Please Help. Who has a brown tinge ~H color diamond?

[vulcan4d]

To all the wonderful people here, can you comment on your brown tinge ~H color diamond?

I found a diamond with great qualities but it is H color. The seller informed me that they don't have it on hand and would have to be transferred in. All I have to go by in making my purchasing decision is a plain photo that only is good to show inclusions (VS2), the GIA cert and an excellent HCA score. The only problem is, the seller tells me he does not recommend the diamond because in the dealer's notes it says "has faint brown tinge". He may be saving me from terror, or it's his preference seeing better quality diamonds. I'm on a budget and I want to get this but in person how do these brown tinge diamonds look like? I'm thinking at near-colorless H, ex-cut, VS2, vg polish & symmetry, it can't be that bad right?

Thank you!!!!

 

[diamondseeker2006]

Okay, I can help you. I am going to show you two I color diamonds with different undertones, one yellow and one brown. I chose I color because it was easier for me to quickly find examples. Your jeweler is probably right to recommend you get an H that does not have brown. It is priced lower for a reason.

First, here is a diamond that is what I consider a normal I color with minimal tint (watch it turn all the way around and you'll see the color that way):

http://www.jamesallen.com/loose-diamonds/round-cut/1.07-carat-i-color-vs2-clarity-excellent-cut-sku-379982

Then one with more yellow (probably a low I color):

http://www.jamesallen.com/loose-diamonds/round-cut/1.00-carat-i-color-si1-clarity-excellent-cut-sku-423637

And here is one with brown (or yellow-brown):

http://www.jamesallen.com/loose-diamonds/round-cut/1.02-carat-i-color-vs2-clarity-excellent-cut-sku-387170

 

[AlexPark]

Never buy anything that is brown,milky or green.

 

[vulcan4d]

diamondseeker2006, that is an amazing clarification. Clearly the white looks the best but to me the brown looks better than the yellow in the face up position. It could be my eyes, monitor or preference but it gives it a shaded look. Hopefully that doesn't take away from it's brilliance! I'll have to stare at these rotating photos some more . I learned that these are called TTLB (Top Top Total Light Brown) in the G-I color but I'm amazed how little information there is about them. Thank you for letting me see it in such clarity.

 

[Circe]

When GIA teaches graders to judge color, they tell them to take extra care looking for a brown tint, because brown tinted diamonds are deceptive: they face up lighter then one would assume from the side view. And since diamonds are *graded* from the side ... for buyers it's actually kind of a bonus (i.e. you buy a diamond graded I that will face up as, say, an H). I view it in very much the same way I view fluorescence, actually: it's unpopular, and it knocks the price down, and it ... typically either improves color or doesn't impact it? Win all around.

ETA - there are always exceptions (milky fluorescence, for example) so be sure to double check with your own eyes in multiple lighting conditions. But given the law of averages, definitely worth checking out for yourself.

 

[liaerfbv]

Never buy anything that is brown,milky or green.

...unless you like brown, milky, or green. Blanket statements like this are ridiculous.

 

[AlexPark]

Never buy anything that is brown,milky or green.

...unless you like brown, milky, or green. Blanket statements like this are ridiculous.

yes you are right..blanket statement... to each their own, i guess. But have you ever bought and sold these type of stones? I was trying to protect their investment and their anus from becoming 3 inch wider when they try to sell or upgrade..

 

[Travelgal]

It's a long video, but I found this super helpful for understanding underlying color.

http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=YizGfSIisJE

 

[telephone89]

I actually prefer a brown tint to a yellow tint. To each their own. (And my anus is just fine, thank you)

 

[JoshuaNiamehr]

If your diamond has a tinge you want it to be gray, blue or beige/off white.

Sub-par diamonds are greenish, yellowish or browinsh in my opinion.

A reputable jeweler will tell you what tinge the diamond is, in their opinion. G and on, every diamond has a tinge or hue.

 

[telephone89]

If your diamond has a tinge you want it to be gray, blue or beige/off white.

Sub-par diamonds are greenish, yellowish or browinsh in my opinion.

A reputable jeweler will tell you what tinge the diamond is, in their opinion. G and on, every diamond has a tinge or hue.

Beige is a term used for a range of pale brownish or yellowish colors.

Umm

 

[phoenixgirl]

This is an interesting discussion of diamonds like you describe. Hope it helps!

https://www.pricescope.com/communit...-k-diamonds-are-brown-and-do-you-care.184489/

 

[ariel144]

If your diamond has a tinge you want it to be gray, blue or beige/off white.

Sub-par diamonds are greenish, yellowish or browinsh in my opinion.

A reputable jeweler will tell you what tinge the diamond is, in their opinion. G and on, every diamond has a tinge or hue.

You left out pink and orange tint:

Here's an H with a pinkish brown tint which i love. I'm posting cushions cause IMO you can see the tint better:

http://www.jamesallen.com/loose-diamonds/cushion-cut/0.80-carat-h-color-si1-clarity-sku-50441

Another...brown which also has the pink hue as well:

http://www.jamesallen.com/loose-diamonds/round-cut/0.90-carat-h-color-si1-clarity-very-good-cut-sku-180573


I don't care for yellow tint...I'd rather have a brownish tint...saw a princess K with brownish tint that was lovely.

One has to view the diamond in person and see what they like...my radiant had a yellow tint which I did not care for.

Yellow:
http://www.jamesallen.com/loose-diamonds/cushion-cut/2.01-carat-h-color-vs2-clarity-sku-381900
http://www.jamesallen.com/loose-diamonds/cushion-cut/2.03-carat-h-color-vs2-clarity-sku-48639

Pink...rare and lovely:
http://www.jamesallen.com/loose-diamonds/cushion-cut/3.01-carat-h-color-vs2-clarity-sku-371146

 

[Lookinagain]

As with everything else, it's always about personal preference. I would pick a faint brown tint over a faint yellow tint. And perhaps set it in rose gold. I would also consider whether the diamond was offered at a really good price because of the tint. There are a lot of things to consider, but it really depends on the preferences, and sensitivity, of the wearer. Buying a diamond for someone else, without their input, I'd stay away from any obvious tint of any color even if it meant sacrificing on size. Otherwise, I'd get their opinion.