Started looking...help me choose!

[rtanner]

Hi all! I''ve read through the site and just started looking. I am looking to spend $12k - $14k for a RB stone in the 1.7-1.8ct range. I was wondering if the experts could comment on the value of the following two stones:

Stone #1:

Carat weight: 1.69
Cut: Ideal
Color: H
Clarity: VS2
Depth %: 61.0%
Table %: 57%
Crown Angle: 34.4
Pavilion Angle: 40.5
Symmetry: Ideal
Polish: Ideal
Girdle: Medium to slightly thick, faceted
Culet: None
Fluorescence: None
Measurements: 7.66x7.69x4.68 mm
Price: $12k

Stone #2:

Carat weight: 1.82
Cut: Ideal
Color: H
Clarity: VS2
Depth %: 60.5%
Table %: 56%
Crown Angle: 35.2
Pavilion Angle: 40.6
Symmetry: Ideal
Polish: Ideal
Girdle: Thin, faceted
Culet: Pointed
Fluorescence: None
Measurements: 7.93x7.96x4.81 mm
Price: $14k

Do either/both of these offer a good value for the price? Also, if you are able to suggest alternatives based on my specs and price range I''d appreciate it! I am looking primarily at H-VS2 and G-SI1. Thanks again!

-Ron

 

[pqcollectibles]

Both look like great performers. It's a win/win decision between these 2! The 1.8 will have a larger visual appearance.

As an alternate, I found you an 1.754, H, SI1, with a very clean looking Cert Plot priced at $12348.

http://www.dirtcheapdiamonds.com/diamond_detail.cfm?did=6946082

Good luck!! Tough choice!!

 

[diamondsman]

The numbers look nice,
Who certified it? G.I.A,E.G.L,AGS.
Price is a little high.

 

[rtanner]

They are both AGS-certified...if it's high, do you have any alternatives to recommend? Thanks!

 

[Mara]

Hmm I don't think the pricing is high at all.




I personally like the numbers on the first stone a little better but both should be beautiful!!

PQ's option is very nice as well, kind of a bigger size and less on clarity, if its eye clean it would be a great deal. I prefer SI's if it lets me get a similar well-cut stone for more carat weight and same price.




Good luck and great eye!

 

[Mara]

Other options. Note the 2nd VS2, very similar to your first stone and its almost same price.






http://www.niceice.com/certcopies/gia13103623/index.htm


1.74 H SI1 AGS0 $11170




and




http://www.niceice.com/certcopies/ags0003651309/index.htm


1.62 H VS2 AGS0 $11700




and




http://www.whiteflash.com/diamonds/diamond_Details.aspx?itemcode=GIA-12927331#


1.65 H SI1 AGS0 $10200 (Pscope price): check out that IdealScope!

 

[rtanner]

I am leaning towards the first stone. Here's the cert. Any additional comments? Does the fact that the inclusions show up only on the bottom view of the diagram mean they are not at all visible from the top?

 

[rtanner]

Here's another stone I am considering....would definitely welcome any feedback:

Round
1.88
H VS2
GIA
Depth 61.1
Table 56
7.97-8.03x4.89
md-
no
ex ex
no
Crown: 14.8%
Pavilion: 42.9%
Cutlet: 0.8%

$13.3k

Comments?
Thanks!

 

[rtanner]

The crown pavilion angles on the above stone are 34.8 and 40.9 and it scores a 1.7 on the HCA. Is that too high? Decent cuts in the 1.7-1.9ct range have been hard to find and this seems like a pretty good price, so I don't want to pass it up if it will perform. Thanks for your help guys!

-Ron

 

[Mara]

The angles look good and the HCA is a very good score. Price is nice too. Seems like a winner if you feel that it is a good purchase. Have you seen it in person? Can you get pictures, Scope images, anything to finalize?

 

[rtanner]

I have Whiteflash bringing the stone in to take a look...I will post pics when I receive them! Thanks!

 

[rtanner]

I've been hornswaggled!

Despite the fact that we put Whiteflash put the stone on hold for me, the wholesaler sold the 1.88 to someone else! Back to the drawing board...

 

[diamondsman]

yes these sizes sell fast these days,my advise is that you choose 3 stones that are to your likings, just in case the first ones are sold,and check the web.

 

[Mara]

Disappointing!!




Are you still checking into the 1.74 at NiceIce?




Also, WhiteFlash has added new inventory recently to their round ideal cuts...some nice stuff.




One that was catching my eye was an ideal cut 1.84 J VS2 stone with medium blue fluor. Brian said it faced up pretty darn nicely...I expect that the medium fluor and excellent cut is probably making it a light I. I would get more information on it and it's inhouse. Oh and its something like $8800.

 

[valeria101]

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On 3/19/2004 3:06:00 PM rtanner wrote:


I am leaning towards the first stone. Does the fact that the inclusions show up only on the bottom view of the diagram mean they are not at all visible from the top?
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Yes... this is what the diagram tries to say. Some may want the girdle "thin" but I would not consider this a major detraction. Souds like a nice stone to me

And here are two intriguing finds at Abazias:
Stock #7086022 AGS0 1.73 H SI1 $10,559 cert:AGS
Stock #2312881 H&A 1.90 G SI1 $14,514 cert:AGS

And at Dirtcheap

Stock #6946082 AGS0 1.75 H SI1 $12,348 cert:AGS (HCA 1.9)

and my winner would be:
Stock #6937316 AGS0 2.19 F SI2 $16,145 cert:AGS (HCA 1 !)
All I can see in the magnified picture of this one are some awesome arrows and a couple of specs near the girdle... at 10 o'clock.

Tempting ?

 

[rtanner]

Ok, I found another very promising stone and would like some feedback!


Round
1.80 H SI1
GIA
60.9 Depth
55 Table
Crown: 35.2
Pavilion: 40.7
7.89-7.91x4.81
Thin to Medium - Faceted
Ex/Ex Polish/Symmetry
Cutlet - None
No Fluorescence
HCA: 1.4

Price seems reasonable at $11.3k What do you guys think?

 

[rtanner]

Some more images...

 

[diamondsman]

beautiful stone, price should be a bit below 11,000.

ideal make, real beauty.

 

[rtanner]

Thanks...any more opinions? I want to get back to them today so I don't lose another one