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P: 12/10/2008 8:47:08 PM
About2ask Rough Rock Total Posts: 39 Last Post: 11/17/2009 Member Since: 11/18/2008	As I learn more and more about color, articles and posts will say "you can't tell the difference between a F and G." Then, "you can't tell the difference between a H and G, go lower for more carat." I do believe all of you guys, don't get me wrong, but is there a site that shows actual diamond pictures under normal lighting? Basically I am asking to see the photos (like shown on here)so I can get natural point of view instead of a microscope with black background. I really want to see the difference myself for each color. Sorry if this post is confusing, but hopefully I was clear enough. Thanks!
Posted: 12/10/2008 8:47:08 PM

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P: 12/10/2008 8:54:46 PM
JoeNewbie11 Cut Rock Total Posts: 246 Last Post: 11/21/2009 Member Since: 3/27/2008	check out GoodOldGold, they have a lot of info for you to chew on: http://www.goodoldgold.com/4Cs/Color/NearColorless/ Good Luck! - Joe in Caifornia
Posted: 12/10/2008 8:54:46 PM

P: 12/10/2008 8:58:13 PM
jsm Ideal Rock Total Posts: 529 Last Post: 11/20/2009 Member Since: 3/17/2008	Great link, Joe! I wouldn't mind a J at all! ** April 3, 2009 *
Posted: 12/10/2008 8:58:13 PM

P: 12/10/2008 9:33:33 PM
About2ask Rough Rock Total Posts: 39 Last Post: 11/17/2009 Member Since: 11/18/2008	Date: 12/10/2008 8:54:46 PM Author: JoeNewbie11 check out GoodOldGold, they have a lot of info for you to chew on: http://www.goodoldgold.com/4Cs/Color/NearColorless/ Good Luck! Wow, that response could not have been more dead-on! Thank you so much!
Posted: 12/10/2008 9:33:33 PM

P: 12/10/2008 9:46:55 PM
amyjokerette Cut Rock Total Posts: 307 Last Post: 9/19/2009 Member Since: 9/5/2008	Heres the images from GoodOldGold AmyJokerette: Former maul store shopper... newly converted PS perfectionist!
Posted: 12/10/2008 9:46:55 PM

P: 12/10/2008 10:14:27 PM
dingy Rough Rock Total Posts: 9 Last Post: 1/10/2009 Member Since: 11/17/2008	I have a few monitors on my desk for work, so I opened the above link on all of them. I had previously tweaked all the colors and brightness by hand to make them similar next to one another. The minor differences between each were more than enough to make a J on one monitor look like an H on another (worst case). Which one is more accurate? I don't have the calibration tools to figure out, but since both screens look excellent otherwise I'm pretty sure the only way to know for sure is to see color examples in person If using an LCD, minor changes in viewing angle will also change the color enough to mistake a color grade up or down a notch. This is a lame realization for me too, as I've only been shopping on the internet. Its hard not to trust the screen in front of your face =\
Posted: 12/10/2008 10:14:27 PM

P: 12/10/2008 10:29:27 PM
summertime Cut Rock Total Posts: 182 Last Post: 11/19/2009 Member Since: 12/6/2008	Date: 12/10/2008 10:14:27 PM Author: dingy I have a few monitors on my desk for work, so I opened the above link on all of them. I had previously tweaked all the colors and brightness by hand to make them similar next to one another. The minor differences between each were more than enough to make a J on one monitor look like an H on another (worst case). Which one is more accurate? I don't have the calibration tools to figure out, but since both screens look excellent otherwise I'm pretty sure the only way to know for sure is to see color examples in person If using an LCD, minor changes in viewing angle will also change the color enough to mistake a color grade up or down a notch. This is a lame realization for me too, as I've only been shopping on the internet. Its hard not to trust the screen in front of your face = I completely agree! I have also done most of my shopping online so far, to make sure I know what I'm looking for when I go in, and I can't decide between a G and an H. I've been going through the Forum Engagement Ring Folder, and sometimes I see H's that look so white I think, "I'd love to have that!" But then on others I can see a slight tint, which I think I might obsess over if my diamond had it. Like most people, I want the whitest, best stone for my $, so I guess we're just gonna have to wait to compare for sure in person! Good luck!
Posted: 12/10/2008 10:29:27 PM

P: 12/10/2008 10:30:57 PM
Fly Girl Ideal Rock Total Posts: 3,757 Last Post: 11/21/2009 Member Since: 1/9/2007	Remember, the actual diamond will be the size of a tiny corner of those pictures. It will be set, and in constant motion. From a face up view, most of what you will see is reflected light, and not the body color of the diamond. Add it all up, and no one is going to be able to tell a G from an H when a woman is wearing a ring. **** Life is a Journey, not a Destination. ****
Posted: 12/10/2008 10:30:57 PM

P: 12/10/2008 10:31:47 PM
CharmyPoo Ideal Rock Total Posts: 1,578 Last Post: 11/22/2009 Member Since: 12/10/2004	Watch this video - http://www.vimeo.com/2093560 - another excellent GOG resource.
Posted: 12/10/2008 10:31:47 PM

P: 12/10/2008 11:03:48 PM
Garry H (Cut Nut) Ideal Rock Total Posts: 11,577 Last Post: 11/22/2009 Member Since: 8/16/2000	I think there is a little more difference in the colours our eyes see than shown in GOG's photos. I took this photo many years ago - please note there are 2 color differences until H, and then I and J without the gap - this shows how little difference there is at the top end and how big the difference is at the lower end. Also be aware that a well cut round or baguette can face up with less color and a fancy like a radiant or cushion can face up as a lower color than what you see through the sides. Garry Holloway FGAA DipDT HCA and Ideal-scope developer http://www.ideal-scope.com and http://www.HollowayDiamonds.com.au
Posted: 12/10/2008 11:03:48 PM

P: 12/11/2008 1:00:50 AM
Venice Cut Rock Total Posts: 229 Last Post: 11/20/2009 Member Since: 9/20/2007	Garry, I'm lovin' that D! It's Devine! Venice
Posted: 12/11/2008 1:00:50 AM

P: 12/12/2008 2:52:01 AM
Lenamama Cut Rock Total Posts: 152 Last Post: 11/22/2009 Member Since: 12/2/2008	great thread Gary... that's what i was looking for! :´¨`:.❤: Lenamama :❤.:´¨`: "Insanity: doing the same thing over and over again and expecting different results." -Albert Einstein
Posted: 12/12/2008 2:52:01 AM

P: 12/12/2008 8:17:45 AM
Indira-London Cut Rock Total Posts: 307 Last Post: 9/14/2009 Member Since: 6/17/2008	Those are really useful photos from GOG and Gary. Here is a photo of a 41+ carat L colour emerald cut diamond - given the size of this diamond and step cut of the emerald - you can see the warmer colour even face up Dr. Indira Marchant The Royal Exchange Best Diamonds
Posted: 12/12/2008 8:17:45 AM

P: 12/12/2008 8:31:39 AM
Moh 10 Ideal Rock Total Posts: 1,004 Last Post: 8/18/2009 Member Since: 10/25/2008	For pics to be useful in comparing color all of the diamonds must be in the same, pic. (Even then we hope the diamonds on one side were not closer to an open window facing blue sky or a yellow wall.) Each GOG pic is fine, alone. But once you put two pics side by side there may be a problem. Even if the same photographer used the same light and camera settings on the same day it is possible something else in the digital domain inadvertently changed one pic more than the other. Example: Scroll up and look at those GOG pics. Note the F in the top pic looks more yellow than the G in the second pic? Garry's is more useful since all stones are in the same pic. If GOG wanted to make those pics more useful they could overlap and include G in the first pic and still start the second pic with G, etc. That way the viewer could "calibrate" their eyes since comparisons in the same pic are more valid than comparisons between two pics. Cameras and software may do automatic exposure and other things behind our back that affect what we see. The designers of todays cameras and image software think they are doing us a favor. They may be when it comes to taking snapshots of the kids but people are using pics here as if they were documented proof of color to make $10,000 decisions. Photography is a mine field.
Posted: 12/12/2008 8:31:39 AM

P: 12/12/2008 8:42:12 AM
Ellen Ideal Rock Total Posts: 22,894 Last Post: 11/6/2009 Member Since: 1/13/2006	Date: 12/10/2008 8:47:08 PM Author:About2ask As I learn more and more about color, articles and posts will say 'you can't tell the difference between a F and G.' Then, 'you can't tell the difference between a H and G, go lower for more carat.' I do believe all of you guys, don't get me wrong, but is there a site that shows actual diamond pictures under normal lighting? Basically I am asking to see the photos (like shown on here)so I can get natural point of view instead of a microscope with black background. I really want to see the difference myself for each color. Sorry if this post is confusing, but hopefully I was clear enough. Thanks! Then I would suggest going to a jewelery store and having a look, at ideal cut diamonds. That's the only way you'll know for sure. In natural, diffused lighting. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ "It is also important for the State to inculcate in its subjects an aversion to any 'conspiracy theory of history' for a search for 'conspiracies' means a search for motives and an attribution of responsibility for historical misdeeds." -Murray N. Rothbard, in The Anatomy of the State John Swinton [1829-1901] Chief Editorial Writer of the New York Times (Considered "the Dean of his Profession" by his peers), when asked to toast an 'Independent Press' in a gathering at the National Press Club, circa 1880 "There is no such thing in America as an independent press unless it is in the country towns. You know it, and I know it. There is not one of you who dare express an honest opinion. If you express it you know beforehand that it would never appear in print. I am paid... for keeping my honest opinions out of the paper I am connected with. Others of you are paid similar salaries for doing similar things.... The business of the New York journalist is to distort the truth, to lie outright, to pervert, to vilify, to fawn at the feet of Mammon, and sell his country and race for his daily bread, or for what is about the same thing, his salary. You know this, and I know it and what foolery to be toasting an 'independent press.' We are tools, and the vassals of rich men behind the scenes. We are jumping-jacks. They pull the strings and we dance. Our time, our talents, our lives, our possibilities, all are the property of other men. We are intellectual prostitutes."
Posted: 12/12/2008 8:42:12 AM

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