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by kittykat » September 8th, 2005, 11:23 am
) into wanting a H&A round, I was all about the pears and ovals. Mmm, you''re taking me back to the beginning of my love of diamonds...
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Well... no, if you like it, if all else is fine with the stone so that the object is desirable... and the price falls in line. Aparently there is a reason for strong fluorescence to account for a slight discount for colorless diamonds. There is the bad memory of grading bias, and probably some amount of it left (don''t know - just in theory) but I doubt that the relative ''disdain'' for fluorescence has much to do with some visual effect. Whenever that happens, is rare so chances are this particular diamond will look great anyway. If the price is attractive now, than the question of ''value'' is not as difficult either. Are you talking about THIS diamond (GIA 14595013) ? For some reason it is listed at 33k too by other sellers, but the links do not work  ''Guess the precise price remains a bit to be talked about... |
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thanks for the input...that was one of the stones I was considering...but IT and every other stone I researched came up on the PS search as NO LONGER AVAILABLE...I had spent so much time looking at the individual vendor sites, it never occurred to me that they were still listing stones that were long gone? I can't believe I wasted my whole weekend, and ended up with no promising stones....the 2.35 pear that was sent on to D.Atlas (the one with the 1.71 ratio) had an obvious bowtie in the pictures Chris emailed me, and I am sure now that I want something closer to a 1:50 ratio...My husband was kind enough to increase my budget...so I started looking at larger stones....but I don't see much that's not spoken for....am I doing something wrong? I'm starting to not have fun...I couldn't sleep all weekend, excited and nervous, thinking I had to chose between all the interesting diamonds!!! I feel really foolish!
How in the WORLD did CFlutist find such a beautiful stone??? Does it take alot of PATIENCE or WHAT  ??Also, I can't go as high as $33K...My husband said I was price gouging him like the oil companies...made me laugh, but I got the point...I felt bad, because he has been so nice about all this... |
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You have my sympathy Molly! When we were looking for my pear, the first two we ordered online turned out to be already sold to someone else. That''s one of the downsides of virtual inventory. We gave the vendor a list of stats and it was almost like dealing with a B&M chain: they kept offering stones that were nothing like what we''d asked for (eg 0.7ct stones when we asked for 0.9).
I believe cflutist gave her vendor a list of required stats and was lucky that they came up with the perfect stone very quickly. That''s not how it goes for everyone, so the rest of us do have to be patient  Sorry to hear your 2.35 had a bowtie. As you''ve seen from the beautiful pears in this thread, it is possible to find one without a bowtie ... you just have to keep looking. In a way, it''s like finding the perfect man 
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LOL, so true, Cinnabar.  And sometimes we need to make some compromises along the way.When I decided on a pear for my upgrade, I knew it was not going to be easy. Nice ones are few and far between. I did get lucky and found almost exactly waht I wanted pretty quickly. I did have to compromise a little and get a 1.67:1 ratio although my preference is about 1.60:1, but all the other specs were exactly for me (E color, med blue fluoro, eye-clean SI2), so I grabbed it. And, most importantly, the price was right. Afterward, I went through buyer''s remorse and compared it to every pear I found for about a year, but nothing compared, so I finally felt better about the little compromise I made. Give it a little time, Molly. Finding just the right one will be that much sweeter when you do. 
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Here is a plain 1 ct pendant that is currently on it's way to me with a pair of pear .66 earrings. I plan on resetting all but not sure about how. Maybe in a 3 stone ring or use the earrings as dangle enhancers to some 1 ct studs for when I need to dress up. Not sure yet. Will post pics when the loot arrives....Maybe you guys can help with ideas. This one is a 7.5 X 5.5MM H si2
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About 1.5 : 1 L/w pear... how about this one ? There are a few others within range listed by the same shop 9I believe this is their in-store stock too), so if one doesn't do, there would be some choice. |
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I so agree with Diamonlil. Pears are probably the hardest shape because there is no one general "ideal" cut. It''s not like finding a round brilliant where there are fairly strict guidelines to what makes a good cut. I look on line and the depths, lengths to widths, and tables vary widely. I feel like I totally lucked out when I got my pear. Have fun looking -- half of the fun is in the chase! |
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Diamonds of course I love Kitty Kat''s HW style.
I have been married for 12 or 13 years, I can''t remember I will make something that could be used as either most likely.I will have to see if the pear earrings are of a similar l/w ratio and would be complimentary as sides AND how a 1 ct pear looks on my hand before I make a decision. Thanks Ladies, I will keep you updated |
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While certainly there was some luck involved, I'd say it was due a lot more to the knowledge that cflutist has, and her persistence and patience in holding out for quality over other factors, and to her relationship with the jeweler (and the many stones bought there by cflutist and her friends with her assistance). Cflutist was pretty tight on her specs that she gave to the jeweler, and they know how picky she is about her larger stones. I'd hazard a guess that they didn't even bother telling her about most of their available stones, knowing she would reject them, and I'd secondly hazard a guess that they made a call to their wholesale supplier(s) along this line - "We have a 3+ ct sale if you can get us a stone with these specs or better...". Of course the $$$$ incentive probably helped there! LOL! Anyway, hang in there Molly and keep working the vendor(s) until you get one that works well with you and for you. And hold out for the nicest stone you can get as it will be something (especially in a pear) that you will treasure for a long time. LOL, just have to tell a story here - on the Major Upgrade thread I started, I had planned to use a picture of a stone from the internet...just before I posted the start of the thread, I asked cflutist for some help in picking the picture to use... She rejected every single picture I found in pears, then every one we found in rounds, and finally all the ovals...at that point I was ready to give up - this was not even real and she was rejecting them!!!! Let's just say that I feel quite justified in never trying to suprise her with a major stone, ever....but I will give her a "you can buy this on me" card she can use when she selects her own stone...LOL! |
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Hi Molly, websailor (DH) told me about your question: To answer your question, my 3.01 F-SI1 pear has the following dimensions: 12.99 x 7.91 x 4.83 Table is 57% (1A = 55 - 60) Depth is 61.1% (1A = 59 - 63) L:W = 1.64 (trade preference is 1.50 - 1.75). As you can see, my numbers are right smack in the middle of the desirable ranges. The numbers are somewhat important but alone cannot tell you about its "shape appeal" or girdle outline as it is called during diamond grading. Things to look for under shape appeal are: UW - uneven wings (not matched on both sides) US - uneven shoulders (not matched on both sides) FW - flat wings (should form low arcs - but not so low as to look straight or flat) HS - high or square shoulders (should have a gently but distinctly rounded arch) BW - bulged Wings (tends to make stones look squat or fat) UP - undefined point (a blunt instead of sharp point) Hope you find the pear of your dreams. |
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Hello and thanks so much for the info from Cflutist !!
Here are the stats on the LATEST contender: GIA 3.02 Pear F SI1 12.27x8.30x5.22 depth 62.9 table 55 thin to thick Polish Very Good Symmetry Very Good Faint Fluor. I think it is listed on Blue Nile and there is a copy of the GIA to review...I have pictures that were sent to me, and the shape is REALLY nice, but I can't tell much else from a picture...Do you find this to be true? I could never buy a diamond based on a picture...Can't tell if the bowtie is that obvious...hoping that the decent numbers will help minimize it... I can have the stone sent here to an appraiser in my town, but I don't know of any that I would consider a diamond expert...My other option is to have it sent to Martin Fuller, but that will require me to drive 2 hours to go see it..(on interstate 95, no less, which is really a crazy road) Do you think it is the right decision to have it sent there? I would love to post the prelim pics, but I do not know how to reduce them and my husband REFUSED to help...just not interested in this diamond project!!! thank heavens for PS  Oh yeah, I think the ratio is 1:48 How I wish I had CFlutist to look at the diamond FOR me!! I loved Websailor's story about how she was rejecting all the "virtual" diamonds!!! I know that Cflutists' numbers were both right in the middle of the ranges for depth and table...this stone is basically on either end of the tables....62.9 depth and 55 table...hmmm ...I hope it won't make too much of a difference in appearance..someone tell me if they know how to reduce the pictures!! |
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I know this public post is going to be a bit cryptic, but here it goes anyway.... What a coincidence we have! Talk about the six degrees of separation!!!! Here is a perfect example! PM to follow.... |
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