Depth and angle issue for these round stones

[beekeeper]

Hey there Bees,

Shopping for a stone is really hard work. The magnify view of the stones at JA are pretty intimidating especially if the scratches or dents will show up in real life.

I'm looking at three round stones from JA that look to be very similar yet I be concerned about the depth is too deep and not to mention about the angles. What are your thoughts and which one is a good buy? I'm also open to other stones.

Stone #1 is about $2750USD while stones #2 and #3 are about $3450.

Stone #1
.8 J VVS1 XXX
HCA 1.6
5.92 - 5.95 x 3.71 mm
Depth: 62.5
Table: 56
Crown angle 35
Crown height 15.5
Pavilion angle 40.8
Pavilion depth 43
Star length 50%
Lower half 80%
Medium to slightly thick (4.0%).
No fluorescence
No culet
Cloud, pinpoint

Stone #2
.81 I VVS1 XXX
HCA 1.3
5.92 - 5.96 x 3.70 mm
Depth: 62.3
Table: 56
Crown angle 35.5
Crown height 15.5
Pavilion angle 40.6
Pavilion depth 42.5
Star length 50%
Lower half 80%
slightly thick (4.0%).
Faint fluorescence
No culet
Cloud

Stone #3
.86 J VVS1 XXX
HCA 1.3
6.22 - 6.25 x 3.68 mm
Depth: 59.1
Table: 60
Crown angle 33.0
Crown height 13.0
Pavilion angle 41.0
Pavilion depth 43.5
Star length 50%
Lower half 80%
Thin - medium (3.0%).
Faint fluorescence
No culet
Pinpoint, feather

Thank you for any help.

 

[JulieN]

Did you put them on hold because I can't find them...

Post the pictures.

 

[beekeeper]

Yes they are on hold. The direct links are:

Stone #1
http://www.jamesallen.com/loose-diamonds/round-cut/0.80-carat-j-color-vvs1-clarity-excellent-cut-sku-376585

Stone #2
http://www.jamesallen.com/loose-diamonds/round-cut/0.81-carat-i-color-vvs1-clarity-excellent-cut-sku-349784

Stone #3
http://www.jamesallen.com/loose-diamonds/round-cut/0.86-carat-j-color-vvs1-clarity-excellent-cut-sku-375950

Thanks in advance.

 

[JulieN]

They all look decent. Depth is a little high but 5.9mm is just right for that carat weight, so that's fine.

 

[Dancing Fire]

Yes they are on hold. The direct links are:

Stone #2
http://www.jamesallen.com/loose-diamonds/round-cut/0.81-carat-i-color-vvs1-clarity-excellent-cut-sku-349784

Thanks in advance.

If I were to pick based on the specs then I do go with #2.

 

[beekeeper]

They all look decent. Depth is a little high but 5.9mm is just right for that carat weight, so that's fine.

Which one would you choose?

If I were to pick based on the specs then I do go with #2.

Me too! I was leaning towards #2 but just a bit concerned that it might be too deep. I'm also debating if I should go with #1 since it is $700 cheaper but it's a J so not sure if there is going to be a yellow tint. I'm looking for a nice and bright diamond on a platinum setting.

 

[beekeeper]

I have the idealscope for stones 2 and 3. Stone 1 is pending..

Stone 2



Stone 3


Let me know what you think.

 

[Gypsy]

Stone 2.

 

[beekeeper]

And here's stone #1.



The JA gemologist said he prefers #3 but I like #2 more. And to top it off, I still keep thinking about the depth and think it's too high. Maybe I should look for another set of diamonds from BGD or WF. There aren't any JA diamonds in their inventory that I like at the moment.

 

[Gypsy]

I like the idealscope of 1.

My question is this though. Why on earth are you wasting money of such extraordinarily high clarity? And then compromising so much on color. You can see color, but clarity as long as it is eyeclean is going to look the same in an SI as an IF.


You don't need VVS.

Vs2 is just fine if eyeclean.

And then see if you can get to I color.

 

[Gypsy]

1 and 2 have the same spread. So the depth of the stone is irrelevant given the Idealscope. Personally I'd buy 1 if I was picking between those.

But I wouldn't buy a VVS clarity round.

 

[beekeeper]

Hi. Thanks for your advice. I really appreciate it. I didn't factor the extraordinarily high clarity and the VVS. Those stones were recommended by JA.

I'll keep looking for other diamonds. Most likely at WF and BG. Hopefully I'll find something in the .7-.8 with a $3500 budget.