What is this diamond worth????

Date: 12/12/2008 9:58:33 PM
Author: BSS
Factor Grade
Light Return Excellent
Fire Excellent
Scintillation Excellent
Spread
or diameter for weight Very Good

Total Visual Performance 0.7 - Excellent
within TIC range


So based on the HCA...is this a good score?

Date: 12/13/2008 7:15:52 AM
Author: denverappraiser
‘Worth’ is a loaded word. It always has to have an element of what it’s worth to whom, when and under what circumstances or it’s not very useful information. It’s easy enough to look up what something like that would cost from one of the dealers here by using the utility at the top of the page titled ‘Pricescope your diamond’ and this may or may not answer your question. Another approach is to ask an appraiser and explain to them what set of circumstances you are considering. If you had one for sale, you could collect bids from buyers or you could go to the local mall and see what they are charging for something similar. All of these approaches will produce an answer, all will be correct in their own right, and they will be quite different from one another. I'm not trying to be evasive, I'm just pointing out that you've asked an incomplete question. It's rather like Douglas Adams's meaning of life, the universe and everything. The answer is 42. The hard part is understanding the question.

Neil Beaty
GG(GIA) ICGA(AGS) NAJA
Professional Appraisals in Denver

Date: 12/13/2008 2:41:37 AM
Author: SandraPaneczko
I just checked whiteflash prices

For a 1.70
I
VS2
ACA

15,117

Date: 12/13/2008 11:36:39 AM
Author: BSS



This is a 1.87

Date: 12/13/2008 11:40:21 AM
Author: denverappraiser
I know of no dealers who price based on the HCA score although they can set their prices however they like and it would be interesting to see someone try this.

The utility at the top of the page will give you a very competitive feel for US online dealers with similar goods. you'll find dozens of offers.

Local stores will vary quite a bit depending on where you are and the details stores around you. The range from very price competitive to the Internet folks to as much as 50% more. Most will be thrilled to give you a price quote on what they have if you ask them.

Neil Beaty
GG(GIA) ICGA(AGS) NAJA
Professional Appraisals in Denver

Date: 12/13/2008 11:47:05 AM
Author: denverappraiser
Is this a private party sale, an Internet dealer, a B&M store, or something else entirely?

Neil Beaty
GG(GIA) ICGA(AGS) NAJA
Professional Appraisals in Denver

Date: 12/13/2008 12:05:36 PM
Author: denverappraiser
1.85-1.90/I/VS2/GIA produces offers for 21 stones ranging from $11,357 - $14,951. The top end is generally full of stones that GIA graded as ‘excellent’ and this feature trades at a premium. Yours isn’t on the list by the way although given your specs it does seem to be on the high range of the similar offered stones. It’s a bit more work than I want to put in to get the HCA on all of them but since this seems to be one of your primary attributes you might want to do it and you will need to decide how much a 0.7 is worth to you when compared to a stone that’s similar in other ways but with a slightly higher score. I don't know enough about your stone (or any of these others either) to comment on which is 'better' and consequently I can't identify one as a better value either although I'll be happy to inspect any stone you like and provide a more informed answer.

Neil Beaty
GG(GIA) ICGA(AGS) NAJA
Professional Appraisals in Denver

Date: 12/13/2008 12:15:51 PM
Author: BSS





Thank your for taking the time to address my questions.

.7 HCA in my eyes seems to be a very good score, as I have measure some other stones. $13,200 is the price, NOT 13,500
So....again...thanks for your assistance.

Date: 12/13/2008 12:15:51 PM
Author: BSS
Thank your for taking the time to address my questions.

.7 HCA in my eyes seems to be a very good score, as I have measure some other stones. $13,200 is the price, NOT 13,500
So....again...thanks for your assistance.

Date: 12/13/2008 1:06:21 PM
Author: Paul-Antwerp


.7 HCA is good. A very good score. But what does that say about the diamond?

It says that 4 averages of various angles on the stone are working well together. It is a good sign to further investigate this diamond, since if all the rest of the details are OK, you will have a stunning stone.

It does not say however if your stone has H&A. For that, you need to have pics in the H&A-viewer.
It does not say either if your stone leaks light. If the actual angles are close to the averages, you are probably good, but you at least need to check the ideal-scope.
It does not say anything about the division of the intensity of the light return. You need an ASET for that.
It does not say anything about minor facets or painting/digging and since the GIA cut-grade is VG, this might be present. For this, you need more detailed measurements (or pics).

And because of all these reasons, it is impossible to give a price-indication, nor to compare it to any other stone.

Live long,

Date: 12/13/2008 1:15:07 PM
Author: BSS

Regarding 'Brillianteering' how does this work? Does GIA tell you if the stone 'didnt' have this done, the stone would grade 'higher' in terms of its cut rating? Is a little 'brillianteering' ok?? How much is too much.??? Do all diamonds have a little 'painting& digging' ??


thanks again for everyones input......your 'provided' education is invaluable.

Date: 12/13/2008 1:15:07 PM
Author: BSS




Regarding 'Brillianteering' how does this work? Does GIA tell you if the stone 'didnt' have this done, the stone would grade 'higher' in terms of its cut rating? Is a little 'brillianteering' ok?? How much is too much.??? Do all diamonds have a little 'painting& digging' ??

thanks again for everyones input......your 'provided' education is invaluable.

Date: 12/13/2008 1:23:11 PM
Author: strmrdr



In my opinion both GIA and AGS allow to much painting in some cases.
At least AGS tries to qualify the performance impact.

No it is not practical to cut a diamond with absolutely no painting and or digging.
They all have some even the best cuts.

Date: 12/13/2008 1:58:36 PM
Author: BSS

If you had two diamonds side by side BOTH of equal proportions, but one had 'brillianteering' performed on it, what diamond would COST more? The one without brillianteering? Will a GIA Cert define the 'degree' of brillinanteering?

thanks