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P: 12/11/2008 4:43:47 AM
CCNZ Rough Rock Total Posts: 35 Last Post: 1/26/2009 Member Since: 11/15/2008	Hi all Interested for an opinion on these 3 candidates. 1- http://www.gia.edu/reportcheck/index.cfm?fuseaction=home.showReportVerification&reportno=15757396&weight=1.04 HCA 2.5 2- http://www.gia.edu/reportcheck/index.cfm?fuseaction=home.showReportVerification&reportno=14365104&weight=0.91 HCA 2.7 3- http://www.gia.edu/reportcheck/index.cfm?fuseaction=home.showReportVerification&reportno=1106368044&weight=0.91 HCA 1.8
Posted: 12/11/2008 4:43:47 AM

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P: 12/11/2008 4:54:46 AM
Lorelei Ideal Rock Total Posts: 34,240 Last Post: 11/24/2009 Member Since: 4/30/2005	The third diamond is the safest bet looking at the proportions, can you get an Idealscope image for it? Nothing is more sacred as the bond between horse and rider...no other creature can ever become so emotionally close to a human as a horse. When a horse dies, the memory lives on because an enormous part of his owner's heart, soul, very existence dies also...but that can never be laid to rest, it is not meant to be... - Stephanie M Thorn
Posted: 12/11/2008 4:54:46 AM

P: 12/11/2008 4:55:48 AM
Stone-cold11 Ideal Rock Total Posts: 6,907 Last Post: 11/24/2009 Member Since: 9/9/2008	From the numbers, #3 is probably the best candidate, although all are a little near to the edge where performance is iffy, eg. #1 and #2 could be good perfroming stones while #3 fails, depending on the rounding of numbers so IS of them will be good if available.
Posted: 12/11/2008 4:55:48 AM

P: 12/11/2008 4:57:47 AM
Lorelei Ideal Rock Total Posts: 34,240 Last Post: 11/24/2009 Member Since: 4/30/2005	Date: 12/11/2008 4:55:48 AM Author: Stone-cold11 From the numbers, #3 is probably the best candidate, although all are a little near to the edge where performance is iffy, eg. #1 and #2 could be good perfroming stones while #3 fails, depending on the rounding of numbers so IS of them will be good if available. 3 fails? Number three could be a good diamond, can you explain what you mean by failing please? Nothing is more sacred as the bond between horse and rider...no other creature can ever become so emotionally close to a human as a horse. When a horse dies, the memory lives on because an enormous part of his owner's heart, soul, very existence dies also...but that can never be laid to rest, it is not meant to be... - Stephanie M Thorn
Posted: 12/11/2008 4:57:47 AM

P: 12/11/2008 5:14:04 AM
Stone-cold11 Ideal Rock Total Posts: 6,907 Last Post: 11/24/2009 Member Since: 9/9/2008	I said could fail when view through IS/ASET, maybe due to LGF, Stars angles, off symm, etc, I didnot say will fail, please make a distinction between those 2 words.
Posted: 12/11/2008 5:14:04 AM

P: 12/11/2008 5:17:25 AM
Lorelei Ideal Rock Total Posts: 34,240 Last Post: 11/24/2009 Member Since: 4/30/2005	Date: 12/11/2008 5:14:04 AM Author: Stone-cold11 I said could fail when view through IS/ASET, maybe due to LGF, Stars angles, off symm, etc, I didnot say will fail, please make a distinction between those 2 words. You did not say that in your post. "From the numbers, #3 is probably the best candidate, although all are a little near to the edge where performance is iffy, eg. #1 and #2 could be good perfroming stones while #3 fails, depending on the rounding of numbers so IS of them will be good if available. " Nothing is more sacred as the bond between horse and rider...no other creature can ever become so emotionally close to a human as a horse. When a horse dies, the memory lives on because an enormous part of his owner's heart, soul, very existence dies also...but that can never be laid to rest, it is not meant to be... - Stephanie M Thorn
Posted: 12/11/2008 5:17:25 AM

P: 12/11/2008 5:20:22 AM
Stone-cold11 Ideal Rock Total Posts: 6,907 Last Post: 11/24/2009 Member Since: 9/9/2008	Date: 12/11/2008 5:17:25 AM Author: Lorelei Date: 12/11/2008 5:14:04 AM Author: Stone-cold11 I said could fail when view through IS/ASET, maybe due to LGF, Stars angles, off symm, etc, I didnot say will fail, please make a distinction between those 2 words. You did not say that in your post. 'From the numbers, #3 is probably the best candidate, although all are a little near to the edge where performance is iffy, eg. #1 and #2 could be good perfroming stones while #3 fails, depending on the rounding of numbers so IS of them will be good if available. ' Yes, I did, see the sentence structure? , eg. #1 and #2 could be good perfroming stones while #3 fails, , this is all under the example sentence.
Posted: 12/11/2008 5:20:22 AM

P: 12/11/2008 5:21:41 AM
Lorelei Ideal Rock Total Posts: 34,240 Last Post: 11/24/2009 Member Since: 4/30/2005	Date: 12/11/2008 5:20:22 AM Author: Stone-cold11 Date: 12/11/2008 5:17:25 AM Author: Lorelei Date: 12/11/2008 5:14:04 AM Author: Stone-cold11 I said could fail when view through IS/ASET, maybe due to LGF, Stars angles, off symm, etc, I didnot say will fail, please make a distinction between those 2 words. You did not say that in your post. 'From the numbers, #3 is probably the best candidate, although all are a little near to the edge where performance is iffy, eg. #1 and #2 could be good perfroming stones while #3 fails, depending on the rounding of numbers so IS of them will be good if available. ' Yes, I did, see the sentence structure? , eg. #1 and #2 could be good perfroming stones while #3 fails, , this is all under the example sentence. Did you mean to say falls not fails? Nothing is more sacred as the bond between horse and rider...no other creature can ever become so emotionally close to a human as a horse. When a horse dies, the memory lives on because an enormous part of his owner's heart, soul, very existence dies also...but that can never be laid to rest, it is not meant to be... - Stephanie M Thorn
Posted: 12/11/2008 5:21:41 AM

P: 12/11/2008 5:26:58 AM
Stone-cold11 Ideal Rock Total Posts: 6,907 Last Post: 11/24/2009 Member Since: 9/9/2008	I meant what I said, fail in performing.
Posted: 12/11/2008 5:26:58 AM

P: 12/11/2008 5:29:10 AM
Lorelei Ideal Rock Total Posts: 34,240 Last Post: 11/24/2009 Member Since: 4/30/2005	Date: 12/11/2008 5:26:58 AM Author: Stone-cold11 I meant what I said, fail in performing. Why? Nothing is more sacred as the bond between horse and rider...no other creature can ever become so emotionally close to a human as a horse. When a horse dies, the memory lives on because an enormous part of his owner's heart, soul, very existence dies also...but that can never be laid to rest, it is not meant to be... - Stephanie M Thorn
Posted: 12/11/2008 5:29:10 AM

P: 12/11/2008 6:38:23 AM
Stone-cold11 Ideal Rock Total Posts: 6,907 Last Post: 11/24/2009 Member Since: 9/9/2008	I already said it. Read my post again.
Posted: 12/11/2008 6:38:23 AM

P: 12/11/2008 6:43:34 AM
CCNZ Rough Rock Total Posts: 35 Last Post: 1/26/2009 Member Since: 11/15/2008	So all have potential?
Posted: 12/11/2008 6:43:34 AM

P: 12/11/2008 6:44:29 AM
Lorelei Ideal Rock Total Posts: 34,240 Last Post: 11/24/2009 Member Since: 4/30/2005	Date: 12/11/2008 6:38:23 AM Author: Stone-cold11 I already said it. Read my post again. Ok then just to clarify, you are saying that the third diamond will ' fail' performancewise and therefore not be a good diamond to choose? You said originally that the third diamond looks to be the best candidate, then fails in performance, which is it please as I am confused? Nothing is more sacred as the bond between horse and rider...no other creature can ever become so emotionally close to a human as a horse. When a horse dies, the memory lives on because an enormous part of his owner's heart, soul, very existence dies also...but that can never be laid to rest, it is not meant to be... - Stephanie M Thorn
Posted: 12/11/2008 6:44:29 AM

P: 12/11/2008 6:45:11 AM
Lorelei Ideal Rock Total Posts: 34,240 Last Post: 11/24/2009 Member Since: 4/30/2005	Date: 12/11/2008 6:43:34 AM Author: CCNZ So all have potential? The third one looks to be the best one to me, you can certainly get Idealscopes for all of them but the third would be the one I am most interested in. The first could also be a good pick but the 35/ 41 angle combo is hovering around what we call the steep deep zone, as GIA rounds the numbers it depends on which way they are rounded as to whether the diamond will show any negative effects such as light leakage, so an Idealscope is very useful in these cases. The second is a bit deeper with the depth and thick girdle, could be a nice diamond but an Idealscope again would tell us more. Nothing is more sacred as the bond between horse and rider...no other creature can ever become so emotionally close to a human as a horse. When a horse dies, the memory lives on because an enormous part of his owner's heart, soul, very existence dies also...but that can never be laid to rest, it is not meant to be... - Stephanie M Thorn
Posted: 12/11/2008 6:45:11 AM

P: 12/11/2008 7:33:37 AM
Ellen Ideal Rock Total Posts: 22,894 Last Post: 11/6/2009 Member Since: 1/13/2006	Date: 12/11/2008 5:14:04 AM Author: Stone-cold11 I said could fail when view through IS/ASET, maybe due to LGF, Stars angles, off symm, etc, I did not say will fail, please make a distinction between those 2 words. Actually, your post reads as #3 fails in performance, though you may not have meant it that way. CC, I agree with Lorelei's assessment of the three and their potential. An IS is really needed. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ "It is also important for the State to inculcate in its subjects an aversion to any 'conspiracy theory of history' for a search for 'conspiracies' means a search for motives and an attribution of responsibility for historical misdeeds." -Murray N. Rothbard, in The Anatomy of the State John Swinton [1829-1901] Chief Editorial Writer of the New York Times (Considered "the Dean of his Profession" by his peers), when asked to toast an 'Independent Press' in a gathering at the National Press Club, circa 1880 "There is no such thing in America as an independent press unless it is in the country towns. You know it, and I know it. There is not one of you who dare express an honest opinion. If you express it you know beforehand that it would never appear in print. I am paid... for keeping my honest opinions out of the paper I am connected with. Others of you are paid similar salaries for doing similar things.... The business of the New York journalist is to distort the truth, to lie outright, to pervert, to vilify, to fawn at the feet of Mammon, and sell his country and race for his daily bread, or for what is about the same thing, his salary. You know this, and I know it and what foolery to be toasting an 'independent press.' We are tools, and the vassals of rich men behind the scenes. We are jumping-jacks. They pull the strings and we dance. Our time, our talents, our lives, our possibilities, all are the property of other men. We are intellectual prostitutes."
Posted: 12/11/2008 7:33:37 AM

P: 12/11/2008 7:47:56 AM
Stone-cold11 Ideal Rock Total Posts: 6,907 Last Post: 11/24/2009 Member Since: 9/9/2008	I said could fail, not will fail. It is in the example sentence structure.
Posted: 12/11/2008 7:47:56 AM

P: 12/11/2008 7:51:44 AM
Lorelei Ideal Rock Total Posts: 34,240 Last Post: 11/24/2009 Member Since: 4/30/2005	Date: 12/11/2008 7:47:56 AM Author: Stone-cold11 I said could fail, not will fail. It is in the example sentence structure. The way you wrote the post came across that you said that #3 WILL fail. It is important to clarify what is meant for those reading in order for them to get accurate advice and information. Why do you not think the third diamond is a good stone please? Nothing is more sacred as the bond between horse and rider...no other creature can ever become so emotionally close to a human as a horse. When a horse dies, the memory lives on because an enormous part of his owner's heart, soul, very existence dies also...but that can never be laid to rest, it is not meant to be... - Stephanie M Thorn
Posted: 12/11/2008 7:51:44 AM

P: 12/11/2008 7:52:58 AM
Stone-cold11 Ideal Rock Total Posts: 6,907 Last Post: 11/24/2009 Member Since: 9/9/2008	Date: 12/11/2008 6:43:34 AM Author: CCNZ So all have potential? Yes, all have potential, #3 has the best chance for best performance.
Posted: 12/11/2008 7:52:58 AM

P: 12/11/2008 7:54:36 AM
Stone-cold11 Ideal Rock Total Posts: 6,907 Last Post: 11/24/2009 Member Since: 9/9/2008	Date: 12/11/2008 7:51:44 AM Author: Lorelei Date: 12/11/2008 7:47:56 AM Author: Stone-cold11 I said could fail, not will fail. It is in the example sentence structure. The way you wrote the post came across that you said that #3 WILL fail. It is important to clarify what is meant for those reading in order for them to get accurate advice and information. Why do you not think the third diamond is a good stone please? I HAVE NEVER SAID #3 IS A BAD STONE!!! DON'T YOU UNDERSTAND WHAT IS AN EXAMPLE? STOP BLOODY PUTTING WORDS INTO MY MOUTH!
Posted: 12/11/2008 7:54:36 AM

P: 12/11/2008 8:00:14 AM
Lorelei Ideal Rock Total Posts: 34,240 Last Post: 11/24/2009 Member Since: 4/30/2005	CCNZ, please let us know how you get on concerning the Idealscope images. Nothing is more sacred as the bond between horse and rider...no other creature can ever become so emotionally close to a human as a horse. When a horse dies, the memory lives on because an enormous part of his owner's heart, soul, very existence dies also...but that can never be laid to rest, it is not meant to be... - Stephanie M Thorn
Posted: 12/11/2008 8:00:14 AM

P: 12/11/2008 8:14:17 AM
Stone-cold11 Ideal Rock Total Posts: 6,907 Last Post: 11/24/2009 Member Since: 9/9/2008	And how many times have I clarify already? If you do not understand the difference in meaning between could and would, and that the sentence in question is in the example sentence structure, that is my fault? Where in the quote did I state #3 was bad except in the example structure? It is an example! I am here to help CCNZ and not to argue sentence structures with you and we ended out with 80% of the thread on one stupid mis-understanding? What for??? From the numbers, #3 is probably the best candidate, although all are a little near to the edge where performance is iffy, eg. #1 and #2 could be good perfroming stones while #3 fails, depending on the rounding of numbers so IS of them will be good if available. It is an example, I already stated that #3 is the best in the lot. Or did you not understand that part? I am saying from the major dimensions HCA predicts the stone might be good but GIA rounds off numbers significantly and HCA does not take into account of the minor facets angles and sizes, it could still perform badly when compared in real life if these facets are off, which is why an IS is needed.
Posted: 12/11/2008 8:14:17 AM

P: 12/11/2008 8:43:04 AM
CCNZ Rough Rock Total Posts: 35 Last Post: 1/26/2009 Member Since: 11/15/2008	Thanks everyone appreciate your help I will try and view the stones or at least see if i cna get a IS for them.
Posted: 12/11/2008 8:43:04 AM

P: 12/11/2008 8:46:30 AM
Lorelei Ideal Rock Total Posts: 34,240 Last Post: 11/24/2009 Member Since: 4/30/2005	Date: 12/11/2008 8:43:04 AM Author: CCNZ Thanks everyone appreciate your help I will try and view the stones or at least see if i cna get a IS for them. Most welcome, let us know how you get on and post the IS images when you get them! Nothing is more sacred as the bond between horse and rider...no other creature can ever become so emotionally close to a human as a horse. When a horse dies, the memory lives on because an enormous part of his owner's heart, soul, very existence dies also...but that can never be laid to rest, it is not meant to be... - Stephanie M Thorn
Posted: 12/11/2008 8:46:30 AM

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