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How is my cut? (2.03 Princess H VS1)

gemshopper12

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Hello all! Hoping some of the pro's can help me make my decision. I have a cc deposit down on the following stone.

Princess Cut, H, VS1
2.03 Carats
Measurements 7.01 - 6.99 X 5.01 MM
Depth: 71.5%
Table: 72%
Crown Height: 10%
Pavilion Depth: 58%
Girdle Thickness: Medium, Polished

Polish: Very Good
Symmetry: Very Good
Culet: None

EGL- Cert

How do the cut proportions look? Too much table? I saw the stone in person under a microscope and the flaws are very difficult to see, almost non-existent. I know it's EGL and that's a big no-no, but it's a local store and finding a stone that size in stock too look at is pretty rare. Do you think the jeweler would be open to get it GIA certified? There is a 7-day return policy, and I could take it to a GIA gemologist to take a look at it.

Is it a decent deal at 13.5k? Thanks in advance!
 

Gypsy

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Nope. Pass on EGL. [URL='https://www.pricescope.com/community/threads/egl-certification-are-any-of-them-ok.142863/']https://www.pricescope.com/community/threads/egl-certification-are-any-of-them-ok.142863/[/URL] and [URL='https://www.pricescope.com/community/threads/been-wondering-when-this-would-happen-lawsuit-over-grading.204318/']https://www.pricescope.com/community/threads/been-wondering-when-this-would-happen-lawsuit-over-grading.204318/[/URL]

Also can't evaluate princess by numbers on a lab report. IF it was an AGS0 that is the only lab report that gives light performance information. GIA and certainly EGL lab reports are not sufficient.

The entire purpose of faceting a diamond is to reflect light.
How well or how poorly a diamond does this determines how beautiful it is.
How well a diamond performs is determined by the angles and cutting. This is why we say cut is king. With fancies though (anything other than a round brilliant), that is a little complicated. But no other factor: not color, not clarity has as much of an impact on the appearance of a diamond as its cut.

There really is no other way to determine if you have a good princess is to see images of the stones, and then you need is a way to check actual light performance of your actual stone.

That's what an ASET image does. http://www.highperformancediamonds.com/index.php?page=education-performance Please read.
And ASET shows you how and wear your diamond is reflecting light, how well it is going at it, and where you are losing light return That is why you won't see us recommending vendors like Blue Nile, as they do not provide images or ASET images for their diamonds. James Allen and Good Old Gold do this. So do Brian Gavin and Whiteflash and High Performance Diamonds.

Here is what I mean. Compare these two:

http://www.jamesallen.com/loose-diamonds/princess-cut/1.00-carat-g-color-vs2-clarity-sku-295886
G color
VS2
Depth 76.3
Table 69
Ratio: 1.01
Excellent polish
Good Symmetry
Girdle Medium

http://www.jamesallen.com/loose-diamonds/princess-cut/1.00-carat-g-color-vs2-clarity-sku-283672
G color
VS2 clarity
Depth 76.2
Table 69.9
Ratio: 1.02
Very good polish
Very good symmetry
Girdle Thin to Slightly thick

Numbers are VERY close right? And the first one has a better girdle. And while the symmetry on the first one is only good, that's not a disqualifier with princeses.
Now look at the pictures. The first one is a VERY dark stone, and frankly a dog as far as princesses go. Second one is an AGS0 with ideal light return and is very bright, with just enough patterning to provide contrast.

In summary. YOU NEED AN ASET AND IMAGES.
 

gemshopper12

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Gypsy

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They are both lovely. Different styles of princesses with different faceting. Are you the one reserved the second one? Because if you aren't... that stone may not be available. As long as the VS2 is eyeclean I think it's a generally better value, I don't believe in paying for clarity you can't see. But I actually prefer the faceting on the VS1 and as the price difference isn't horrendous (1000 about), I might actually spring for the VS1. But if it is out of budget we can look to see if we can find you another stone as nice.
 

gemshopper12

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Good guess! Yes, I do have it reserved. I'm still kind of going back and forth between the two, leaning more towards the VS2. I tried to find more info on whether the small table is an advantage or not. From what I read a small table is better on a larger stone giving it a nicer sparkle. Large tables are more for smaller stones to make them look bigger. Sound about right?

The only thing that threw me off was this chart on pricescope.

https://www.pricescope.com/wiki/diamonds/diamond-grading-chart-princess

So according to this chart, a 55% table would be an average cut? The stone is a AGS000, is this chart dated?

Thanks!!
 
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