed wins

Posted:  12/23/2008 8:49:59 PM
P: 12/24/2008 1:08:53 AM
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my #1 rule when it comes to investing $$$'s...

NEVER let somebody else play with your money if i'm gonna lose money i rather lose it myself,then i got nobody else to blame but myself.  

it is always harder to find a "mind clean" stone than a eye clean stone.

Posted:  12/24/2008 1:08:53 AM
P: 12/24/2008 12:33:57 PM
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Date: 12/23/2008 8:48:53 PM
Author: Kaleigh
We haven't seen the bulk of it yet. Tragic and so sad.

I worry about this, it certainly will not be the last sham to be exposed in the coming months. 

This is such a tragic loss.

Posted:  12/24/2008 12:33:57 PM
P: 12/24/2008 4:11:49 PM
bee*
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That's so sad. My condolences to his family. It's such a worrying time.

Posted:  12/24/2008 4:11:49 PM
P: 1/30/2009 12:08:41 PM
Ellen
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I just heard on the news that Madoff is COMPLAINING that he's too confined staying in his apt. 

This, from a man that ripped off his clients, ripped off his friends, and even ripped off his SISTER. And let us not forget, caused this poor man to commit suicide.

And he's getting cabin fever? They should throw him in jail and pitch the key. And make it an extra small cell.

I have no words. The GALL.

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"It is also important for the State to inculcate in its subjects an aversion to any 'conspiracy theory of history' for a search for 'conspiracies' means a search for motives and an attribution of responsibility for historical misdeeds."

-Murray N. Rothbard, in The Anatomy of the State



John Swinton [1829-1901] Chief Editorial Writer of the New York Times (Considered "the Dean of his Profession" by his peers), when asked to toast an 'Independent Press' in a gathering at the National Press Club, circa 1880

"There is no such thing in America as an independent press unless it is in the country towns. You know it, and I know it. There is not one of you who dare express an honest opinion. If you express it you know beforehand that it would never appear in print. I am paid... for keeping my honest opinions out of the paper I am connected with. Others of you are paid similar salaries for doing similar things....

The business of the New York journalist is to distort the truth, to lie outright, to pervert, to vilify, to fawn at the feet of Mammon, and sell his country and race for his daily bread, or for what is about the same thing, his salary. You know this, and I know it and what foolery to be toasting an 'independent press.' We are tools, and the vassals of rich men behind the scenes. We are jumping-jacks. They pull the strings and we dance. Our time, our talents, our lives, our possibilities, all are the property of other men. We are intellectual prostitutes."

Posted:  1/30/2009 12:08:41 PM
P: 1/30/2009 12:11:19 PM
tlh
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I think a better punnishment would be to throw paris hilton in there with him! 

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Posted:  1/30/2009 12:11:19 PM
P: 1/30/2009 12:12:35 PM
Kaleigh
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Date: 1/30/2009 12:08:41 PM
Author: Ellen
I just heard on the news that Madoff is COMPLAINING that he's too confined staying in his apt.

This, from a man that ripped off his clients, ripped off his friends, and even ripped off his SISTER. And let us not forget, caused this poor man to commit suicide.

And he's getting cabin fever? They should throw him in jail and pitch the key. And make it an extra small cell.

I have no words. The GALL.
WTF???

I have no words either Miss Ellen.

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Posted:  1/30/2009 12:12:35 PM
P: 1/30/2009 12:12:38 PM
Ellen
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Date: 1/30/2009 12:11:19 PM
Author: tlh
I think a better punnishment would be to throw paris hilton in there with him!
LOL What? I don't get it, and yet, it was still funny!

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"It is also important for the State to inculcate in its subjects an aversion to any 'conspiracy theory of history' for a search for 'conspiracies' means a search for motives and an attribution of responsibility for historical misdeeds."

-Murray N. Rothbard, in The Anatomy of the State



John Swinton [1829-1901] Chief Editorial Writer of the New York Times (Considered "the Dean of his Profession" by his peers), when asked to toast an 'Independent Press' in a gathering at the National Press Club, circa 1880

"There is no such thing in America as an independent press unless it is in the country towns. You know it, and I know it. There is not one of you who dare express an honest opinion. If you express it you know beforehand that it would never appear in print. I am paid... for keeping my honest opinions out of the paper I am connected with. Others of you are paid similar salaries for doing similar things....

The business of the New York journalist is to distort the truth, to lie outright, to pervert, to vilify, to fawn at the feet of Mammon, and sell his country and race for his daily bread, or for what is about the same thing, his salary. You know this, and I know it and what foolery to be toasting an 'independent press.' We are tools, and the vassals of rich men behind the scenes. We are jumping-jacks. They pull the strings and we dance. Our time, our talents, our lives, our possibilities, all are the property of other men. We are intellectual prostitutes."

Posted:  1/30/2009 12:12:38 PM
P: 1/30/2009 12:21:40 PM
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Date: 1/30/2009 12:12:38 PM
Author: Ellen

Date: 1/30/2009 12:11:19 PM
Author: tlh
I think a better punnishment would be to throw paris hilton in there with him!
LOL What? I don't get it, and yet, it was still funny!
Ha!  I don't really know waht I meant either... I was just thinking of her complaining when she was on house arrest... and thinking, man, being stuck with her would really be punnishment! 

Oh, AND she'd GET TO SPEND HIS MONEY WHILE HE WATCHED! (wicked almost maniacal laughter!)

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Posted:  1/30/2009 12:21:40 PM
P: 1/30/2009 12:23:57 PM
Ellen
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Date: 1/30/2009 12:21:40 PM
Author: tlh

Date: 1/30/2009 12:12:38 PM
Author: Ellen


Date: 1/30/2009 12:11:19 PM
Author: tlh
I think a better punnishment would be to throw paris hilton in there with him!
LOL What? I don't get it, and yet, it was still funny!
Ha! I don't really know waht I meant either... I was just thinking of her complaining when she was on house arrest... and thinking, man, being stuck with her would really be punnishment!

Oh, AND she'd GET TO SPEND HIS MONEY WHILE HE WATCHED! (wicked almost maniacal laughter!)
LOL Ok, that makes sense.

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"It is also important for the State to inculcate in its subjects an aversion to any 'conspiracy theory of history' for a search for 'conspiracies' means a search for motives and an attribution of responsibility for historical misdeeds."

-Murray N. Rothbard, in The Anatomy of the State



John Swinton [1829-1901] Chief Editorial Writer of the New York Times (Considered "the Dean of his Profession" by his peers), when asked to toast an 'Independent Press' in a gathering at the National Press Club, circa 1880

"There is no such thing in America as an independent press unless it is in the country towns. You know it, and I know it. There is not one of you who dare express an honest opinion. If you express it you know beforehand that it would never appear in print. I am paid... for keeping my honest opinions out of the paper I am connected with. Others of you are paid similar salaries for doing similar things....

The business of the New York journalist is to distort the truth, to lie outright, to pervert, to vilify, to fawn at the feet of Mammon, and sell his country and race for his daily bread, or for what is about the same thing, his salary. You know this, and I know it and what foolery to be toasting an 'independent press.' We are tools, and the vassals of rich men behind the scenes. We are jumping-jacks. They pull the strings and we dance. Our time, our talents, our lives, our possibilities, all are the property of other men. We are intellectual prostitutes."

Posted:  1/30/2009 12:23:57 PM
P: 1/30/2009 12:24:54 PM
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I was complaining to hubby that if a blue collar worker commits petty theft, he'll be in the locker with 1 dozen other criminals so fast that your head will spin.  This SCAM guy is lucky to still be enjoying the luxury of his own home.

Posted:  1/30/2009 12:24:54 PM
P: 1/30/2009 12:28:36 PM
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Date: 1/30/2009 12:24:54 PM
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I was complaining to hubby that if a blue collar worker commits petty theft, he'll be in the locker with 1 dozen other criminals so fast that your head will spin. This SCAM guy is lucky to still be enjoying the luxury of his own home.
I know... he could be in the slammer getting a tushie creamsicle... but instead he complains that he's isolated!  HA... would he preffer jailhouse LUVIN'???

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Posted:  1/30/2009 12:28:36 PM
P: 1/30/2009 12:29:17 PM
Ellen
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Date: 1/30/2009 12:24:54 PM
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I was complaining to hubby that if a blue collar worker commits petty theft, he'll be in the locker with 1 dozen other criminals so fast that your head will spin. This SCAM guy is lucky to still be enjoying the luxury of his own home.
I know, I seriously don't get it. I honestly wonder if the judge is a friend of his. This man has literally ruined scores of lives, and cost one. I do not get it.

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"It is also important for the State to inculcate in its subjects an aversion to any 'conspiracy theory of history' for a search for 'conspiracies' means a search for motives and an attribution of responsibility for historical misdeeds."

-Murray N. Rothbard, in The Anatomy of the State



John Swinton [1829-1901] Chief Editorial Writer of the New York Times (Considered "the Dean of his Profession" by his peers), when asked to toast an 'Independent Press' in a gathering at the National Press Club, circa 1880

"There is no such thing in America as an independent press unless it is in the country towns. You know it, and I know it. There is not one of you who dare express an honest opinion. If you express it you know beforehand that it would never appear in print. I am paid... for keeping my honest opinions out of the paper I am connected with. Others of you are paid similar salaries for doing similar things....

The business of the New York journalist is to distort the truth, to lie outright, to pervert, to vilify, to fawn at the feet of Mammon, and sell his country and race for his daily bread, or for what is about the same thing, his salary. You know this, and I know it and what foolery to be toasting an 'independent press.' We are tools, and the vassals of rich men behind the scenes. We are jumping-jacks. They pull the strings and we dance. Our time, our talents, our lives, our possibilities, all are the property of other men. We are intellectual prostitutes."

Posted:  1/30/2009 12:29:17 PM
P: 1/30/2009 12:32:08 PM
tlh
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Date: 1/30/2009 12:29:17 PM
Author: Ellen

Date: 1/30/2009 12:24:54 PM
Author: Chrono
I was complaining to hubby that if a blue collar worker commits petty theft, he'll be in the locker with 1 dozen other criminals so fast that your head will spin. This SCAM guy is lucky to still be enjoying the luxury of his own home.
I know, I seriously don't get it. I honestly wonder if the judge is a friend of his. This man has literally ruined scores of lives, and cost one. I do not get it.
Well... you hang out near toilets, you're bound to run across a couple of turds.

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Posted:  1/30/2009 12:32:08 PM
P: 1/30/2009 12:54:14 PM
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It's very sad. Did anyone see yesterday's NYT? Mini-Madoffs are emerging.

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Posted:  1/30/2009 12:54:14 PM
P: 1/30/2009 12:58:37 PM
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Date: 1/30/2009 12:54:14 PM
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It's very sad. Did anyone see yesterday's NYT? Mini-Madoffs are emerging.
You're kidding!  GREED IS UNBELIEVABLE!

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Posted:  1/30/2009 12:58:37 PM
P: 1/30/2009 1:03:07 PM
Ellen
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Date: 1/30/2009 12:54:14 PM
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It's very sad. Did anyone see yesterday's NYT? Mini-Madoffs are emerging.
Not that article, but I've heard of two others in the last few weeks. There were warnings after Bernie that others would surface.

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"It is also important for the State to inculcate in its subjects an aversion to any 'conspiracy theory of history' for a search for 'conspiracies' means a search for motives and an attribution of responsibility for historical misdeeds."

-Murray N. Rothbard, in The Anatomy of the State



John Swinton [1829-1901] Chief Editorial Writer of the New York Times (Considered "the Dean of his Profession" by his peers), when asked to toast an 'Independent Press' in a gathering at the National Press Club, circa 1880

"There is no such thing in America as an independent press unless it is in the country towns. You know it, and I know it. There is not one of you who dare express an honest opinion. If you express it you know beforehand that it would never appear in print. I am paid... for keeping my honest opinions out of the paper I am connected with. Others of you are paid similar salaries for doing similar things....

The business of the New York journalist is to distort the truth, to lie outright, to pervert, to vilify, to fawn at the feet of Mammon, and sell his country and race for his daily bread, or for what is about the same thing, his salary. You know this, and I know it and what foolery to be toasting an 'independent press.' We are tools, and the vassals of rich men behind the scenes. We are jumping-jacks. They pull the strings and we dance. Our time, our talents, our lives, our possibilities, all are the property of other men. We are intellectual prostitutes."

Posted:  1/30/2009 1:03:07 PM
P: 1/30/2009 1:08:10 PM
Bia
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Just another example of why white collar criminals should NOT get off as easily as they do.

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Posted:  1/30/2009 1:08:10 PM
P: 1/30/2009 1:42:46 PM
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Such a horrible thing... There truly are evil people out there

Posted:  1/30/2009 1:42:46 PM
P: 2/8/2009 11:18:13 AM
Ellen
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90 year old Madoff victim, back to work.


Kudos to that grocery store. Poor guy.

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"It is also important for the State to inculcate in its subjects an aversion to any 'conspiracy theory of history' for a search for 'conspiracies' means a search for motives and an attribution of responsibility for historical misdeeds."

-Murray N. Rothbard, in The Anatomy of the State



John Swinton [1829-1901] Chief Editorial Writer of the New York Times (Considered "the Dean of his Profession" by his peers), when asked to toast an 'Independent Press' in a gathering at the National Press Club, circa 1880

"There is no such thing in America as an independent press unless it is in the country towns. You know it, and I know it. There is not one of you who dare express an honest opinion. If you express it you know beforehand that it would never appear in print. I am paid... for keeping my honest opinions out of the paper I am connected with. Others of you are paid similar salaries for doing similar things....

The business of the New York journalist is to distort the truth, to lie outright, to pervert, to vilify, to fawn at the feet of Mammon, and sell his country and race for his daily bread, or for what is about the same thing, his salary. You know this, and I know it and what foolery to be toasting an 'independent press.' We are tools, and the vassals of rich men behind the scenes. We are jumping-jacks. They pull the strings and we dance. Our time, our talents, our lives, our possibilities, all are the property of other men. We are intellectual prostitutes."

Posted:  2/8/2009 11:18:13 AM
P: 2/8/2009 11:43:40 AM
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Date: 2/8/2009 11:18:13 AM
Author: Ellen
90 year old Madoff victim, back to work.


Kudos to that grocery store. Poor guy.
Oh geez, that is horrible.  Heartbreaking

Skippy






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Posted:  2/8/2009 11:43:40 AM
P: 2/15/2009 9:41:14 AM
Ellen
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Another suicide.
 
I have to ask again, WHY isn't this @#!%#& in jail while awaiting trial?

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"It is also important for the State to inculcate in its subjects an aversion to any 'conspiracy theory of history' for a search for 'conspiracies' means a search for motives and an attribution of responsibility for historical misdeeds."

-Murray N. Rothbard, in The Anatomy of the State



John Swinton [1829-1901] Chief Editorial Writer of the New York Times (Considered "the Dean of his Profession" by his peers), when asked to toast an 'Independent Press' in a gathering at the National Press Club, circa 1880

"There is no such thing in America as an independent press unless it is in the country towns. You know it, and I know it. There is not one of you who dare express an honest opinion. If you express it you know beforehand that it would never appear in print. I am paid... for keeping my honest opinions out of the paper I am connected with. Others of you are paid similar salaries for doing similar things....

The business of the New York journalist is to distort the truth, to lie outright, to pervert, to vilify, to fawn at the feet of Mammon, and sell his country and race for his daily bread, or for what is about the same thing, his salary. You know this, and I know it and what foolery to be toasting an 'independent press.' We are tools, and the vassals of rich men behind the scenes. We are jumping-jacks. They pull the strings and we dance. Our time, our talents, our lives, our possibilities, all are the property of other men. We are intellectual prostitutes."

Posted:  2/15/2009 9:41:14 AM
P: 3/2/2009 12:22:27 PM
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