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P: 12/22/2008 5:24:40 PM
Vintage_Glamour Rough Rock Total Posts: 11 Last Post: 1/12/2009 Member Since: 10/20/2008	I was interested in purchasing a RB stone and I thought everything seemed okay, cut wise. However I read a thread earlier today about the HCA being rather high even though the stone was graded as excellent. So I plugged the numbers in for my possible new stone and it came back as a 6 Needless to say I was a little bummed! Here's some information from the GIA Mike sent me. 11.67 x 11.71 x 7.35 Table: 57% Depth: 62.9% Crown: 34.0 Pavilion: 41.8 Culet: None Colour: F Clarity: VVS1 Cut: Excellent Polish: Excellent Symmetry: Excellent Fluorescence: None Is this stone good or should I keep looking? I cannot seem to find something, in the size I'm looking for, that rates well on the HCA. Any advice, help, opinions are welcomed.
Posted: 12/22/2008 5:24:40 PM

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P: 12/22/2008 5:48:20 PM
swingirl Ideal Rock Total Posts: 3,294 Last Post: 11/25/2009 Member Since: 4/6/2006	This is a little smaller than you are looking for but it did get a nice HCA score. http://www.pearlmansjewelers.com/diamond.php?diamond=TBF4315
Posted: 12/22/2008 5:48:20 PM

P: 12/22/2008 5:48:27 PM
JulieN Ideal Rock Total Posts: 7,150 Last Post: 11/25/2009 Member Since: 7/25/2005	keep looking. you can do better.
Posted: 12/22/2008 5:48:27 PM

P: 12/22/2008 5:50:42 PM
Ellen Ideal Rock Total Posts: 22,894 Last Post: 11/6/2009 Member Since: 1/13/2006	Hi VG, Yes, I would suggest you keep looking. It's rather deep, coupled with a very deep pavilion angle. That's not conducive to a super pretty diamond. I know you can do better. Are you looking locally or online? I will try to help you find something once I know where you're looking! ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ "It is also important for the State to inculcate in its subjects an aversion to any 'conspiracy theory of history' for a search for 'conspiracies' means a search for motives and an attribution of responsibility for historical misdeeds." -Murray N. Rothbard, in The Anatomy of the State John Swinton [1829-1901] Chief Editorial Writer of the New York Times (Considered "the Dean of his Profession" by his peers), when asked to toast an 'Independent Press' in a gathering at the National Press Club, circa 1880 "There is no such thing in America as an independent press unless it is in the country towns. You know it, and I know it. There is not one of you who dare express an honest opinion. If you express it you know beforehand that it would never appear in print. I am paid... for keeping my honest opinions out of the paper I am connected with. Others of you are paid similar salaries for doing similar things.... The business of the New York journalist is to distort the truth, to lie outright, to pervert, to vilify, to fawn at the feet of Mammon, and sell his country and race for his daily bread, or for what is about the same thing, his salary. You know this, and I know it and what foolery to be toasting an 'independent press.' We are tools, and the vassals of rich men behind the scenes. We are jumping-jacks. They pull the strings and we dance. Our time, our talents, our lives, our possibilities, all are the property of other men. We are intellectual prostitutes."
Posted: 12/22/2008 5:50:42 PM

P: 12/22/2008 5:56:34 PM
diamondseeker2006 Ideal Rock Total Posts: 17,609 Last Post: 11/18/2009 Member Since: 1/11/2006	Truthfully, if I were spending that kind of money for a stone, you'd better believe it would be TOP cut quality! The only other thing you might consider (if you can't find an ideal cut) is buying a stone like this and sending it to WF to have recut to ideal proportions. Then the stone would have to be recertified. But it would result in a magnificent stone! ~~~ When in doubt...don't.~~~
Posted: 12/22/2008 5:56:34 PM

P: 12/22/2008 5:58:33 PM
Stone-cold11 Ideal Rock Total Posts: 6,928 Last Post: 11/25/2009 Member Since: 9/9/2008	Budget?
Posted: 12/22/2008 5:58:33 PM

P: 12/22/2008 6:01:21 PM
diamondseeker2006 Ideal Rock Total Posts: 17,609 Last Post: 11/18/2009 Member Since: 1/11/2006	Date: 12/22/2008 5:58:33 PM Author: Stone-cold11 Budget? When one is looking at stones with these specs, I doubt seriously there are big budget limitations. ~~~ When in doubt...don't.~~~
Posted: 12/22/2008 6:01:21 PM

P: 12/22/2008 6:02:14 PM
Stone-cold11 Ideal Rock Total Posts: 6,928 Last Post: 11/25/2009 Member Since: 9/9/2008	And that is a huge stone... around 6c? Probably why it is difficult to find ideal cuts.
Posted: 12/22/2008 6:02:14 PM

P: 12/22/2008 6:16:24 PM
Stone-cold11 Ideal Rock Total Posts: 6,928 Last Post: 11/25/2009 Member Since: 9/9/2008	Date: 12/22/2008 6:01:21 PM Author: diamondseeker2006 Date: 12/22/2008 5:58:33 PM Author: Stone-cold11 Budget? When one is looking at stones with these specs, I doubt seriously there are big budget limitations. Ya, just noticed the SIZE!!! Anyway, found this on BN. (EDT: this is with strong blue fluor) 62% depth, 57% table, 34° crown angle, 41° pavilion angle, HCA 1.5 http://www.bluenile.com/round-diamond-6-carat-ideal-cut-e-color-vs2-clarity_LD01341465?__fun_frm=i&filter_id=0 Found a slightly smaller AGS0 stone, but it has weird numbers... do not understand how it can be AGS0... 61.9% depth, 56.9% table, 35.9° crown angle, 41.1° pavilion angle, HCA 5.1 http://www.bluenile.com/round-diamond-5-carat-ideal-cut-e-color-vs2-clarity_LD01465806?__fun_frm=i&filter_id=0 AGS Report numbers here, if anyone is interested in deciphering that. EDT: The next good candidate is a Faint Blue fluor. http://www.bluenile.com/round-diamond-7-carat-ideal-cut-g-color-vs2-clarity_LD01261459?__fun_frm=i&filter_id=0
Posted: 12/22/2008 6:16:24 PM

P: 12/22/2008 6:51:56 PM
Kelli Ideal Rock Total Posts: 4,581 Last Post: 11/23/2009 Member Since: 5/27/2008	Keep looking! Please don't spend that kind of money on a so-so cut! You could have the most jaw-droppingly gorgeous diamond for that budget!
Posted: 12/22/2008 6:51:56 PM

P: 12/22/2008 10:53:09 PM
Vintage_Glamour Rough Rock Total Posts: 11 Last Post: 1/12/2009 Member Since: 10/20/2008	I'd like to thank everyone for your advice, opinions and help. My BF wants me to have the absolute best diamond so we'll keep looking until we find it. Also thank you for the links to the suggested stones. We're very interested in them so we'll be checking those out first. I hope everyone has a wonderful and safe holiday!!
Posted: 12/22/2008 10:53:09 PM

P: 12/23/2008 8:52:09 AM
Ellen Ideal Rock Total Posts: 22,894 Last Post: 11/6/2009 Member Since: 1/13/2006	Date: 12/22/2008 10:53:09 PM Author: Vintage_Glamour I'd like to thank everyone for your advice, opinions and help. My BF wants me to have the absolute best diamond so we'll keep looking until we find it. Also thank you for the links to the suggested stones. We're very interested in them so we'll be checking those out first. I hope everyone has a wonderful and safe holiday!! The first and last look like they are worth bringing home to have an independant appraiser look at. I would definitely ask if all the numbers are correct on that middle one. If so, pass. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ "It is also important for the State to inculcate in its subjects an aversion to any 'conspiracy theory of history' for a search for 'conspiracies' means a search for motives and an attribution of responsibility for historical misdeeds." -Murray N. Rothbard, in The Anatomy of the State John Swinton [1829-1901] Chief Editorial Writer of the New York Times (Considered "the Dean of his Profession" by his peers), when asked to toast an 'Independent Press' in a gathering at the National Press Club, circa 1880 "There is no such thing in America as an independent press unless it is in the country towns. You know it, and I know it. There is not one of you who dare express an honest opinion. If you express it you know beforehand that it would never appear in print. I am paid... for keeping my honest opinions out of the paper I am connected with. Others of you are paid similar salaries for doing similar things.... The business of the New York journalist is to distort the truth, to lie outright, to pervert, to vilify, to fawn at the feet of Mammon, and sell his country and race for his daily bread, or for what is about the same thing, his salary. You know this, and I know it and what foolery to be toasting an 'independent press.' We are tools, and the vassals of rich men behind the scenes. We are jumping-jacks. They pull the strings and we dance. Our time, our talents, our lives, our possibilities, all are the property of other men. We are intellectual prostitutes."
Posted: 12/23/2008 8:52:09 AM

P: 12/23/2008 8:53:44 AM
Lorelei Ideal Rock Total Posts: 34,268 Last Post: 11/25/2009 Member Since: 4/30/2005	Date: 12/23/2008 8:52:09 AM Author: Ellen Date: 12/22/2008 10:53:09 PM Author: Vintage_Glamour I'd like to thank everyone for your advice, opinions and help. My BF wants me to have the absolute best diamond so we'll keep looking until we find it. Also thank you for the links to the suggested stones. We're very interested in them so we'll be checking those out first. I hope everyone has a wonderful and safe holiday!! The first and last look like they are worth bringing home to have an independant appraiser look at. I would definitely ask if all the numbers are correct on that middle one. If so, pass. Ditto Do check out the diamond Swing posted also. WF have this one advertised - http://www.whiteflash.com/round/Round-cut-diamond-1805916.htm# Could be worth inquiring about. Nothing is more sacred as the bond between horse and rider...no other creature can ever become so emotionally close to a human as a horse. When a horse dies, the memory lives on because an enormous part of his owner's heart, soul, very existence dies also...but that can never be laid to rest, it is not meant to be... - Stephanie M Thorn
Posted: 12/23/2008 8:53:44 AM

P: 12/23/2008 7:48:16 PM
Dancing Fire Ideal Rock Total Posts: 10,227 Last Post: 11/24/2009 Member Since: 4/3/2004	if i had that kind of $$$'s i would give Jon (GOG) a call. it is always harder to find a "mind clean" stone than a eye clean stone.
Posted: 12/23/2008 7:48:16 PM

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