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F SI2 vs H SI1

P: 12/10/2008 10:51:07 PM
anarchy Rough Rock Total Posts: 10 Last Post: 12/27/2008 Member Since: 12/10/2008	Hi guys, After weeks of self-study and surfing around in pricescope, going through vendor to vendor. I have size down my choice to 2. A very tough and challenging decision. I have set my priority to be such 1) Cut AGS Ideal 2) Cost not more than $3300 (the lower the better) inc of setting and shipping 3) Size 0.69 - 0.79 4) Color F-H 5) Clarity - SI1 - SI2 I have checked with friends and people around that it will be always a good investment to buy at least a F VS2. However the price of a F VS2 is too pricey for me to buy therefore I need to reduce my requirement. I have also decided to mount it on a 6-prone tiffany knife edge setting. As my wife-to-be is skin sensitive to platinum, I can only choose 18K white gold. I myself prefer the second stone. ========================= First Stone ========================= Cut: H&A AGS Ideal Cost: $2731 Carat: 0.75 Color: H Clarity: SI1 HCA: 1 Light Return: Excellent Fire: Excellent Scintillation: Excellent Spread: Very Good Depth %: 61.4 Table %: 56.2 Crown Angle: 34.5 Pavilion Angle: 40.7 Fluorescence: None Culet: None
Posted: 12/10/2008 10:51:07 PM

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P: 12/10/2008 10:52:57 PM
anarchy Rough Rock Total Posts: 10 Last Post: 12/27/2008 Member Since: 12/10/2008	========================= Second Stone ========================= Cut: H&A AGS Ideal Cost: $2853 Carat: 0.748 Color: F Clarity: SI2 HCA: 1 Light Return: Excellent Fire: Excellent Scintillation: Excellent Spread: Very Good Depth %: 61.3 Table %: 55 Crown Angle: 34.6 Pavilion Angle: 40.7 Star : 52 Lower Girdle %: 78 Girdle: Thin to Medium Faceted Measurements: 5.84-5.87X3.59 Light Performance: 0 Polish: Ideal Symmetry: Ideal Culet: Pointed Fluorescence: Negligible
Posted: 12/10/2008 10:52:57 PM

P: 12/11/2008 4:24:40 AM
Lorelei Ideal Rock Total Posts: 34,228 Last Post: 11/23/2009 Member Since: 4/30/2005	Welcome! Both beauties, but go with the one you like best! Check that the diamond you choose is eyeclean to your standards by asking the vendor. Nothing is more sacred as the bond between horse and rider...no other creature can ever become so emotionally close to a human as a horse. When a horse dies, the memory lives on because an enormous part of his owner's heart, soul, very existence dies also...but that can never be laid to rest, it is not meant to be... - Stephanie M Thorn
Posted: 12/11/2008 4:24:40 AM

P: 12/11/2008 10:19:52 AM
anarchy Rough Rock Total Posts: 10 Last Post: 12/27/2008 Member Since: 12/10/2008	anymore opinion? not easy to choose from the 2
Posted: 12/11/2008 10:19:52 AM

P: 12/11/2008 10:29:10 AM
glitterata Ideal Rock Total Posts: 3,365 Last Post: 11/23/2009 Member Since: 4/17/2002	I prefer whiter diamonds, and I don't mind lower clarity, so if it were me I would choose the F. But that might not be your preference. And the difference in color will probably not be visible when set.
Posted: 12/11/2008 10:29:10 AM

P: 12/11/2008 10:44:05 AM
Skippy123 Ideal Rock Total Posts: 19,828 Last Post: 11/23/2009 Member Since: 11/24/2006	Date: 12/11/2008 10:19:52 AM Author: anarchy anymore opinion? not easy to choose from the 2 Which is eye clean?? If the SI2 is eye clean I would go for an F, but both look great! Skippy "The only things that stand between a person and what they want in life are the will to try it, and the faith to believe it's possible" Rich Devos
Posted: 12/11/2008 10:44:05 AM

P: 12/11/2008 10:58:00 AM
anarchy Rough Rock Total Posts: 10 Last Post: 12/27/2008 Member Since: 12/10/2008	both is eye clean actually my targetted carat size is .78 with F and SI2 for $3000. Do you think I should hold and carry on searching? I'm going to propose at the last week of Jan 09....
Posted: 12/11/2008 10:58:00 AM

P: 12/11/2008 11:00:22 AM
Lorelei Ideal Rock Total Posts: 34,228 Last Post: 11/23/2009 Member Since: 4/30/2005	Date: 12/11/2008 10:58:00 AM Author: anarchy both is eye clean actually my targetted carat size is .78 with F and SI2 for $3000. Do you think I should hold and carry on searching? I'm going to propose at the last week of Jan 09.... You said you preferred the second diamond, you have checked both are eyeclean, so consider that one. As to prices it is hard to say what they will do so I would purchase as and when or if you have found a diamond you like. Nothing is more sacred as the bond between horse and rider...no other creature can ever become so emotionally close to a human as a horse. When a horse dies, the memory lives on because an enormous part of his owner's heart, soul, very existence dies also...but that can never be laid to rest, it is not meant to be... - Stephanie M Thorn
Posted: 12/11/2008 11:00:22 AM

P: 12/11/2008 11:04:26 AM
Skippy123 Ideal Rock Total Posts: 19,828 Last Post: 11/23/2009 Member Since: 11/24/2006	Both those are gorgeous but did you see this one that is a .78 F SI1 in under $3k? http://www.jamesallen.com/diamonds/F-SI1-Ideal-Cut-Round-Diamond-1197133.asp?b=16&a=12&c=77&cid=131 Not sure if it is eyeclean, though. With the 2 up top you shouldn't see a big difference in size though so those would be gorgeous. Skippy "The only things that stand between a person and what they want in life are the will to try it, and the faith to believe it's possible" Rich Devos
Posted: 12/11/2008 11:04:26 AM

P: 12/11/2008 11:31:30 AM
anarchy Rough Rock Total Posts: 10 Last Post: 12/27/2008 Member Since: 12/10/2008	this seems to be a very good competition against the F Si2 and it matches my requirement. i have spoke to JA, Josh that this is an eyeclean piece.
Posted: 12/11/2008 11:31:30 AM

P: 12/12/2008 3:22:47 AM
goldenbear Rough Rock Total Posts: 5 Last Post: 12/17/2008 Member Since: 12/12/2008	Hello Anarchy, Im new to the forums on pricescope so I dont know what kind of response this will get but here it is....... I just recently got a stone from Shane Co. for $2300 .72 VS1 H GIA certified cut very good I looked hard but bang for the buck this was it for me. I also looked at the jewelry exchange gift center,,,,, but they were all similarly priced compared with Shane Co. not all but most stones. You may want to check them out they also give lifetime warranty on it... very friendly place
Posted: 12/12/2008 3:22:47 AM

P: 12/12/2008 9:26:18 AM
anarchy Rough Rock Total Posts: 10 Last Post: 12/27/2008 Member Since: 12/10/2008	hmm it seem that you sacrifice the cut for cost... The cut for me must be ideal H&A follow by cost, color and clarity The hunt continue...
Posted: 12/12/2008 9:26:18 AM

P: 12/12/2008 11:34:40 AM
MC Ideal Rock Total Posts: 8,848 Last Post: 11/23/2009 Member Since: 2/8/2003	Date: 12/12/2008 3:22:47 AM Author: goldenbear I just recently got a stone from Shane Co. for $2300 .72 VS1 H GIA certified cut very good The OP is looking at ideal cut stones. Cut is the biggest factor in a well cut stone and prices may reflect that. (Almost all of us here will pay more to get a better cut stone because they show more sparkle and life. )
Posted: 12/12/2008 11:34:40 AM

P: 12/12/2008 4:57:45 PM
goldenbear Rough Rock Total Posts: 5 Last Post: 12/17/2008 Member Since: 12/12/2008	to be honest Im not sure on the cut of the stone but it shines very well in natural light so dunno. I looked at it from the side an it was neither too flat nor too narrow. compared several diamonds with similar specs all next to eachother and it outshined all of them remember its all in the eye of the beholder......
Posted: 12/12/2008 4:57:45 PM

P: 12/12/2008 9:44:01 PM
NeverEndingUpgrade Ideal Rock Total Posts: 1,537 Last Post: 11/23/2009 Member Since: 10/3/2007	I have an H/SI1 so I am partial to that combo!
Posted: 12/12/2008 9:44:01 PM

P: 12/13/2008 12:22:36 AM
Dancing Fire Ideal Rock Total Posts: 10,224 Last Post: 11/23/2009 Member Since: 4/3/2004	Date: 12/12/2008 3:22:47 AM Author: goldenbear Hello Anarchy, Im new to the forums on pricescope so I dont know what kind of response this will get but here it is....... I just recently got a stone from Shane Co. for $2300 .72 VS1 H GIA certified cut very good I looked hard but bang for the buck this was it for me. I also looked at the jewelry exchange gift center,,,,, but they were all similarly priced compared with Shane Co. not all but most stones. You may want to check them out they also give lifetime warranty on it... very friendly place hmmm....sounds too cheap. it is always harder to find a "mind clean" stone than a eye clean stone.
Posted: 12/13/2008 12:22:36 AM

P: 12/13/2008 2:35:15 AM
goldenbear Rough Rock Total Posts: 5 Last Post: 12/17/2008 Member Since: 12/12/2008	My point exactly...... sounds cheap because compared to 3000 it is cheaper....but like I said im not sure what the cut was specifically. What I do know is that I compared them to other similar diamonds in spec and it outshined them all with great performance.... what do you mean by harder to find a mind clean stone than a eye clean stone???? for me i found both...
Posted: 12/13/2008 2:35:15 AM

P: 12/13/2008 2:53:59 AM
goldenbear Rough Rock Total Posts: 5 Last Post: 12/17/2008 Member Since: 12/12/2008	Based on your two choices anarchy I would say.............. The cut you have chosen is excelent so Im sure the performance on both is beyond great!!!! Congradulations.......
Posted: 12/13/2008 2:53:59 AM

P: 12/13/2008 9:50:50 AM
pauly1 Cut Rock Total Posts: 381 Last Post: 3/6/2009 Member Since: 1/11/2007	Don't be put-off by SIs, you can find some amazing values, IF YOU'RE PATIENT. Remember that All SIs are not equal though. I'm an H / SI2 owner and couldn't be happier. Good luck.
Posted: 12/13/2008 9:50:50 AM

P: 12/13/2008 9:04:30 PM
Dancing Fire Ideal Rock Total Posts: 10,224 Last Post: 11/23/2009 Member Since: 4/3/2004	Date: 12/13/2008 2:35:15 AM Author: goldenbear My point exactly...... sounds cheap because compared to 3000 it is cheaper....but like I said im not sure what the cut was specifically. What I do know is that I compared them to other similar diamonds in spec and it outshined them all with great performance.... what do you mean by harder to find a mind clean stone than a eye clean stone???? for me i found both... what i meant is....knowing that the inclusions are there,but will it bother your mind if the stone is eye clean. it is always harder to find a "mind clean" stone than a eye clean stone.
Posted: 12/13/2008 9:04:30 PM

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