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Good morning, I've learned quite about RBs over the past few weeks from PS, thank you to you all!

My gf hinted she wants a cushion in a halo setting and i have attached an image. I understand cushion cuts aren't aren't symmetrical like Rbs so i am trying to understand more about cuts, AVC, HA, etc.

I have a budget of 10k, can you guys please point me in the right direction. 1+ ct center with best possible cut H/I vs2/si preferably with platinum setting is what i am interested in. Thank you! :wavey:

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I can't tell you much, but wanted to get you on the right track and show you a couple of stones that should be gorgeous!!

Did she want a square cushion or does she care if it is rectangular? When I think halo, I think square. But this is a very very important aspect to know for certain.

http://www.briangavindiamonds.com/diamonds/diamond-details/1.052-h-vs2-cushion-diamond-ags-104071432003

http://www.goodoldgold.com/diamond/12586/ ( i wonder if this diamond is old stock... They may can budge on the price and make it fit your budget!)


http://www.goodoldgold.com/diamond/12192/


http://www.goodoldgold.com/diamond/12190/
 

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I came back to throw you a bone with an AVC. This patterning is going to throw large flashes of light at you. Notice that these diamonds are harder to find in the colorless/near colorless range. Further, this is not a square cushion. I'd advise that you make sure you know what the recipient wants regarding the faceting of these diamonds and the shape (square vs. rectangular).

http://www.goodoldgold.com/diamond/11109/
 

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Thank you both for the informative posts! I will research some more and look into what she likes; square or rectangular.


Can anyone comment on the light performance between an HA from BGD and GOGs AVC?

Thanks in advance!
 

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Gypsy|1415583728|3780359 said:

Gypsy i appreciate your insight and feedback. I didn't know how complicated cushions were :shock:

Can you give me your insight on an HA from BGD to the diamond you posted? Light return, quality of the cut, etc? Thank you so much :wavey:
 

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It's a nice stone as far as Hearts and Arrows cushions go but I am not a fan of hearts and arrows cushions personally at all.
 

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Gypsy|1415588883|3780394 said:
It's a nice stone as far as Hearts and Arrows cushions go but I am not a fan of hearts and arrows cushions personally at all.

Gypsy, can you recommend a cushion cut with the best light return? AVC, brilliant cushion, etc? Thanks!
 

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littleweight|1415594282|3780427 said:
Gypsy|1415588883|3780394 said:
It's a nice stone as far as Hearts and Arrows cushions go but I am not a fan of hearts and arrows cushions personally at all.

Gypsy, can you recommend a cushion cut with the best light return? AVC, brilliant cushion, etc? Thanks!


If light return is your goal any of the AGS 0 cushions (AVC, Mark T, Briella, Brian Gavin H&A) are the ones with the best light return.

That said, of those the only one I like the faceting of, personally is the Mark T, and they don't have one in budget for you on their site.

You have to pick the faceting you and your lady like best.


The stone I posted for you from Brilliantly Engaged has excellent light return (that ASET is fantastic)-- I can't call it ideal because it isn't an AGS0-- and is a great balance of color and size, and budget. Has the antique faceting you like in the AVC, and ERD makes the nicest CAD halos of that style of any of the vendors we recommend.
 

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Gypsy|1415595605|3780435 said:
littleweight|1415594282|3780427 said:
Gypsy|1415588883|3780394 said:
It's a nice stone as far as Hearts and Arrows cushions go but I am not a fan of hearts and arrows cushions personally at all.

Gypsy, can you recommend a cushion cut with the best light return? AVC, brilliant cushion, etc? Thanks!


If light return is your goal any of the AGS 0 cushions (AVC, Mark T, Briella, Brian Gavin H&A) are the ones with the best light return.

That said, of those the only one I like the faceting of, personally is the Mark T, and they don't have one in budget for you on their site.

You have to pick the faceting you and your lady like best.


The stone I posted for you from Brilliantly Engaged has excellent light return (that ASET is fantastic)-- I can't call it ideal because it isn't an AGS0-- and is a great balance of color and size, and budget. Has the antique faceting you like in the AVC, and ERD makes the nicest CAD halos of that style of any of the vendors we recommend.

Gypsy your posts are extremely informative, thank you! I will look more into the one you linked and see what she likes too! Thank you again!
 

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It's not a good quality setting. It's going to be larger in proportion to the center stone than your inspiration picture.
 

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Gypsy|1416377323|3786251 said:
It's not a good quality setting. It's going to be larger in proportion to the center stone than your inspiration picture.

As always, thank you! Do you recommend something else in that range?
 

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Gypsy|1416378457|3786262 said:

Gypsy, your feedback is greatly appreciated. Do you recommend the BGD Anita? Thats a few hundred more than the Ritani setting.
 

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littleweight|1416445684|3786828 said:
Gypsy|1416378457|3786262 said:

Gypsy, your feedback is greatly appreciated. Do you recommend the BGD Anita? That;s a few hundred more than the Ritani setting.

I like the Anita one very much. I think it's a lovely setting and BGD has great quality (I have owned 4 pieces by them). Make sure to send them your inspiration image and tell them that the reason you like the Anita is because it is a proportionately delicate halo and that's what you want. ;))
 

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Gypsy|1416463544|3787062 said:
littleweight|1416445684|3786828 said:
Gypsy|1416378457|3786262 said:

Gypsy, your feedback is greatly appreciated. Do you recommend the BGD Anita? That;s a few hundred more than the Ritani setting.

I like the Anita one very much. I think it's a lovely setting and BGD has great quality (I have owned 4 pieces by them). Make sure to send them your inspiration image and tell them that the reason you like the Anita is because it is a proportionately delicate halo and that's what you want. ;))

Gypsy, again and again thank you! I got in touch with BE and they have good price points with a custom build. The thing is they will have to set the diamond if i get one from BGD. For the same price point would you recommend going with BE and getting things tinkered with so i get more of a custom setting and having them set the diamond? Thanks again!
 

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Yes, I'd go with the custom setting. That said, I would also go for a stone from BE, for 7k they can find you one heck of a nice cushion, and they have a track record for finding fantastic cushions.
 

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Tell BE you want "3/4 pointers" not one pointers for the halo, okay?
 

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Gypsy|1416611979|3788229 said:
Tell BE you want "3/4 pointers" not one pointers for the halo, okay?

Thanks again Gypsy, i will definitely do my research and pass this along to them!!

PS.. can you help me with what a pointer is? Thank you. :wavey:
 

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A one carat stone has 100 points.

A 1 point stone is a very small stone used in pave (for example). Small stones like that are referred to as melee.

You can chose melee by weight (1 point, 1/2 point, 3/4 point. Or .01, .005, .0075) or by measurements.
MM size Weight
0.8 0.0025
1 0.005
1.12 0.0075
1.15 0.0067
1.25 0.01
1.3 0.01
1.5 0.015

Since you want a delicate halo and are planning a 1 carat center, 1 pointers would be too large. So you need something less I recommend .0075 stones AKA 3/4 pointers, AKA 1.12mm stones.

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Gypsy|1416643399|3788395 said:
A one carat stone has 100 points.

A 1 point stone is a very small stone used in pave (for example). Small stones like that are referred to as melee.

You can chose melee by weight (1 point, 1/2 point, 3/4 point. Or .01, .005, .0075) or by measurements.
MM size Weight
0.8 0.0025
1 0.005
1.12 0.0075
1.15 0.0067
1.25 0.01
1.3 0.01
1.5 0.015

Since you want a delicate halo and are planning a 1 carat center, 1 pointers would be too large. So you need something less I recommend .0075 stones AKA 3/4 pointers, AKA 1.12mm stones.

:wavey:

Gypsy, as always you've been incredibly detailed with your posts and help! I can't thank you enough. I have been in talks with BE and so far they have been great to talk to. Can you please give me your opinion on these two stones after comparing them? Thanks again!

http://www.briangavindiamonds.com/diamonds/diamond-details/1.052-h-vs2-cushion-diamond-ags-104071432003

http://www.goodoldgold.com/diamond/12518/
 

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Both are fantastic. There's really no bad there on either of them. They are both H VS2. The Breilla is just a smidge bigger (the first dimension on the BGD stone is the diagnal, for some reason that's how AGS is measuring those). And a little more affordable. You could probably ask BGD if they will price match the briella is you wanted.

If you want a hearts and arrows cushion though, I would go for one of these personally:
http://www.bluenile.com/diamond-details/LD04109793
http://www.bluenile.com/diamond-details/LD04403039

Why? Higher color. Also a smidge bigger than the other two (measurements not weight). Guaranteed eyeclean. And they don't have that very square outline, they have a more pillowy 'cushiony' outline. And it it saves you money you can and should put toward your custom setting and do a platinum setting. Why? Because platinum is the best metal for pave.

These have been ASETing out to go head to head with the other Hearts and Arrows Diamonds. And while we don't normally recommend Blue Nile these have the G-Cal report and people that have bought them have come back and they are quite gorgeous.

If I wanted a hearts and arrows cushion, these are the ones I'd buy.
 

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I feel like I"d be remiss if I didn't tell you the below.

WIth cushions, size does matter. Not as much as with say asschers, but still a one carat cushion faces up at about 5.7. So I totally understanding wanting to get the best cut possible. And the hearts and arrows are certainly that.

But if the wearer is the one who chose that image above as the look she wants: that shows a large generic cushion as the center. Therefore larger stone, one without the H&A faceting might be a better fit.
Something like this: http://www.b2cjewels.com/dd-6248872-1.40-carat-Cushion-diamond-H-color-SI1-clarity.aspx Which has very strong performance and lovely faceting, might be a better fit. Why? It faces up at 6.86x6.17x4.29 with very little compromise on performance.

Not to mention, again it opens up your budget a bit for a platinum setting.
 

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Gypsy|1416878214|3789946 said:
I feel like I"d be remiss if I didn't tell you the below.

WIth cushions, size does matter. Not as much as with say asschers, but still a one carat cushion faces up at about 5.7. So I totally understanding wanting to get the best cut possible. And the hearts and arrows are certainly that.

But if the wearer is the one who chose that image above as the look she wants: that shows a large generic cushion as the center. Therefore larger stone, one without the H&A faceting might be a better fit.
Something like this: http://www.b2cjewels.com/dd-6248872-1.40-carat-Cushion-diamond-H-color-SI1-clarity.aspx Which has very strong performance and lovely faceting, might be a better fit. Why? It faces up at 6.86x6.17x4.29 with very little compromise on performance.

Not to mention, again it opens up your budget a bit for a platinum setting.

Gypsy, thank you for this info. I will take a look at these diamonds and try to decide soon. Your help is greatly appreciated. When talking to BE they stated the platinum 950 setting has ruthenium in it. Is that normal with all their platinum settings that you're aware of? Thanks!
 
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