Gypsy
Super_Ideal_Rock
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Re: What constitutes an inspired by piece vs. stealing desig
Hmm. That's a good idea.
I think the issue is that posters need to understand that they have to have honest conversations with their S/O about budgets. We have to be firmer about pushing them on that. They have these Disney fairytale ideas that everything has to be a surprise, because that's what society tells them. And it's complete BS. They aren't mind readers. And they shouldn't have to be. And we need to be telling them that, firmly.
We have a guy whose lady's Pinterest is full of 3-10 carat stones. And any center stones that are around the carat mark are in settings that cost 5k by themselves. His budget is 6k. Now, I've told him multiple times to just TALK TO HER. To set a reasonable expectation about the ring. Because frankly she needs a reality check.
Does he listen? No. He's looking for some low colored pear with shallow depth (which poor performance) so that he can get her a big look and he's using DK for a setting that is a copy of one we posted for him from Joseph's jewelers (which I do not approve of) because Joseph's jewelers would price match the pear he wanted with a drop shipper. For a couple hundred in savings he is going with DK and DK is more than happy to copy the setting.
I mean, what can we do in cases like that?
I do agree that we should start (and I will start today) telling people that are looking for protected settings that are currently in production and available for sale that they need to buy the original or understand that if they decide to go custom they will need to change the setting and customize it enough that it isn't a rip off. Is that going to stop it completely? No. Someone will come on and say, "you can get a copy just like it from DK, don't worry about it." But we do need to try, Rainwood, I agree.
Another option is to find an 'inspired by" setting that is part of the regular stock of other designers. In your example with the Legacy, Vatche had a nice inspired by that we pointed people toward. And we can keep doing that kind of thing.
Hmm. That's a good idea.
I think the issue is that posters need to understand that they have to have honest conversations with their S/O about budgets. We have to be firmer about pushing them on that. They have these Disney fairytale ideas that everything has to be a surprise, because that's what society tells them. And it's complete BS. They aren't mind readers. And they shouldn't have to be. And we need to be telling them that, firmly.
We have a guy whose lady's Pinterest is full of 3-10 carat stones. And any center stones that are around the carat mark are in settings that cost 5k by themselves. His budget is 6k. Now, I've told him multiple times to just TALK TO HER. To set a reasonable expectation about the ring. Because frankly she needs a reality check.
Does he listen? No. He's looking for some low colored pear with shallow depth (which poor performance) so that he can get her a big look and he's using DK for a setting that is a copy of one we posted for him from Joseph's jewelers (which I do not approve of) because Joseph's jewelers would price match the pear he wanted with a drop shipper. For a couple hundred in savings he is going with DK and DK is more than happy to copy the setting.
I mean, what can we do in cases like that?
I do agree that we should start (and I will start today) telling people that are looking for protected settings that are currently in production and available for sale that they need to buy the original or understand that if they decide to go custom they will need to change the setting and customize it enough that it isn't a rip off. Is that going to stop it completely? No. Someone will come on and say, "you can get a copy just like it from DK, don't worry about it." But we do need to try, Rainwood, I agree.
Another option is to find an 'inspired by" setting that is part of the regular stock of other designers. In your example with the Legacy, Vatche had a nice inspired by that we pointed people toward. And we can keep doing that kind of thing.