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why not just go with a GIA or AGS stone within your budget?
http://www.jamesallen.com/diamonds/H-SI1-Ideal-Cut-Round-Diamond-1455178.asp http://www.jamesallen.com/diamonds/H-SI1-Premium-Cut-Round-Diamond-1411877.asp http://www.jamesallen.com/diamonds/H-SI1-Premium-Cut-Round-Diamond-1443516.asp |
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My girlfriend has a good eye for color, and I dont
how noticeable is a GIA G vs H I know an EGL-USA H is noticeable |
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Light pink is ok.
Why don't you just look for an eye-clean SI2/I1 to start with? Your budget is great for what you want, you could probably get away with it under 20K. I don't think you would lose value on the open market so long as it is a round. |
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If your considering EGL because you are think that you are going to get more diamond for your money, you won't. There could be a significant difference between a GIA H and an EGL H, and you mentioned that your gf is color sensitive so I douby that the H on a an EGL cert is going to convince her.
People ask your question all the time, or what I assume is your question....can you get a comparable EGL stone for less money than a GIA...and the quick answer is no. You will end up spending more money on the EGL. You had a jewler tell you that he pre grades the stones and sends them to the corresponding lab so that they don't get 'bumped' on paper...they ALL do this, and they do it because it makes them MORE money. I'm actually surprised by his honesty with you. You would get more value dropping down a color and or clarity grade and staying with an AGS GIA certed stone. I think at this point I would stay away from anything uncerted too, in the interest of time and having to have each stone evaluated by an independent appraiser to confirm stats and the relative cost of having to do so. |
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You might ask about this one. The inclusion is right in the center which is a concern but sometimes the brilliance of
the stone hides the inclusion. Worth asking... http://www.jamesallen.com/diamonds/G-SI2-Ideal-Cut-Round-Diamond-1422722.asp |
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It is absolutely a pipe dream to think you could find an F-G EGL stone that would grade to a G in GIA. F-G in EGL is going to be H at best and likely I-J-K in reality. You get what you pay for, so you may as well look at GIA graded stones. The idealscopes on the stones above are fine, though, they don't have to be perfect to look excellent. I do think maybe you need to have a little talk with your girlfriend about current diamond prices and the fact that diamonds are crazy expensive right now and there's no way to get a GIA G SI1 ideal cut stone for $20k. Try closer to $30k. Sad but true. You can do a lot better if you go under 2 cts. But she needs to know where she wants to sacrifice. You can save some money by getting a stone with fluorescence and that is a bonus as far as I am concerned.
Okay, this is a virtual stone and can likely be called in by any vendor. It is a 2.09 H VS2 with strong blue fluorescence. You need someone to call it in for you who can examine it in various lighting to be sure the stone has no haziness due to the fluor. That is rare, but there is a prejudice against fluor. for that reason. But the majority of blue flour. stones have no negative effects. I have one and love it. I used Good Old Gold to call in the stone for me, but I would only choose someone who can call it in and evaluate it for you and take idealscope images, etc. http://www.eternitydiamonds.com/diamond_detail.php?id=625510&ref=pricescope |
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I think I might have a good stone/ring put together already that is a stunner that might be a good option!
A pricescoper it selling it to fund a sapphire purchase and the setting is designed by Leon Mege www.artofplatinum.com It's an ideal cut GIA graded G eyeclean SI2 http://www.pricescope.com/forum/preloved-ps-jewels/selling-my-2-14-ct-rb-diamond-in-leon-mege-platinum-pave-t171265.html Her ebay listing http://www.ebay.com/itm/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=350528748671&category=164342&_trksid=p5197.c0.m619#ht_500wt_1413 You might be able to make an offer and there is a 3 day return on it (in case you find that the SI2 isn't to your liking) but most PSers are very picky and it IS possible to find an eye clean SI2-but they are rare and I think this is one of those cases. ETA: I see the ebay listing has ended-she may have contacted www.goodoldgold.com to consign the ring but you can contract her via the preloved PS listing and I'm sure she'll respond right away and also send her a message via ebay even though the listing is no longer bidding able Either way your budget is great and I know you'll find a great ring! |
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+1 Why not buy a GIA/AGS graded diamond online? It saves you time and money. Many people have given you excellent diamond suggestions here. Is there a reason you are not considering them? |
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I went through a very similar quest (our budget, however, was not nearly as big as yours) last year so I'll share my story:
I also live in Southern Calfornia so I went through the whole LA jewelry district thing (not to mention Jared's and the other chain stores The weekend after our trip I decided to do some research online. The only online vendor I knew at the time was Blue Nile but I didn't feel comfortable buying a diamond without seeing it in person or at least an image of it. I came across Brian Gavin through a random search and contacted them. Leslie emailed me back almost right away (this was a Sundy) and helped me look for something in my price range. I also had two quite lengthy chats with Brian to ease my anxiety of buying online. At the end I got a beautifully cut stone that came a few grands under my budget. From my experience it is very difficult to filter through all the stones to find one that's excellent cut when you shop at the B&M stores. I am not saying it is impossible but the time and stress I had to go through was almost not worth it. I would totally skip the whole B&M store for my upgrade in a few years and go straight to the online vendors. There's definitely gonna be stress involed still but the vendors seem so much more informed and buying from vendors such as BGD, Whiteflash or GOG, you almost don't have to be concerned with getting a badly cut stone. All you have to focus on is finding the one with the carat, color and clarity combo you want. I think the online vendors are priced very competitively. It appears you are trying to look for a bargain but with a time crunch like this, I don't think you have the time to look and wait for that. I personally think it's a good option to consider purchasing online. |
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I second that. After buying a James Allen diamond online for a pendant, and Blue Nile Signature studs, I would find it hard to go back to B&M diamond shopping. If you shop online, not only can you trawl huge inventories and set your search parameters, but you can see all the measurements and angles, use tools like the Holloway Cut Advisor, and basically have total control of the specs you want to view. Playing around with all that info online, in privacy, at home, was just wonderful. And if you buy from a reputable jeweler, like the ones we all talk about on PS, you can get a refund or exchange easily if you don't like it! From James Allen I got a .52 diamond for a pendant, H&A, 0.8 on the Holloway Cut advisor, D color, SI2 but the inclusions are white so can't be seen at all, even at high magnification. This diamond cost just $1,050 about a year ago. This was one of the best purchases I've ever made. I believe I would never have got such a buy at a B&M store. If I'd walked into my local B&m and asked them to source D stones I believe I would have paid quite a premium.
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