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P: 12/22/2008 10:15:33 PM
mylady Rough Rock Total Posts: 6 Last Post: 1/1/2009 Member Since: 12/22/2008	Hi all, I've been lurking for over a year and finally, my boyfriend and I are ready to purchase, but we need some help. Is the following diamond worth further investigation (calling it in from an outside source)? Carat: 1.52 Color: K Clarity: VS2 Measurements: 7.33 x 7.37 x 4.60 Cut: Excellent Symmetry: Excellent Polish: Excellent Fluorescence: None Cutlet: None Comments: Additional Clouds Are Not Shown Table: 55% Pavilion: 62.6% Crown Angle: 35 Pavilion Angle: 41 Crown: 15.5 Girdle: Thin-Medium (faceted) Any help you guys can offer would be greatly appreciated!!! Thanks.
Posted: 12/22/2008 10:15:33 PM

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P: 12/22/2008 10:49:05 PM
diamondseeker2006 Ideal Rock Total Posts: 17,609 Last Post: 11/18/2009 Member Since: 1/11/2006	That stone scores a 2.4 very good on the HCA (cut advisor) and the most desirable results are 2.0 and under. It falls outside of the AGS Ideal specs. It is a little deep. You should try to stay at about 60-62 on depth. Stones that are deep sometimes face up a little smaller than they would if less deep. I like to see 7.4mm in diameter for a 1.5 ct. stone. So I guess I would say that you could do a little better than this. ~~~ When in doubt...don't.~~~
Posted: 12/22/2008 10:49:05 PM

P: 12/23/2008 4:57:35 AM
Lorelei Ideal Rock Total Posts: 34,219 Last Post: 11/23/2009 Member Since: 4/30/2005	Date: 12/22/2008 10:15:33 PM Author:mylady Hi all, I've been lurking for over a year and finally, my boyfriend and I are ready to purchase, but we need some help. Is the following diamond worth further investigation (calling it in from an outside source)? Carat: 1.52 Color: K Clarity: VS2 Measurements: 7.33 x 7.37 x 4.60 Cut: Excellent Symmetry: Excellent Polish: Excellent Fluorescence: None Cutlet: None Comments: Additional Clouds Are Not Shown Table: 55% Pavilion: 62.6% Crown Angle: 35 Pavilion Angle: 41 Crown: 15.5 Girdle: Thin-Medium (faceted) Any help you guys can offer would be greatly appreciated!!! Thanks. Welcome! The angle combo is the deciding factor here, at 35/41 it is borderline steep deep so I would personally want an Idealscope image of this diamond to check for potential light leakage. It may not be a problem as GIA rounds the numbers, depending on whether they are rounded up or down then it may or may not show leakage, or if it does it might not be much - but an IS is the way to check. It is facing up a little small for its weight, not terrible but some. Also are you ok with a K colour? You will probably notice a little tint from the side especially, however the lower colours do have their admirers ( like me!) Nothing is more sacred as the bond between horse and rider...no other creature can ever become so emotionally close to a human as a horse. When a horse dies, the memory lives on because an enormous part of his owner's heart, soul, very existence dies also...but that can never be laid to rest, it is not meant to be... - Stephanie M Thorn
Posted: 12/23/2008 4:57:35 AM

P: 12/26/2008 10:09:21 AM
mylady Rough Rock Total Posts: 6 Last Post: 1/1/2009 Member Since: 12/22/2008	Thanks so much for your advice! My boyfriend and I will definitely look elsewhere. Have a great holiday!!!
Posted: 12/26/2008 10:09:21 AM

P: 12/26/2008 10:18:18 AM
Lorelei Ideal Rock Total Posts: 34,219 Last Post: 11/23/2009 Member Since: 4/30/2005	Date: 12/26/2008 10:09:21 AM Author: mylady Thanks so much for your advice! My boyfriend and I will definitely look elsewhere. Have a great holiday!!! Most welcome and happy holidays to you too! If you could get an Idealscope image we could get a better idea, but if you prefer a higher colour then keep looking. Nothing is more sacred as the bond between horse and rider...no other creature can ever become so emotionally close to a human as a horse. When a horse dies, the memory lives on because an enormous part of his owner's heart, soul, very existence dies also...but that can never be laid to rest, it is not meant to be... - Stephanie M Thorn
Posted: 12/26/2008 10:18:18 AM

P: 12/30/2008 5:32:21 PM
mylady Rough Rock Total Posts: 6 Last Post: 1/1/2009 Member Since: 12/22/2008	Lorelei, I just got the IdealScope image. I'm new at this, but I think that I notice some light leakage. What do you think?
Posted: 12/30/2008 5:32:21 PM

P: 12/30/2008 7:17:03 PM
Ellen Ideal Rock Total Posts: 22,894 Last Post: 11/6/2009 Member Since: 1/13/2006	Hi! I'm not Lorelei, she's fast asleep now. (in the UK) But I'd be glad to throw my 2 cents in. Yes, the IS is showing slight leakage, but I'm not sure if it would be enough to determine with the naked eye. The company that stone is from is reputable, so you could have them give their opinion on whether they think it would be noticeable. However, as Lorelei said, if you are really wanting something a bit higher in color, we could help you find something. Just let us know! ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ "It is also important for the State to inculcate in its subjects an aversion to any 'conspiracy theory of history' for a search for 'conspiracies' means a search for motives and an attribution of responsibility for historical misdeeds." -Murray N. Rothbard, in The Anatomy of the State John Swinton [1829-1901] Chief Editorial Writer of the New York Times (Considered "the Dean of his Profession" by his peers), when asked to toast an 'Independent Press' in a gathering at the National Press Club, circa 1880 "There is no such thing in America as an independent press unless it is in the country towns. You know it, and I know it. There is not one of you who dare express an honest opinion. If you express it you know beforehand that it would never appear in print. I am paid... for keeping my honest opinions out of the paper I am connected with. Others of you are paid similar salaries for doing similar things.... The business of the New York journalist is to distort the truth, to lie outright, to pervert, to vilify, to fawn at the feet of Mammon, and sell his country and race for his daily bread, or for what is about the same thing, his salary. You know this, and I know it and what foolery to be toasting an 'independent press.' We are tools, and the vassals of rich men behind the scenes. We are jumping-jacks. They pull the strings and we dance. Our time, our talents, our lives, our possibilities, all are the property of other men. We are intellectual prostitutes."
Posted: 12/30/2008 7:17:03 PM

P: 12/30/2008 8:15:15 PM
diamondseeker2006 Ideal Rock Total Posts: 17,609 Last Post: 11/18/2009 Member Since: 1/11/2006	There is a big price jump at 1.5 carats, so it is pretty easy to go up in color if you try to look just under 1.5 cts. ~~~ When in doubt...don't.~~~
Posted: 12/30/2008 8:15:15 PM

P: 12/30/2008 8:48:33 PM
mylady Rough Rock Total Posts: 6 Last Post: 1/1/2009 Member Since: 12/22/2008	Date: 12/30/2008 7:17:03 PM Author: Ellen Hi! I'm not Lorelei, she's fast asleep now. (in the UK) But I'd be glad to throw my 2 cents in. Yes, the IS is showing slight leakage, but I'm not sure if it would be enough to determine with the naked eye. The company that stone is from is reputable, so you could have them give their opinion on whether they think it would be noticeable. However, as Lorelei said, if you are really wanting something a bit higher in color, we could help you find something. Just let us know! Thanks a lot Ellen. I've contacted the rep about the leakage. I'll see what she has to say tomorrow and we'll decide what to do then. I will definitely let you know if I need any help extending my search. Thanks again!
Posted: 12/30/2008 8:48:33 PM

P: 12/30/2008 8:53:48 PM
mylady Rough Rock Total Posts: 6 Last Post: 1/1/2009 Member Since: 12/22/2008	Date: 12/30/2008 8:15:15 PM Author: diamondseeker2006 There is a big price jump at 1.5 carats, so it is pretty easy to go up in color if you try to look just under 1.5 cts. Diamondseeker2006, we've been looking at diamonds that offered better colors with less carats, but most were out of our price range. Are we doing something wrong? Maybe we're not looking in the right places? (We've looked at many of PriceScope's listed vendors.)
Posted: 12/30/2008 8:53:48 PM

P: 12/30/2008 9:04:06 PM
Ellen Ideal Rock Total Posts: 22,894 Last Post: 11/6/2009 Member Since: 1/13/2006	Date: 12/30/2008 8:48:33 PM Author: mylady Thanks a lot Ellen. I've contacted the rep about the leakage. I'll see what she has to say tomorrow and we'll decide what to do then. I will definitely let you know if I need any help extending my search. Thanks again! You're welcome! Let us know how it goes. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ "It is also important for the State to inculcate in its subjects an aversion to any 'conspiracy theory of history' for a search for 'conspiracies' means a search for motives and an attribution of responsibility for historical misdeeds." -Murray N. Rothbard, in The Anatomy of the State John Swinton [1829-1901] Chief Editorial Writer of the New York Times (Considered "the Dean of his Profession" by his peers), when asked to toast an 'Independent Press' in a gathering at the National Press Club, circa 1880 "There is no such thing in America as an independent press unless it is in the country towns. You know it, and I know it. There is not one of you who dare express an honest opinion. If you express it you know beforehand that it would never appear in print. I am paid... for keeping my honest opinions out of the paper I am connected with. Others of you are paid similar salaries for doing similar things.... The business of the New York journalist is to distort the truth, to lie outright, to pervert, to vilify, to fawn at the feet of Mammon, and sell his country and race for his daily bread, or for what is about the same thing, his salary. You know this, and I know it and what foolery to be toasting an 'independent press.' We are tools, and the vassals of rich men behind the scenes. We are jumping-jacks. They pull the strings and we dance. Our time, our talents, our lives, our possibilities, all are the property of other men. We are intellectual prostitutes."
Posted: 12/30/2008 9:04:06 PM

P: 12/30/2008 11:32:28 PM
diamondseeker2006 Ideal Rock Total Posts: 17,609 Last Post: 11/18/2009 Member Since: 1/11/2006	There's not a lot available at the moment in the size I was recommending, unfortunately. Here is all I could find: http://www.goodoldgold.com/diamond/3737/ http://www.jamesallen.com/diamonds/I-VS1-Ideal-Cut-Round-Diamond-1193884.asp?b=16&a=12&c=77&cid=131 ~~~ When in doubt...don't.~~~
Posted: 12/30/2008 11:32:28 PM

P: 12/31/2008 5:09:26 AM
Lorelei Ideal Rock Total Posts: 34,219 Last Post: 11/23/2009 Member Since: 4/30/2005	Date: 12/30/2008 7:17:03 PM Author: Ellen Hi! I'm not Lorelei, she's fast asleep now. (in the UK) But I'd be glad to throw my 2 cents in. Yes, the IS is showing slight leakage, but I'm not sure if it would be enough to determine with the naked eye. The company that stone is from is reputable, so you could have them give their opinion on whether they think it would be noticeable. However, as Lorelei said, if you are really wanting something a bit higher in color, we could help you find something. Just let us know! Thanks Pal!! And ditto! Nothing is more sacred as the bond between horse and rider...no other creature can ever become so emotionally close to a human as a horse. When a horse dies, the memory lives on because an enormous part of his owner's heart, soul, very existence dies also...but that can never be laid to rest, it is not meant to be... - Stephanie M Thorn
Posted: 12/31/2008 5:09:26 AM

P: 12/31/2008 7:24:03 AM
Ellen Ideal Rock Total Posts: 22,894 Last Post: 11/6/2009 Member Since: 1/13/2006	You's welcome! ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ "It is also important for the State to inculcate in its subjects an aversion to any 'conspiracy theory of history' for a search for 'conspiracies' means a search for motives and an attribution of responsibility for historical misdeeds." -Murray N. Rothbard, in The Anatomy of the State John Swinton [1829-1901] Chief Editorial Writer of the New York Times (Considered "the Dean of his Profession" by his peers), when asked to toast an 'Independent Press' in a gathering at the National Press Club, circa 1880 "There is no such thing in America as an independent press unless it is in the country towns. You know it, and I know it. There is not one of you who dare express an honest opinion. If you express it you know beforehand that it would never appear in print. I am paid... for keeping my honest opinions out of the paper I am connected with. Others of you are paid similar salaries for doing similar things.... The business of the New York journalist is to distort the truth, to lie outright, to pervert, to vilify, to fawn at the feet of Mammon, and sell his country and race for his daily bread, or for what is about the same thing, his salary. You know this, and I know it and what foolery to be toasting an 'independent press.' We are tools, and the vassals of rich men behind the scenes. We are jumping-jacks. They pull the strings and we dance. Our time, our talents, our lives, our possibilities, all are the property of other men. We are intellectual prostitutes."
Posted: 12/31/2008 7:24:03 AM

P: 12/31/2008 7:32:54 AM
Ellen Ideal Rock Total Posts: 22,894 Last Post: 11/6/2009 Member Since: 1/13/2006	mylady, I don't see where you've listed your top budget, but I found this one and thought I'd throw it out there anyway. Fantastic size, very rare in a well cut stone. And nice color and clarity (if eyeclean)! http://www.whiteflash.com/hearts_arrows/Whiteflash-ACA-cut-diamond-1848229.htm# The price listed does not reflect the 5% PS discount you would receive. If you are at all interested, call and reserve it immediately while you think, this one won't last long! ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ "It is also important for the State to inculcate in its subjects an aversion to any 'conspiracy theory of history' for a search for 'conspiracies' means a search for motives and an attribution of responsibility for historical misdeeds." -Murray N. Rothbard, in The Anatomy of the State John Swinton [1829-1901] Chief Editorial Writer of the New York Times (Considered "the Dean of his Profession" by his peers), when asked to toast an 'Independent Press' in a gathering at the National Press Club, circa 1880 "There is no such thing in America as an independent press unless it is in the country towns. You know it, and I know it. There is not one of you who dare express an honest opinion. If you express it you know beforehand that it would never appear in print. I am paid... for keeping my honest opinions out of the paper I am connected with. Others of you are paid similar salaries for doing similar things.... The business of the New York journalist is to distort the truth, to lie outright, to pervert, to vilify, to fawn at the feet of Mammon, and sell his country and race for his daily bread, or for what is about the same thing, his salary. You know this, and I know it and what foolery to be toasting an 'independent press.' We are tools, and the vassals of rich men behind the scenes. We are jumping-jacks. They pull the strings and we dance. Our time, our talents, our lives, our possibilities, all are the property of other men. We are intellectual prostitutes."
Posted: 12/31/2008 7:32:54 AM

P: 1/1/2009 12:01:34 PM
mylady Rough Rock Total Posts: 6 Last Post: 1/1/2009 Member Since: 12/22/2008	Diamondseeker and Ellen: Thanks for pulling those diamonds for me. They're all beautiful, but outside of our current budget. (Ellen, I esp. love the one you pulled for me. It's perfect. sigh) Honestly, I'm hoping that this may convince my bf to make the budget a little bigger. Anyhoo, we're going to keep looking and I'll will post any contenders. As this was my first post, your help and advice have proven what I've seen on Pricescope over the past year: that Priceccopers are really nice and helpful people. Thanks again and hopefully I'll have an update soon. Happy New Year!!
Posted: 1/1/2009 12:01:34 PM

P: 1/1/2009 1:04:59 PM
Lorelei Ideal Rock Total Posts: 34,219 Last Post: 11/23/2009 Member Since: 4/30/2005	Keep us posted! Nothing is more sacred as the bond between horse and rider...no other creature can ever become so emotionally close to a human as a horse. When a horse dies, the memory lives on because an enormous part of his owner's heart, soul, very existence dies also...but that can never be laid to rest, it is not meant to be... - Stephanie M Thorn
Posted: 1/1/2009 1:04:59 PM

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