Clarity or size... oh no she din''t
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And I want to reset my new diamond next year and call it a diamond day.
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I don''t really see too much of a difference with the size. Personally, I would go with the mind clean diamond unless you can find an awesome SI2 that is mind clean to you. Also if you want this diamond sooner than later, if you want it sooner go for the G SI1. If you can wait until they find the perfect SI2 (which could be a while), then you get the color upgrade you want as well as a carat upgrade as well.
 Good luck, dreamer! This is a toughie!
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The good thing is that you now both know your color limit - G. There''s no point in thinking about H or I as you know in your heart it is a G that will make you happiest. If you get the SI2 and are constantly turning and looking at the stone for the inclusions, you''ve defeated the purpose. I do think that color/clarity quality trumps size - and that is strictly my opinion. You are not talking about a small, itty bitty stone so moving down in size just a smidge won''t really matter. You may notice that it is a hair smaller but you will always see and appreciate the color/clarity that you want. Even a smaller stone that is a fireball will give you more pleasure than a larger stone that has mind clean issues.
My vote would be for the smaller, G, SI1. I think from the description of the SI2 that it is probably a beautiful stone but will always leave you wondering in terms of clarity. We know that some folks don''t care about the clarity and color as much (aren''t they soooo lucky?) but some of us do. You just have to accept your limits and deal with them. Trying to wrap your mind around a stone that already has you doubting is just counter productive IMO. If you are determined to do this now, then take what is available in the best color/clarity combo you can find. If not, you can wait a bit and see what else comes up. The gamble in that is that pricing can always go up a bit. I can almost guarantee you that in the months or years to come, you''ll wish the stone could grow a bit. I think everyone does at some point. You will just have to remember that you reached a color/clarity that you love and if the sacrifice is a bit of size, so be it. I think ultimately we all have to sacrifice on some component of a stone - size, color or clarity - but never cut. |
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Weird, in the pic I can see the color difference between the G and H. In real life, I can''t.
Here''s what I would do, get the G, S12 and have it shipped loose. Look at it in every type of lighting, really study the stone for inclusions. If you can''t see any, or what you do see doesn''t bother you, get it! You won''t really know about mind clean until you have the stone in your possesion. If the inclusions bother you, send it back and go for the slightly smaller SI1. But even then, I''d do the same thing and check the SI1 loose for inclusions. |
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I would recommend that you purchase the G SI1. It sounds like you have some doubts about the SI2, and I think that you would feel much better with a stone that you can go "ahhhh" with -- no worries! 2/10 of a millimeter is such a small difference... I think that it would be well worth your peace of mind that you have a very clean (no wondering about the inclusions) ICY WHITE DIAMOND!
 If this is your forever stone for a good long while, go with quality.
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As always, great helpful insightful comments from everyone!
 As to the style of the ring, I don't know  For the near future it will be in a simple solitaire (my current legato sleekline). In 6 months or forever, however long it takes me to decide, it will go into perhaps a semi-bezel, perhaps a bezel. I am not totally sure about the halo but need to try some more on! It will be a fun project or else I will completely lose my mind. Take your pick |
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This is an interesting concept. I looked back at the cert of my current diamond, which is totally and unequivocallyan eye clean SI1, and the plot is actually kind of nasty! Look at all the inclusions listed1 Includes buises, chips, cavity''s, laser holes and on and on. When I bought it I just asked "Is it eye clean?" and they said yes (meaning at 8-10 inches to a person with normal eye sight). I have never louped the diamond, though I may now out of curiosity. Anyways, this doesn''t bother me at all because I can''t see the inclusions. So really that is my standard I guess. Here is the messy SI1 plot of my currenty diamond.
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This is tougher with internet buying I think. But I totally get your point! |
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There are ways, but they are PITA. We are working on some possibilities because I know that is what I need to really feel confident. |
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true true true true true true. I suspect that if G is really my favourite color, then I will never leap over the 1.5ct mark, it is simply too much in my mind. I do worry that in reality, I could be totally happy with an H or I, but once you go G can you ever go back again? I really would like a bigger diamond 
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Dreamer, my new .76 is halo''ed (prong set not bezel) and the halo makes my .76 easily look like 1.5-2 carats IRL! So if you went to a smaller stone, higher color, but then haloed or bezeled it, that would give the oomph you are looking for in a bigger size without spending the moolah! Maybe I''m remembering wrong, but didn''t you want a halo but then tried on a 2 carat Lucida style and that''s your ultimate ring? |
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I thought I could too, but IRL obviously it is not as noticable. |
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LOL... "you know you are a PSer when...| |
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hahah... I think going down in size would feel worse than knowing there were inclusions in my diamond, I agree!  Honestly, H SI1 would be fine too. But in this size that is about 1k more than the GSI2! There is a huge price drop from SI1 to SI2, just like from J to K. So even though it would be totally acceptable to me, I still think the size is not possible. Again, I don''t want to increase my budget. |
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dd, I''m of the mind that you will know in your heart and in your gut which stone is right for you. For me, it was kind of like finding "the" wedding gown for me. When I saw it, I knew. End of story.
I don''t think you should try to convince yourself of anything if you''re not truly loving any diamond that''s already been offered, and again, if it were me (and I''m only speaking for myself), I couldn''t go smaller even if it was just a little bit smaller. I know from reading a past post of yours in the Hangout that you''d eventually love to own a two carat. Knowing that and knowing you from watching you create past projects, honey smaller is going to bug you! I think having patience will reap you the reward of finding exactly what you''re after for now. Leslie told me that they get stones in all the time. Granted, at certain times of the year they receive larger quantities of new stones, but your stone is out there somewhere. I''d try to be patient  . I know it''s hard. I''m talking to myself here too!
There is beauty, and then there is Bella..... http://www.pricescope.com/forum/show-me-the-ring/introducing-the-whiteflash-bella-pendant-t155624.html |
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Yes  but if I like high color that will never in a million years happen. I think I need to accept reality. If I stayed at a K I could do it, but I don't think I want to. Other priorities KWIM? I love the lucinda style setting though and will really think about it for my reset, boring as it is. Halos are so pretty but I just don't know if they are me after trying some on. It is a very delicate look and I am perhaps not such a delicate lady  But I need to go to tiffs to see some, since really the quality I would get from WF or BGD would be so good that I need to see something really high standard to know.I dd try on a plain semi bezel and it also made the diamond look/feel a lot bigger so that is something that I am thinking about too. |
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I would definitely stick with SI1s, and realistically, if a jeweler put a half dozen loose diamonds in front of you, half of which were Hs and half of which were Gs, you''d have a really hard time telling the diference. And then too, as we all know, it all depends on cut. I''d look for a H SI1 in either a AGS O or a GIA triple Ex. There is beauty, and then there is Bella..... http://www.pricescope.com/forum/show-me-the-ring/introducing-the-whiteflash-bella-pendant-t155624.html |
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See I am a very different shopper. I tried on every single gown in the city about 4 times, must have been over 100 gowns. I found many that I really liked and thought would look great! But I had in my mind that I wanted a $1200 gown but I only wanted to pay $500 Sound familiar? Well eventually I found exactly that type of gown, so I bought it and it looked great and I loved it more because it was a deal. Actually, maybe that is exactly what you are talking about  I know that if I saw this diamond in person then I would be able to make that type of gut judgement. Online, I think it is easierhahhaa.. am I really so transparent? Yes, I do think it will bug me. Even if I can''t see it I will still KNOW it! LOL! |
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Ok, if a halo is out, then I wouldn''t go smaller. You''ve said many times you really want to hit that 1.5 mark as your ideal size. Did the H/I colors that you looked at really have a tint to it? I''m sure you will love the color of the G, but then will you hate the size and regret not meeting in the middle at an ''I'' color but same size or larger? The Lucida style isn''t boring!! It''s my favorite Tiffany ring! And that style setting may help oomph your stone''s size visual as well. For me, wider settings make a diamond look slightly larger. |
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Yes, I think a realistic goal is to try and get a diamond *just* under the 1.5ct mark one day. Maybe when I get tenure! Well, for sure when I get tenure If I can hold out for 5 years.I think I color is too low for what I am after. Although it would not look tinted at all, it would not feel different enough from my current diamond, it is still a warmish white IMO. I don''t think that the H diamond we looked at had any tint. It certainly looked whiter than my current diamond, no question about that. But there is something about the G that looked crisper, more "bah boom". Maybe it was just those diamonds? Still I remember so clearly how I felt when I brought home my F color diamond (see picture). There is something so crisp about those colorless stones. There is beauty in my K no doubt (see next post), but I do prefer that crisp look if I am honest  Something that attracts me to the BGD GSi2 is that Brian says it is actually closer to an F than a G... which is why he bought it.
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