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They aren't particularly popular, even in the CS side of the forum, due to its low durability as a ring stone. Great for pendants and earrings, not so for rings, less so for everyday wear rings.
 

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cflutist|1409754081|3743994 said:
As much as I like Fancy Yellow diamonds, I'm going to go against the grain here
and suggest that it be mounted sans halo.
You have such a fine and beautiful specimen of black opal there that your girl can enjoy it
in all of its glory without all of the diamonds around.

I completely agree, which is why I questioned the choice of yellow diamonds right from the start. I adore yellow diamonds (I have a three-stone, right-hand ring with a yellow diamond as the center stone) and I wear a pave yellow diamond eternity band with my E-ring. I love unique pieces, but I just don't see the yellow diamonds being very complimentary to the opal - I actually see the opposite with too much color going on. I would skip the halo all together, but that's just a personal preference.
 

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SB621|1410439066|3748947 said:
I love this ring personally but for a RHR and not an ering. You do know opals are soft right and not meant to be worn daily? I'm surprised no one has mentioned this first- that is why you never see them for erings. Because your lovely lady will probably chip it and ruin it where as other stones (diamonds, sapphires, spinels) hold up better. I would really caution you against this for an ering.

Is this for an e-ring? I missed that in the original post.

I have a small opal ring and I'm pretty careful with it due to the potential for chipping. I maybe wear it a couple times a month. You may want to reconsider using an opal for an e-ring if she's going to be wearing it everyday. Over the years an opal of that size will be exposed to some abuse, no matter how careful she is with it.
 

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the_universe|1410444822|3748987 said:
SB621|1410439066|3748947 said:
I love this ring personally but for a RHR and not an ering. You do know opals are soft right and not meant to be worn daily? I'm surprised no one has mentioned this first- that is why you never see them for erings. Because your lovely lady will probably chip it and ruin it where as other stones (diamonds, sapphires, spinels) hold up better. I would really caution you against this for an ering.

a lot of people wear opals every day. in the usa a major reason why u dont see them is marketing imo.
Yeah, I wouldn't risk an opal for an every day ring either. My mother had one and did not wear it every day and it is clearly abraded. And I see opals all of the time, so I don't know what you're talking about about in regards to marketing in the USA. Does she want an opal engagement ring?

I'm also not a huge fan of the yellow diamonds. I think they are extremely limiting as far as "going" with clothing. I'd go with white diamonds unless she loves yellow.
 

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That is a gorgeous stone! I haven't read this entire thread completely so I'm sorry if this has been asked and answered, but have you considered bezeling it?

And I think the idea of yellow diamonds is really cool and will bring out the color of the opal.
 

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I have considered bezeling it. However the miner whom I bought it from told me that prongs protect the opal more because they act like bumpers whereas bezel still leaves the entire face of the opal exposed. This was the exact opposite of what many jewelers have told me. However many of these jewelers dont have much experience (if any) with opals.
 

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The entire face of the opal is going to be exposed to potential damage unless the prongs are massive. Considering you have been talking about single vs double prongs in another thread, and talk about how double prongs cover up too much of the stone, I think there are some twisted expectations here.

Just curious, but does SHE like yellow metals? And she wants a halo, but does she want a yellow halo? Because this ring is so out there, I would check with her for every element.

opal_cathy_waterman.jpg
 

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yes she prefers yellow gold as do I. it looks great on her tan skin too. IMO it's a warmer and more attractive metal.

that opal ring you posted isnt appealing to me though. please don't take it the wrong way. but I find it too clunky looking and not high end looking enough for what I'm going for.
 

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Just wanted to quickly post a few pics I found of bezel/halo'd opals. They're all amazing for different reasons. If you do halo your opal, I hope you keep the halo stones petite. Omi Prive

Shreve Crump and Low

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Sorry I messed up the sources, I'm new to using tapatalk. Bottom pic is Omi Prive. Middle pic is Shreve Crump and Low. Top pic is jegem.
 

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the_universe|1410477953|3749341 said:
yes she prefers yellow gold as do I. it looks great on her tan skin too. IMO it's a warmer and more attractive metal.

that opal ring you posted isnt appealing to me though. please don't take it the wrong way. but I find it too clunky looking and not high end looking enough for what I'm going for.
Lol. Ok. That's a Cathy Waterman. You know, jeweler to the stars. So, while it may not be a look you like, it is certainly high end.

http://www.cathywaterman.com/

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cathy_Waterman

My point was actually that you need massive prongs to be bumpers. THOSE prongs on the Waterman ring will help protect the stone by acting as bumpers. The prongs YOU are talking about wanting will NOT.
 

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the_universe|1410444973|3748990 said:
no. its just a good quality opal.


Ummmm quality has nothing to do with durability. I doubt you will listen though. Make sure you get really good insurance on this ring. and have your lady read up on opals so she understands she has to baby this ring.
 

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Put me in as another voice of caution against an opal for an engagement ring. I LOVE opals. But they're about a 6 on the Mohs scale ... really soft. High quality actually works against you there: low quality stones tend to be reinforced as other materials for doublets or triplets, and they're still considered to be fairly fragile. I'd suggest if you really want this to be your engagement present, set it as a pendant, and use a gold band for the engagement as in Europe. Or, resign yourself to the fact that this probably cannot be an everyday ring: 90% of the stuff we do with our hands on a regular basis is a big risk for an opal. No dishes. No cooking. No gym. No occasional moment of clumsiness where you smack your hand into a filing cabinet. Etc., etc. - basically something your wear to parties. (I mean, you can wear it to do those things, but if you do, as the poster above me says ... insure heavily).

A bezel is safer than prongs. Hands down, bar none. It provides more protection around the circumference, and the same logic that would let you say tall/high prongs would somehow protect the stone can be applied to a bulkier bezel ( and somewhat more successfully, at that). For a good rule of thumb, trust the specialists. I wouldn't take a miner's advice about settings, I wouldn't take a jeweler's advice about mining, I wouldn't take a mime's advice about baking ... you get the idea.

I think it's lovely you're so passionate about this. Just keep the practicalities in mind! Considering how much you like this project, it'll hurt all the more if the stone gets shattered in a completely run-of-the-mill fashion: you'll be upset, she'll be upset, you might replace the ring but the sentiment will be affected ... you get the idea. My philosophy is, why borrow trouble?

Annnnnd to get us back on topic ... definite vote for the smaller, more delicate stones in the pave-type halo, regardless of whether it winds up being a ring or a pendant or whatever. A great complement to the fire!
 

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Care of Opals
http://www.opalsdownunder.com.au/learn-about-opals/introductory/how-care-opals
http://www.gemsociety.org/article/opal-jewelry-and-gemstone-information

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Solid Opals - Opal is a soft stone, approximately the same hardness as glass (around 6.5 on Moh's hardness scale), so it is important to treat your opal carefully in order to avoid damaging it. Remove your opal jewellery if there is a chance it will be scratched or broken (i.e. working in the garden, moving furniture, etc.)

Many people believe solid opals can be damaged by water - however, this only applies to doublets and triplets. Solid opals are fine in water. In fact, most precious opals contain about 5-6% water. As a result, opal may crack if subjected to very dry conditions or rapid changes in temperature. Try to avoid very high temperatures or low humidity extremes, such as boiling water or zero humidity bank vaults.

Solid opal should be cleaned gently with mild detergent in warm water and a soft toothbrush or cloth. Avoid bleach, chemicals and cleaners. Never allow anyone to clean your opal in an ultrasonic cleaner, as the intense vibrations may cause cracking in a solid opal.

If your stone loses its shine or becomes scratched, bring it back to an opal cutter. After years of wear, small scratches and scuff marks cause an opal to lose its shiny polish and become dull looking. Professional polishing can bring new life to an opal which has become dull or scratched.
 

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Circe|1410526744|3749661 said:
Put me in as another voice of caution against an opal for an engagement ring. I LOVE opals. But they're about a 6 on the Mohs scale ... really soft. High quality actually works against you there: low quality stones tend to be reinforced as other materials for doublets or triplets, and they're still considered to be fairly fragile. I'd suggest if you really want this to be your engagement present, set it as a pendant, and use a gold band for the engagement as in Europe. Or, resign yourself to the fact that this probably cannot be an everyday ring: 90% of the stuff we do with our hands on a regular basis is a big risk for an opal. No dishes. No cooking. No gym. No occasional moment of clumsiness where you smack your hand into a filing cabinet. Etc., etc. - basically something your wear to parties. (I mean, you can wear it to do those things, but if you do, as the poster above me says ... insure heavily).

A bezel is safer than prongs. Hands down, bar none. It provides more protection around the circumference, and the same logic that would let you say tall/high prongs would somehow protect the stone can be applied to a bulkier bezel ( and somewhat more successfully, at that). For a good rule of thumb, trust the specialists. I wouldn't take a miner's advice about settings, I wouldn't take a jeweler's advice about mining, I wouldn't take a mime's advice about baking ... you get the idea.

I think it's lovely you're so passionate about this. Just keep the practicalities in mind! Considering how much you like this project, it'll hurt all the more if the stone gets shattered in a completely run-of-the-mill fashion: you'll be upset, she'll be upset, you might replace the ring but the sentiment will be affected ... you get the idea. My philosophy is, why borrow trouble?

Annnnnd to get us back on topic ... definite vote for the smaller, more delicate stones in the pave-type halo, regardless of whether it winds up being a ring or a pendant or whatever. A great complement to the fire!



Please listen the to advice you are being given regarding opals not being a good choice for an engagement ring. I had a beautiful opal about 25 years ago. I only wore it for special occasions, maybe once a month, and was extremely careful when I did wear it. Something special was happening at work so I decided to wear it to work that day. I lightly bumped a file cabinet and the opal shattered. I repeat, lightly bumped! Also if you decide to still go ahead with using the opal for her engagement, please let her see an opal with yellow diamonds before you go ahead. I agree with the others who feel the white diamonds compliment opals much more. I am afraid it may be one of those you either love it or hate it scenarios. Please make sure she has seen one in person before going forward. She may very well love it but it could also just as easily go the other way.
 

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Chrono|1410528174|3749677 said:
Never allow anyone to clean your opal in an ultrasonic cleaner, as the intense vibrations may cause cracking in a solid opal.


I appreciate your opinion but I think you are a bit misinformed here as well. For proof please see the linked video 2:15 onward where the seller puts an opal in a ultrasonic cleaner with zero issue (and even recommends it):
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lve2CfYFxHM

Opal is not a mainstream stone and there seems to be a ton of misinformation on them online from seemingly "official sources." However, I think its better to seek information as close to the source as possible. So with regards with "ultrasonic cleaning [cracking... a solid opal]" I think it doesnt get much better than an actual video of an australian opal dealer demonstrating otherwise.

Also, opal durability is one of the criteria of high quality opal. So when people on this forum state that opal quality has nothing to do with durability they are misinformed as well. Durability has a lot to do with where the opal is mined. Australian opal is a lot more durable than Ethiopian Opal for example.
 

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Honestly, I would never attempt to clean an opal in an ultrasonic, you can try and it may be ok but more likely than not sooner or later it will not be ok. It is best to be on the safe side about this. Please listen to the very knowledgeable members of this forum that opals are indeed one of the most fragile gemstones, gorgeous indeed, love them too but definitely not fit for an engagement ring.

Listen, it is the same thing that my jeweler and watchmaker always told me to only wear my Art Deco watch for special occassions, I resisted as I love this watch so much and I broke it just about once a month, something always happened to it. You do not want this to happen to an engagement ring. It is extremely annoying and heartbreaking, not to mention costly. For a right hand special occassion ring it would be wonderful though or a pendant that is generally exposed to much less damage. Jewelry on our hands and wrists is exposed the most. Necklaces are exposed the least (there you mostly want to be careful with cosmetics). Do as you wish of course but we are here to help and advice.

And a last piece of advice, do not believe everything you see on the web.
 

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BTW, I think that Chrono has given great advice and provided very comprehensive, correct information.
 

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I sincerely hope it works out! Opal's are quite beautiful... I like small, little diamonds in yellow gold. PLEASE post a pix when you are done! Opals have good vibes.
 

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the_universe|1410903176|3752111 said:
Chrono|1410528174|3749677 said:
Never allow anyone to clean your opal in an ultrasonic cleaner, as the intense vibrations may cause cracking in a solid opal.

I appreciate your opinion but I think you are a bit misinformed here as well. For proof please see the linked video 2:15 onward where the seller puts an opal in a ultrasonic cleaner with zero issue (and even recommends it):
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lve2CfYFxHM

Opal is not a mainstream stone and there seems to be a ton of misinformation on them online from seemingly "official sources." However, I think its better to seek information as close to the source as possible. So with regards with "ultrasonic cleaning [cracking... a solid opal]" I think it doesnt get much better than an actual video of an australian opal dealer demonstrating otherwise.

Also, opal durability is one of the criteria of high quality opal. So when people on this forum state that opal quality has nothing to do with durability they are misinformed as well. Durability has a lot to do with where the opal is mined. Australian opal is a lot more durable than Ethiopian Opal for example.
Quality has nothing to do with hardness. Opals are soft.

Opal wouldn't look the way it looks without inclusions. Inclusions = liabilities.

Not that anything we're going to say is going to convince you otherwise, so good luck! You will need it.
 

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True, it is about their softness and they are one of the hardest to maintain. It is going to look beautiful, no doubt, some of the pix posted are absolutely striking. We do not mean badly, we are all trying to be helpful. I am sure OP that you have heard a lot of information, some of which may be true and some of which is definitely not true. I am a gemologist, appraiser and designer but listen I am the first person to admit that I will learn until the day I die and if someone gives me information that contradicts my opinion, I am the first to admit to stand corrected. Modesty is a virtue. The most dangerous thing is when you know some and think you know everything. We are here to help and this will sometimes mean that we contradict you but still wish you the best outcome. When my jeweler who has been in this field for over 50 years contradicts me and gives me advice that is practical about a design, a stone or whatever I sometimes argued only to realize in a few minutes that he was right. We love your opal but you could consider it to be given as an anniversary gift, birthday gift, or the like and choose a durable center for an e-ring. Either way we support you and hope you will keep us posted. I have to say this is a great thread you started with a unique idea.
 

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FrekeChild|1410908215|3752163 said:
Quality has nothing to do with hardness. Opals are soft.

Opal wouldn't look the way it looks without inclusions. Inclusions = liabilities.

Not that anything we're going to say is going to convince you otherwise, so good luck! You will need it.

there is a lot more to consider besides "softness" with regards to durability/quality of opal. For example, being able to withstand dry heat and also being able to be submerged in water (hot cold salty etc) without being damaged; or being durable enough to put in an ultrasonic machine. In things such as this I think you will find that mined from difference parts of the world have a wide range of durability.
 

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the_universe|1410915771|3752232 said:
FrekeChild|1410908215|3752163 said:
Quality has nothing to do with hardness. Opals are soft.

Opal wouldn't look the way it looks without inclusions. Inclusions = liabilities.

Not that anything we're going to say is going to convince you otherwise, so good luck! You will need it.

there is a lot more to consider besides "softness" with regards to durability/quality of opal. For example, being able to withstand dry heat and also being able to be submerged in water (hot cold salty etc) without being damaged; or being durable enough to put in an ultrasonic machine. In things such as this I think you will find that mined from difference parts of the world have a wide range of durability.


I thought every opal was unique to itself? So, just because the one opal is fine in an ultrasonic cleaner, doesn't mean the one you have will be?
It kinda feels like you've decided this is what you want to do and you're going to go ahead with it and disregard everything that doesn't agree with you as 'misinformation'.

At the end of the day, is your OH aware of how careful she's going to have to be with this ring?
Is she aware that she's going to have to take it off to sleep/shower/washing up/etc?
Is she happy with this?
If the answers are yes (and she has actually said yes to this, you haven't just assumed yes) then go ahead and make her the beautiful ring (it will look incredible, no doubt), get it insured and enjoy being engaged! :D

Quick question- does the insurance work the same way as a normal ring? So if it breaks- it's covered. There aren't any exclusions to the coverage? That's probably a silly question but it did make me wonder.
 

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the_universe|1410903176|3752111 said:
Chrono|1410528174|3749677 said:
Never allow anyone to clean your opal in an ultrasonic cleaner, as the intense vibrations may cause cracking in a solid opal.


I appreciate your opinion but I think you are a bit misinformed here as well. For proof please see the linked video 2:15 onward where the seller puts an opal in a ultrasonic cleaner with zero issue (and even recommends it):
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lve2CfYFxHM

Opal is not a mainstream stone and there seems to be a ton of misinformation on them online from seemingly "official sources." However, I think its better to seek information as close to the source as possible. So with regards with "ultrasonic cleaning [cracking... a solid opal]" I think it doesnt get much better than an actual video of an australian opal dealer demonstrating otherwise.

Also, opal durability is one of the criteria of high quality opal. So when people on this forum state that opal quality has nothing to do with durability they are misinformed as well. Durability has a lot to do with where the opal is mined. Australian opal is a lot more durable than Ethiopian Opal for example.


Please put your opal in the ultra sonic and let me know what happens!!!!!!!!
 

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Stephny691|1410952394|3752408 said:
It kinda feels like you've decided this is what you want to do and you're going to go ahead with it and disregard everything that doesn't agree with you as 'misinformation'.

I thought the title of this thread was pretty self explanatory. I wanted advice on stone size for the halo design thats it. Ill kindly save australian opal durability talk for opal experts (ie: someone who has spent their lives in opals).

There is so much misinformation about opal durability (sans the softness)

1) low quality opals cant get wet. high quality can get wet no problem (in fact before buying an opal make the seller submerge it in water in front of your eyes and put it in an ultrasonic cleaner). If the seller stands by his word and is truly selling you high quality opal and actually wants to make the sale then surely such a quick easy task to ask is not a problem. (as demonstrated in the video I linked)

2) low quality opals cant be put under salt water or various oils and house hold solutions. High quality opal is actually extremely stable and various solutions have zero effect on opal.

3) low quality opal cant be out in the sun. High quality opal can be out int he sun no problem. Lightning ridge is one of the driest and hottest places on earth. These opals were formed there over thousands of years and its super dry and super hot most of the time there. High temp and extra dry climate is no problem for them. Other opals cant take the heat and dry weather though. Its a huge difference.

4) the majority of opal in the USA is pretty low end. Even pieces made by self appointed "high quality" jewelers. Anyone who knows how to grade opal can tell by looking at the pictures of the stones. Furthermore, I see lots of opal sellers say its "australian opal" when its clearly not (even if they are photoshopped like crazy its still relatively easy to see). The countries that buy the most high end opal is India and China. Of course USA is going to talk down opal because they want to sell diamonds and have billions of dollars in marketing of diamonds.

5) at the end of the day the jewelry industry as a whole is pretty sleazy and scammy with regards to upsell at the retail level when it comes to diamonds especially (especially engagement rings). The mark up is so extreme its borderline criminal because these stones arent rare at all and thats a huge part of the sales pitch.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N5kWu1ifBGU

and if anyone is interested in very cursory overview of the diamond industry watch this (there are much more in depth documentaries available online for free but I assume that people dont have much time)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K-sFSmho4dU
 

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the_universe|1411089464|3753454 said:
Stephny691|1410952394|3752408 said:
It kinda feels like you've decided this is what you want to do and you're going to go ahead with it and disregard everything that doesn't agree with you as 'misinformation'.

I thought the title of this thread was pretty self explanatory. I wanted advice on stone size for the halo design thats it. Ill kindly save australian opal durability talk for opal experts (ie: someone who has spent their lives in opals).

There is so much misinformation about opal durability (sans the softness)

1) low quality opals cant get wet. high quality can get wet no problem (in fact before buying an opal make the seller submerge it in water in front of your eyes and put it in an ultrasonic cleaner). If the seller stands by his word and is truly selling you high quality opal and actually wants to make the sale then surely such a quick easy task to ask is not a problem. (as demonstrated in the video I linked)

2) low quality opals cant be put under salt water or various oils and house hold solutions. High quality opal is actually extremely stable and various solutions have zero effect on opal.

3) low quality opal cant be out in the sun. High quality opal can be out int he sun no problem. Lightning ridge is one of the driest and hottest places on earth. These opals were formed there over thousands of years and its super dry and super hot most of the time there. High temp and extra dry climate is no problem for them. Other opals cant take the heat and dry weather though. Its a huge difference.

4) the majority of opal in the USA is pretty low end. Even pieces made by self appointed "high quality" jewelers. Anyone who knows how to grade opal can tell by looking at the pictures of the stones. Furthermore, I see lots of opal sellers say its "australian opal" when its clearly not (even if they are photoshopped like crazy its still relatively easy to see). The countries that buy the most high end opal is India and China. Of course USA is going to talk down opal because they want to sell diamonds and have billions of dollars in marketing of diamonds.

5) at the end of the day the jewelry industry as a whole is pretty sleazy and scammy with regards to upsell at the retail level when it comes to diamonds especially (especially engagement rings). The mark up is so extreme its borderline criminal because these stones arent rare at all and thats a huge part of the sales pitch.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N5kWu1ifBGU

and if anyone is interested in very cursory overview of the diamond industry watch this (there are much more in depth documentaries available online for free but I assume that people dont have much time)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K-sFSmho4dU
"Opal is the national gemstone of Australia, which produces 97% of the world's supply."
http://www.itsanhonour.gov.au/publications/symbols/factsheets/national_gemstone.pdf

Yes, we Americans THRIVE on selling diamonds. Its our national past time. Especially since we're such massive producers of the stone!
http://geology.com/gemstones/united-states-diamond-production.shtml

"Roughly 49% of diamonds originate from Central and Southern Africa, although significant sources of the mineral have been discovered in Canada, India, Russia, Brazil, and Australia."
http://minerals.usgs.gov/minerals/pubs/commodity/diamond/

Everyone suggested that you talk to your girlfriend and make sure that she wanted yellow diamonds in her engagement ring. I really have no idea if you've done that. I'm guessing you haven't, otherwise you would have spouted off about us being wrong about THAT too.

I suggest you remove diamonds completely from your ring, mostly because all of these Americans here on PS want to sell them to you. Never mind that we have no actual producing diamond mines in the USA. And never mind that there are people all over the world that post to PS. And nevermind that DeBeers, the company that started the whole "hoard the diamonds to drive up prices" campaign is actually based in Luxembourg. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/De_Beers

Please feel free to continue belittling everyone here. There are people here who are gemologists, diamond cutters, diamond cut designers, retailers, jewelry designers, appraisers and jewelry benches, and there are also people who have studied gems, diamonds and GASP, opals for YEARS, but do not have any accreditation. So please. Keep informing us on diamond marketing. And the care and keeping of opals. And jewelry design. We really can't wait!

(BTW, I did a whole paper and presentation about diamonds and DeBeers in a class called "Social Control" in my undergraduate degree. My research extended a bit past youtube.)
 

the_universe

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Re: what size yellow diamonds for a halo around a 12x9 dark

Im not belittling anyone.

FrekeChild|1411101331|3753559 said:
Everyone suggested that you talk to your girlfriend and make sure that she wanted yellow diamonds in her engagement ring. I really have no idea if you've done that. I'm guessing you haven't, otherwise you would have spouted off about us being wrong about THAT too.
^^
I just wanted advice on yellow diamond size not relationship advice
 

Gypsy

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Re: what size yellow diamonds for a halo around a 12x9 dark

Our advice on yellow diamond size: 0.0mm.

No yellow diamonds. It's frankly ugly and will make her ring into her worst nightmare.

She asked for a white diamond halo. Nut up and get her what she wants. You don't know what she likes better than she does. To assume you know better is arrogant.

So stop it and get a white diamond halo the way SHE FREAKING ASKED YOU TO.
 

Stephny691

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Re: what size yellow diamonds for a halo around a 12x9 dark

Gypsy said:
Our advice on yellow diamond size: 0.0mm.

No yellow diamonds. It's frankly ugly and will make her ring into her worst nightmare.

She asked for a white diamond halo. Nut up and get her what she wants. You don't know what she likes better than she does. To assume you know better is arrogant.

So stop it and get a white diamond halo the way SHE FREAKING ASKED YOU TO.

I admire your honesty here Gypsy.

by_the_universe I'm more of a lurker than anything and I certainly don't have the knowledge that the people here do, having said that the one thing I read over and over again is guys coming on here and having an idea but the fact being that their idea simply isn't practical and the people here tend to advise accordingly, and most of the time people are grateful for the advice they receive or at the very least acknowledge the advice- not just tell everyone that they're wrong.

You've completely ignored reasonable questions, no one is trying to give you relationship advice. But we ARE saying JUST ASK HER WHAT SHE WANTS. Show her the CADs and ASK her. Let HER decide on HER melee size. That is your solution; we can advice what WE think looks best (and I think the consensus is yellow melee doesn't do your stone justice), but only SHE can give you the real answer your looking for.

Suck it up and ask your GF what SHE wants.
 

luvsdmb

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Re: what size yellow diamonds for a halo around a 12x9 dark

Ever since I was little I've heard Opals are bad luck unless it's your birthstone. Good luck!
 
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