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Well, I'm not any of those people but I just wanted to comment that it looks like a pretty stone! I don't see any dark or dead areas and the faceting looks nice. If this is the one I think it is, the price seems good to me too. And it isn't showing a lot of color to my eye. JMO but I like it.

ETA: Just wanted to point out that if this is the one I think it is, it has a 59% table - not sure if a smaller table is important to you so just wanted to mention it.

Written by junebug17 » April 19th, 2012, 9:15 am:Well, I'm not any of those people but I just wanted to comment that it looks like a pretty stone! I don't see any dark or dead areas and the faceting looks nice. If this is the one I think it is, the price seems good to me too. And it isn't showing a lot of color to my eye. JMO but I like it.

Junebug. Thank you...I forget all the OEC experts... I welcome the feedback! This is much harder than I thought it would be. As we know from some of my posts!

Written by Mayk » April 19th, 2012, 9:21 am:

Written by junebug17 » April 19th, 2012, 9:15 am:Well, I'm not any of those people but I just wanted to comment that it looks like a pretty stone! I don't see any dark or dead areas and the faceting looks nice. If this is the one I think it is, the price seems good to me too. And it isn't showing a lot of color to my eye. JMO but I like it.

Junebug. Thank you...I forget all the OEC experts... I welcome the feedback! This is much harder than I thought it would be. As we know from some of my posts!

Oh mayk, I am far, far, far from an expert! I just love older stones and wanted to share my thoughts! I think with these older cuts sometimes it comes down to how the stone looks in person and if it's pleasing to you. It will be interesting to hear other opinions!

It looks like a nice tranny I don't see any evidence of ring of death or fish eye, two of the issues you can sometimes get with trannies because they are shallower and have larger tables.

Who is the vendor and what is the price?

Written by Dreamer_D » April 19th, 2012, 9:34 am:It looks like a nice tranny I don't see any evidence of ring of death or fish eye, two of the issues you can sometimes get with trannies because they are shallower and have larger tables.

Who is the vendor and what is the price?

Hi Dreamer! It's JbEG. $8,925. I like my pictures better... Sorry Grace!

Written by Mayk » April 19th, 2012, 9:37 am:

Written by Dreamer_D » April 19th, 2012, 9:34 am:It looks like a nice tranny I don't see any evidence of ring of death or fish eye, two of the issues you can sometimes get with trannies because they are shallower and have larger tables.

Who is the vendor and what is the price?

Hi Dreamer! It's JbEG. $8,925. I like my pictures better... Sorry Grace!

Mayk, that was my first thought...I think the stone looks nicer in your pics!

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Written by Mayk » April 19th, 2012, 9:37 am:

Written by Dreamer_D » April 19th, 2012, 9:34 am:It looks like a nice tranny I don't see any evidence of ring of death or fish eye, two of the issues you can sometimes get with trannies because they are shallower and have larger tables.

Who is the vendor and what is the price?

Hi Dreamer! It's JbEG. $8,925. I like my pictures better... Sorry Grace!

Price seems on par with OWD. You know I am going to say it is higher than you can pay elsewhere But that is your choice. It looks like a nicely cut stone, though your own eyes are better for judging that.

You might consider an independent appraiser to make surey you are paying fair value. I recommend Dave Atlas for this type of purchase, he is fair and fast and knows old cuts and the market. A friend recently used him and liked him the best of all the appraisers she has used. If you bought it for like $4k an appraiser might not be required, but at that price point I would not mess around personally.

Dreamer,

Pricing is about the same as what I am finding everywhere I look... I have looked at a number of items closely:

OWD - the ring on Adam's home page with the sapphire halo (smaller but lovely center stone.. I love.. but it's in 14Kt which I don't want and I wasn't planning on a halo for this ring.. I want a simple/plain bezel)
Lang Antiques: http://www.langantiques.com/products/item/10-1-4188
Etsy: http://www.etsy.com/listing/74762611/181ct-diamond-1920s-platinum-vintage - there is a weird reflection in the bottom of this stone that bothers me...
Ebay: http://www.ebay.com/itm/1940s-TRANSITIONAL-CUT-1-95CT-K-VS2-RETRO-DECO-PLATINUM-IDEAL-BRILLIANT-RING-/220876395537?pt=US_Fine_Rings&hash=item336d425411#ht_741wt_1165 (the reason there are more pictures.. I asked for them)

I also studied the 1.79 on JbEG website and waiting too long to look at the 1.73 that just sold.... The new one she has that is 2ct is lovely but WAY out of my price range!!!

not to mention the stuff I found at the local shop....

I keep hoping to find a screaming deal.. and I have bid on a couple of items on ebay.. but they always climb above my threshold for "ebay risks"....

As I have said.. this is so much harder than I thought it would be.. I see the beautiful stones here.. I would love to find a screaming deal. My adjusted goal as I have searched has been.. as close to $9000 as I can get and as close to 2 cts in the J,K,L,M ish range and eye clean.. without a large Culet..

I think it is a beautiful transitional, I love the warmth!

Its gorgeous!!!

I don't know squat to be able to give you an expert opinion but I know tons about what makes my eyes happy --- and that's workin' for me!!! I love the size of the diamond on your hand and it has a beautiful warmth to it that also seems to face up very bright white in some of your shots. Price wise, according to the experts, its in line (or slightly above) with what other comparable stones are retailing for.

I love the bezel idea - WG? RG? YG?

Have you finalized your setting ideas yet? Singlestone? JbEG? any others???

ah ---- Florida sunshine.... so jealous!

Enerchi...these are the things that I love about your opinions... I feel a kindred spirit... I only know what my eyes like...

I have no idea..on a setting. Or maybe I have several but nothing specific... the thrill will be in "the hunt"

... and I think you have to go with what your eyes and your gut tell you, after you've done your due diligence of course! That really does look beautiful, it seems to fit your requirement bill and there are OEC/Trannie experts here who have given it a good report, so it seems like it has PS approval!! (at least that's the impression I get from reading the posts... )

Are you thrilled out of your mind when you look at it and think there is no better diamond on earth than this one??? (or maybe a slightly modified version of that response - ) because if yes, then go for it. There will ALWAYS be other diamonds that you will look at but if this one makes you happy, that's what counts!

It would make ME happy! But I'm such a magpie - I can't resist anything that sparkles!

Well Enerchi...I'm also a magpie. It's mine as it worked for me. I learned a bunch including about the Kozbie effect that everyone likes...that I found I do not care for....not sure what that says about me since I believe it means it's a well cut stone... It's a little like I tell my niece who is an interior decorator... All my taste is in my mouth....

Grace was very good to me and for a little more money at a retail price I will sleep well at night Of course it's going to hang out with Grace for a little while on lay-a-way...also a bonus.... Then into a plain setting while I plan and save for a forever setting for it....Forevre until my kids get it and decide yes...mom's taste was all in her mouth!

Written by Mayk » April 20th, 2012, 5:57 am:Well Enerchi...I'm also a magpie. It's mine as it worked for me. I learned a bunch including about the Kozbie effect that everyone likes...that I found I do not care for....not sure what that says about me since I believe it means it's a well cut stone... It's a little like I tell my niece who is an interior decorator... All my taste is in my mouth....

Grace was very good to me and for a little more money at a retail price I will sleep well at night Of course it's going to hang out with Grace for a little while on lay-a-way...also a bonus.... Then into a plain setting while I plan and save for a forever setting for it....Forevre until my kids get it and decide yes...mom's taste was all in her mouth! :bigsmile:

I love a lay away plan as well! I'm sure with all of the PS guidance available to you, we can all find you a forever setting sooner than... well... FOREVER from now!

I'm so glad that this is yours and you are happy. I'm one who can't make a decision to save her life... but once I do, and I'm on board with the plans, I'm totally confident I did the right thing. May cost a bit more, but as you say, the ability to sleep at night also has a price and sometimes, I'm ok to pay for that.

soooooo...... how long before we can plan for the setting???

[soooooo...... how long before we can plan for the setting??? :Up_to_something: [/quote]


Lay-a-way for three months.. tops.. looking all the while... and choose something in 3-6 hopefully.. God Willing and the Creek Don't Rise.. (Raised in the Deep South...clearly)...

Written by armywife13 » April 19th, 2012, 12:20 pm:I think it is a beautiful transitional, I love the warmth!

Thank you armywife.... I am also loving that.... and wasn't sure I would....

LOL!! Well, I hope your creek stays low (or whatever the appropriate wish is for that prayer! hahaha!!)

The hunt is such a fun part, isn't it? Now that you've "trapped" your diamond, are you set on a solitaire? would you purchase smaller side stones from OWD (as an example...) and make a 3 stone? Is it definitely going to be a ring and not a pendant?

WG? YG? Plat? ....

Oh.... the thrill of the hunt - I love it!!!

Ideas you are ruminating around???? spill the beans before you head off to Scottsdale! (You are living my life, FYI! I want to go to Arizona too )

LOL... I am going from Florida to Arizona.. hot to hotter... so they say... two days personal.. and the rest for work.. but I will make the most of those two days...

I really, really, really like the Julia bezel by JbEG.. with no pave'. The thought was that I would like a setting that I could wear as an engagement ring or right hand ring... (after cracking a stone in the halo.. I think there are times when something with a little less bling..would be nice) but also I could wear as a right hand ring. I also LOVE the bezels with the french cut side stones.. but I am guessing that would cost almost as much as the diamond... so right now those are my two favorites. Everything I have is Platinum or White Gold but I see all these warm stones set in Rose Gold and it's a great look.. and would probably make my diamond look BEAUTIFUL.... So.. if you see an outstanding Bezel.. I must consider... pass it along!!!! I clearly need all the help I can get..

Congratulations Mayk!!! It's a gorgeous stone! In fact, I had my eyeballs on it for a while! I'm excited for you and can't wait to see it on your finger!

I hear ya...I tried for a while to find a deal, and I just got tired of the bad pics, no return policies, restocking fees, and just not knowing if the stone was decent or not...and just didn't have the energy for buying then returning, haggling with sellers etc. I decided to go with JbEG for the peace of mind. I feel I paid a fair price in the end, and I figure I will get years of enjoyment from the stone, in addition to the fact that I'm not getting any younger and wanted some time to enjoy my diamond! I really admire those who come upon a good deal, though, and I will admit to a twinge of jealousy when I see someone score a nice stone at a really good price. It just requires more patience and time than I was willing to give.

Mayk, it's a beautiful stone! I am glad you are getting it. I think it would be gorgeous in rose gold. Can't wait to see what you decide on.

Written by junebug17 » April 20th, 2012, 3:34 pm:Congratulations Mayk!!! It's a gorgeous stone! In fact, I had my eyeballs on it for a while! I'm excited for you and can't wait to see it on your finger!

I hear ya...I tried for a while to find a deal, and I just got tired of the bad pics, no return policies, restocking fees, and just not knowing if the stone was decent or not...and just didn't have the energy for buying then returning, haggling with sellers etc. I decided to go with JbEG for the peace of mind. I feel I paid a fair price in the end, and I figure I will get years of enjoyment from the stone, in addition to the fact that I'm not getting any younger and wanted some time to enjoy my diamond! I really admire those who come upon a good deal, though, and I will admit to a twinge of jealousy when I see someone score a nice stone at a really good price. It just requires more patience and time than I was willing to give.

I second your thought process there Junebug. I am in awe of the patience of some PSers who can manage to find amazing stones after months of trials and tribulations. I know I'm not a patient person but love the end prizes! I am also uncertain about big decisions and I defer to others recommendations more so than self sourcing. I'm a chicken on eBay!

Written by Mayk » April 20th, 2012, 6:21 am:LOL... I am going from Florida to Arizona.. hot to hotter... so they say... two days personal.. and the rest for work.. but I will make the most of those two days...

I really, really, really like the Julia bezel by JbEG.. with no pave'. The thought was that I would like a setting that I could wear as an engagement ring or right hand ring... (after cracking a stone in the halo.. I think there are times when something with a little less bling..would be nice) but also I could wear as a right hand ring. I also LOVE the bezels with the french cut side stones.. but I am guessing that would cost almost as much as the diamond... so right now those are my two favorites. Everything I have is Platinum or White Gold but I see all these warm stones set in Rose Gold and it's a great look.. and would probably make my diamond look BEAUTIFUL.... So.. if you see an outstanding Bezel.. I must consider... pass it along!!!! I clearly need all the help I can get..

I think that your ideas for the setting sound great. I was actually talking with Grace yesterday about putting my oec in RG and Plat Julia bezel. Great minds think alike!

Again, congrats on the gorgeous diamond!

Written by armywife13 » April 21st, 2012, 4:55 pm:

Written by Mayk » April 20th, 2012, 6:21 am:LOL... I am going from Florida to Arizona.. hot to hotter... so they say... two days personal.. and the rest for work.. but I will make the most of those two days...

I really, really, really like the Julia bezel by JbEG.. with no pave'. The thought was that I would like a setting that I could wear as an engagement ring or right hand ring... (after cracking a stone in the halo.. I think there are times when something with a little less bling..would be nice) but also I could wear as a right hand ring. I also LOVE the bezels with the french cut side stones.. but I am guessing that would cost almost as much as the diamond... so right now those are my two favorites. Everything I have is Platinum or White Gold but I see all these warm stones set in Rose Gold and it's a great look.. and would probably make my diamond look BEAUTIFUL.... So.. if you see an outstanding Bezel.. I must consider... pass it along!!!! I clearly need all the help I can get..

I think that your ideas for the setting sound great. I was actually talking with Grace yesterday about putting my oec in RG and Plat Julia bezel. Great minds think alike!

Again, congrats on the gorgeous diamond!

Armywife.. Would you do both RG and plat? That thought popped in my head...but thought I didn't remember seeing anything like that and I sort of let it go...

Written by Mayk » April 21st, 2012, 5:40 pm:

Written by armywife13 » April 21st, 2012, 4:55 pm:

Written by Mayk » April 20th, 2012, 6:21 am:LOL... I am going from Florida to Arizona.. hot to hotter... so they say... two days personal.. and the rest for work.. but I will make the most of those two days...

I really, really, really like the Julia bezel by JbEG.. with no pave'. The thought was that I would like a setting that I could wear as an engagement ring or right hand ring... (after cracking a stone in the halo.. I think there are times when something with a little less bling..would be nice) but also I could wear as a right hand ring. I also LOVE the bezels with the french cut side stones.. but I am guessing that would cost almost as much as the diamond... so right now those are my two favorites. Everything I have is Platinum or White Gold but I see all these warm stones set in Rose Gold and it's a great look.. and would probably make my diamond look BEAUTIFUL.... So.. if you see an outstanding Bezel.. I must consider... pass it along!!!! I clearly need all the help I can get..

I think that your ideas for the setting sound great. I was actually talking with Grace yesterday about putting my oec in RG and Plat Julia bezel. Great minds think alike!

Again, congrats on the gorgeous diamond!

Armywife.. Would you do both RG and plat? That thought popped in my head...but thought I didn't remember seeing anything like that and I sort of let it go...

She and I were toying around with the idea of doing a delicate bezel and the basket in platinum and then the shank in rose gold. Grace brought it up and I have to say, I am loving the idea! Part of me is still yearning for the all platinum 8 prong version, but I have a soft spot in my heart for the rose gold

And my thoughts were exactly the opposite.. RG Bezel with Platinum everything else.... To bring out the warmth in the stone....

Written by Mayk » April 21st, 2012, 7:58 pm:And my thoughts were exactly the opposite.. RG Bezel with Platinum everything else.... To bring out the warmth in the stone....

This!

I'm with bright ice on this - RG on the bezel, platinum (or WG if you are looking at a budget) for the balance of the setting. I love RG! I have only 1 ring in RG and it makes me feel happy when I have it on. I love the warmth of it

RG gets my vote!

(how is Scottsdale??)

What do you think of doing a milgrain bezel with just the milgrain being rose gold... Then the balance being WG or platinum... Or the whole Bezel RG,?

aZ...hot, hot, hot.... It was 104 today... Yea, yea a dry heat....please! It's hot even for this Floridain...