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P: 11/28/2008 5:15:46 PM
thenextsurprise Rough Rock Total Posts: 14 Last Post: 12/25/2008 Member Since: 11/28/2008	Hey all - Longtime lurker but firstime poster. First off thanks to everyone who takes time to post here. It is such a helpful, useful treasure trove of information that i am deeply appreciative of. It has helped me get to this point... i am almost ready to pull the trigger on the following stone... the stats are below Carats: 1.12 Cut: Very Good Color: D Clarity: IF Ratio 1.25 Depth: 66.8 Table:58 Girdle:tn-tk Cutlet: None Polish and Symmetry: Very Good GIA Certified No Flourescence I plan on setting it in a legacy style bezel mount. Price on the stone is $6300 which seems good given the specs. My only thoughts have been to maybe go up to 1.5 carats and sacrifice on clarity since it will be a bezel set. Anyone have opinions on this? This diamond is near perfect, but the thought of a little more size is also appealing.... any advice would be MUCH appreciated! Hope everyone had a great thanksgiving. Cheers, Gabe
Posted: 11/28/2008 5:15:46 PM

There are 14 replies to this message. There are 14 replies on this page.

P: 11/28/2008 5:21:39 PM
CDNinNYC Ideal Rock Total Posts: 1,856 Last Post: 11/23/2009 Member Since: 10/21/2007	Hi Gabe and welcome! Do you have any photos of the cushion? It's hard to judge based on numbers alone.
Posted: 11/28/2008 5:21:39 PM

P: 11/28/2008 5:34:49 PM
DiaGem Ideal Rock Total Posts: 3,927 Last Post: 11/21/2009 Member Since: 10/21/2004	Date: 11/28/2008 5:15:46 PM Author:thenextsurprise Hey all - Longtime lurker but firstime poster. First off thanks to everyone who takes time to post here. It is such a helpful, useful treasure trove of information that i am deeply appreciative of. It has helped me get to this point... i am almost ready to pull the trigger on the following stone... the stats are below Carats: 1.12 Cut: Very Good Color: D Clarity: IF Ratio 1.25 Depth: 66.8 Table:58 Girdle:tn-tk Cutlet: None Polish and Symmetry: Very Good GIA Certified No Flourescence I plan on setting it in a legacy style bezel mount. Price on the stone is $6300 which seems good given the specs. My only thoughts have been to maybe go up to 1.5 carats and sacrifice on clarity since it will be a bezel set. Anyone have opinions on this? This diamond is near perfect, but the thought of a little more size is also appealing.... any advice would be MUCH appreciated! Hope everyone had a great thanksgiving. Cheers, Gabe Something is fishy Open both eyes!!!!! And I am not even talking about the look of the Gem... ********************** >Y< Yoram F. Antique Diamond Gem http://www.diagem.net/ "When it doesn't exist, design it..." Sir Henry Royce
Posted: 11/28/2008 5:34:49 PM

P: 11/28/2008 6:41:58 PM
neatfreak Ideal Rock Total Posts: 13,470 Last Post: 11/24/2009 Member Since: 2/17/2007	Date: 11/28/2008 5:34:49 PM Author: DiaGem Date: 11/28/2008 5:15:46 PM Author:thenextsurprise Hey all - Longtime lurker but firstime poster. First off thanks to everyone who takes time to post here. It is such a helpful, useful treasure trove of information that i am deeply appreciative of. It has helped me get to this point... i am almost ready to pull the trigger on the following stone... the stats are below Carats: 1.12 Cut: Very Good Color: D Clarity: IF Ratio 1.25 Depth: 66.8 Table:58 Girdle:tn-tk Cutlet: None Polish and Symmetry: Very Good GIA Certified No Flourescence I plan on setting it in a legacy style bezel mount. Price on the stone is $6300 which seems good given the specs. My only thoughts have been to maybe go up to 1.5 carats and sacrifice on clarity since it will be a bezel set. Anyone have opinions on this? This diamond is near perfect, but the thought of a little more size is also appealing.... any advice would be MUCH appreciated! Hope everyone had a great thanksgiving. Cheers, Gabe Something is fishy Open both eyes!!!!! And I am not even talking about the look of the Gem... Agreed. Something isn't right here. Where is this diamond being offered?
Posted: 11/28/2008 6:41:58 PM

P: 11/28/2008 6:53:49 PM
thenextsurprise Rough Rock Total Posts: 14 Last Post: 12/25/2008 Member Since: 11/28/2008	Hey all - Further information... I found this stone browsing through the premium loose diamond section at engagementringsdirect.com which I thought was a reputable source based on reading on this site. Since I live in new york, I was going to visit in person to take a look. Guessing by the response, this may be too good to be true...
Posted: 11/28/2008 6:53:49 PM

P: 11/28/2008 7:05:41 PM
thenextsurprise Rough Rock Total Posts: 14 Last Post: 12/25/2008 Member Since: 11/28/2008	Here is the link.... http://engagementringsdirect.com/loose_detail.php/session/423e0a5d8ec42a99d110eacea81d8dfc/id/18209925/sz/150 I am also looking to work with erd on the setting. need to call them tomorrow... thoughts?
Posted: 11/28/2008 7:05:41 PM

P: 11/28/2008 7:06:00 PM
neatfreak Ideal Rock Total Posts: 13,470 Last Post: 11/24/2009 Member Since: 2/17/2007	Date: 11/28/2008 6:53:49 PM Author: thenextsurprise Hey all - Further information... I found this stone browsing through the premium loose diamond section at engagementringsdirect.com which I thought was a reputable source based on reading on this site. Since I live in new york, I was going to visit in person to take a look. Guessing by the response, this may be too good to be true... Huh. Interesting. I wonder if it's a typo then. Certainly does seem too good to be true, but at the same time Mark is a wonderful and honest vendor (my ring in my avatar is from him), so it wouldn't be an intentional rip off. I would just ask Mark about it. He'll be honest with you.
Posted: 11/28/2008 7:06:00 PM

P: 11/28/2008 7:11:28 PM
thenextsurprise Rough Rock Total Posts: 14 Last Post: 12/25/2008 Member Since: 11/28/2008	thanks - would you happen to have his (mark's) direct contact information?
Posted: 11/28/2008 7:11:28 PM

P: 11/29/2008 3:02:10 AM
Lorelei Ideal Rock Total Posts: 34,254 Last Post: 11/24/2009 Member Since: 4/30/2005	Date: 11/28/2008 6:41:58 PM Author: neatfreak Date: 11/28/2008 5:34:49 PM Author: DiaGem Date: 11/28/2008 5:15:46 PM Author:thenextsurprise Hey all - Longtime lurker but firstime poster. First off thanks to everyone who takes time to post here. It is such a helpful, useful treasure trove of information that i am deeply appreciative of. It has helped me get to this point... i am almost ready to pull the trigger on the following stone... the stats are below Carats: 1.12 Cut: Very Good Color: D Clarity: IF Ratio 1.25 Depth: 66.8 Table:58 Girdle:tn-tk Cutlet: None Polish and Symmetry: Very Good GIA Certified No Flourescence I plan on setting it in a legacy style bezel mount. Price on the stone is $6300 which seems good given the specs. My only thoughts have been to maybe go up to 1.5 carats and sacrifice on clarity since it will be a bezel set. Anyone have opinions on this? This diamond is near perfect, but the thought of a little more size is also appealing.... any advice would be MUCH appreciated! Hope everyone had a great thanksgiving. Cheers, Gabe Something is fishy Open both eyes!!!!! And I am not even talking about the look of the Gem... Agreed. Something isn't right here. Where is this diamond being offered? Threegreed... I think the email info for Mark is Mark@engagementringsdirect.com See if that works, if not then Neat should have the right info when she comes in later. Phone # - 1-877-342-7464 Nothing is more sacred as the bond between horse and rider...no other creature can ever become so emotionally close to a human as a horse. When a horse dies, the memory lives on because an enormous part of his owner's heart, soul, very existence dies also...but that can never be laid to rest, it is not meant to be... - Stephanie M Thorn
Posted: 11/29/2008 3:02:10 AM

P: 11/29/2008 7:57:18 AM
neatfreak Ideal Rock Total Posts: 13,470 Last Post: 11/24/2009 Member Since: 2/17/2007	Date: 11/29/2008 3:02:10 AM Author: Lorelei Date: 11/28/2008 6:41:58 PM Author: neatfreak Date: 11/28/2008 5:34:49 PM Author: DiaGem Date: 11/28/2008 5:15:46 PM Author:thenextsurprise Hey all - Longtime lurker but firstime poster. First off thanks to everyone who takes time to post here. It is such a helpful, useful treasure trove of information that i am deeply appreciative of. It has helped me get to this point... i am almost ready to pull the trigger on the following stone... the stats are below Carats: 1.12 Cut: Very Good Color: D Clarity: IF Ratio 1.25 Depth: 66.8 Table:58 Girdle:tn-tk Cutlet: None Polish and Symmetry: Very Good GIA Certified No Flourescence I plan on setting it in a legacy style bezel mount. Price on the stone is $6300 which seems good given the specs. My only thoughts have been to maybe go up to 1.5 carats and sacrifice on clarity since it will be a bezel set. Anyone have opinions on this? This diamond is near perfect, but the thought of a little more size is also appealing.... any advice would be MUCH appreciated! Hope everyone had a great thanksgiving. Cheers, Gabe Something is fishy Open both eyes!!!!! And I am not even talking about the look of the Gem... Agreed. Something isn't right here. Where is this diamond being offered? Threegreed... I think the email info for Mark is Mark@engagementringsdirect.com See if that works, if not then Neat should have the right info when she comes in later. Phone # - 1-877-342-7464 That should be the right contact info. But remember that it's Saturday and most of the diamond district is closed today. Mark may or may not respond before next week. And try calling if you can it's easier to get the info you need that way.
Posted: 11/29/2008 7:57:18 AM

P: 11/29/2008 8:10:53 AM
Lorelei Ideal Rock Total Posts: 34,254 Last Post: 11/24/2009 Member Since: 4/30/2005	Thanks Neat and good morning! Nothing is more sacred as the bond between horse and rider...no other creature can ever become so emotionally close to a human as a horse. When a horse dies, the memory lives on because an enormous part of his owner's heart, soul, very existence dies also...but that can never be laid to rest, it is not meant to be... - Stephanie M Thorn
Posted: 11/29/2008 8:10:53 AM

P: 11/29/2008 9:49:42 AM
thenextsurprise Rough Rock Total Posts: 14 Last Post: 12/25/2008 Member Since: 11/28/2008	Thanks, I'll be giving him a ring. Another quick question - from what i have read it seems that most on here in cushion world have seemed willing to go lower on clarity (as far down as SI2) on cushions. Considering i am planning on a bezel set, would you agree that clarity is of less importance than color/cut for a cushion in general? I am just preparing myself for the inevitability that the stone reference in this column is too good to be true, and thinking i can go up in carat, and down in clarity and not sacrifice much. Obviously would want to keep color/cut at d/e and very good. Thanks! Gabe
Posted: 11/29/2008 9:49:42 AM

P: 11/29/2008 10:38:01 AM
neatfreak Ideal Rock Total Posts: 13,470 Last Post: 11/24/2009 Member Since: 2/17/2007	Date: 11/29/2008 9:49:42 AM Author: thenextsurprise Thanks, I'll be giving him a ring. Another quick question - from what i have read it seems that most on here in cushion world have seemed willing to go lower on clarity (as far down as SI2) on cushions. Considering i am planning on a bezel set, would you agree that clarity is of less importance than color/cut for a cushion in general? I am just preparing myself for the inevitability that the stone reference in this column is too good to be true, and thinking i can go up in carat, and down in clarity and not sacrifice much. Obviously would want to keep color/cut at d/e and very good. Thanks! Gabe You can drop clarity QUITE a bit from IF and still get a gorgeous stone. How much depends on the stone, but Mark will be able to advise you well. Some people like VS2's for the "mind clean" issue while some people will happily drop down to SI2. It's all a personal preference and depends entirely on the stone itself. My ring (in my avatar) is similar to what you want (Mark made it BTW) and it's a G VS2. It's a gorgeous stone and you'd never know there were any inclusions or that it wasn't technically "colorless". It's just beautiful!
Posted: 11/29/2008 10:38:01 AM

P: 11/29/2008 10:51:45 AM
Lorelei Ideal Rock Total Posts: 34,254 Last Post: 11/24/2009 Member Since: 4/30/2005	Date: 11/29/2008 10:38:01 AM Author: neatfreak Date: 11/29/2008 9:49:42 AM Author: thenextsurprise Thanks, I'll be giving him a ring. Another quick question - from what i have read it seems that most on here in cushion world have seemed willing to go lower on clarity (as far down as SI2) on cushions. Considering i am planning on a bezel set, would you agree that clarity is of less importance than color/cut for a cushion in general? I am just preparing myself for the inevitability that the stone reference in this column is too good to be true, and thinking i can go up in carat, and down in clarity and not sacrifice much. Obviously would want to keep color/cut at d/e and very good. Thanks! Gabe You can drop clarity QUITE a bit from IF and still get a gorgeous stone. How much depends on the stone, but Mark will be able to advise you well. Some people like VS2's for the 'mind clean' issue while some people will happily drop down to SI2. It's all a personal preference and depends entirely on the stone itself. My ring (in my avatar) is similar to what you want (Mark made it BTW) and it's a G VS2. It's a gorgeous stone and you'd never know there were any inclusions or that it wasn't technically 'colorless'. It's just beautiful! Ditto! Nothing is more sacred as the bond between horse and rider...no other creature can ever become so emotionally close to a human as a horse. When a horse dies, the memory lives on because an enormous part of his owner's heart, soul, very existence dies also...but that can never be laid to rest, it is not meant to be... - Stephanie M Thorn
Posted: 11/29/2008 10:51:45 AM

P: 12/25/2008 10:00:14 AM
thenextsurprise Rough Rock Total Posts: 14 Last Post: 12/25/2008 Member Since: 11/28/2008	AN UPDATE! Worked with mark and got the stone! pictures here! Proposing Monday! Happy Holidays.... Gabe http://www.pricescope.com/idealbb/view.asp?topicID=103069
Posted: 12/25/2008 10:00:14 AM

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