calling TL

[OTL]

Not sure if this is the way to page somebody, can you help evaluating this spinel please? It's 3.2xct, violet purple. TL, You have so many violet spinels from Tan, lovely lady.

I know Tan's video is under fluor, so although it looks pretty purple here, it might be more greyish blue outdoor?
What do you think of the greyish in this stone? little to none or slightly?
I'm a little concerned about the window but the stone is cut deep (78% depth and there is still a window ), if recut to minimize window, i might end up with a <3ct stone?
It is $500+, overall what do you think of the price and quality of this spinel?
Thank you

PS, you are all very welcome to chime in. Thanks again

 

[chrono]

Not TL but here's my 2 cents about the cut anyway. Yes, the spinel has quite a window considering the depth. The crown is rather flat though, so when recutting, if you shape it for a nice crown for more dispersion, you are going to lose quite a bit of LxW dimension. It can be tweaked only in the pavilion area to minimize the window but due to the low crown, you might still get a more easily seen tilt window.

 

[OTL]

Not TL but here's my 2 cents about the cut anyway. Yes, the spinel has quite a window considering the depth. The crown is rather flat though, so when recutting, if you shape it for a nice crown for more dispersion, you are going to lose quite a bit of LxW dimension. It can be tweaked only in the pavilion area to minimize the window but due to the low crown, you might still get a more easily seen tilt window.

That's my concern too, I don't think I will touch the crown. And I don't even know whether I should fix the pavilion either. I've seen lighter stones lost saturation after recut. I think sometimes the native cut just tend to accumulate color saturation. Although the window might be related to the way this stone is sitting in front of the camera, the straight front view might helps to minimize the window. So actual window may not be as horrible as it's seen now?

color wise, and price wise, what's your thought Chrono?

 

[Kim Bruun]

The saturation looks nice enough on my screen - I'd describe the colour I see as somewhere in the range of 'very slightly greyish' to 'moderately strong', to use multicolour's grading. That said, knowing spinel, I suspect it will be noticeably more grey in hand. I've passed on a lot of greyish purples hoping to find one that pops - and the search continues.

 

[chrono]

I've never purchased violet spinels from Tan. Pink spinel, chrysoberyl and blue sapphire only. From what I know, the more intense the picture looks, the better your chances of a nice looking stone. It looks fairly grayish on my monitor. How sure are you that this is one of those blue / purple changers? Has Tan confirmed this?

 

[OTL]

I've never purchased violet spinels from Tan. Pink spinel, chrysoberyl and blue sapphire only. From what I know, the more intense the picture looks, the better your chances of a nice looking stone. It looks fairly grayish on my monitor. How sure are you that this is one of those blue / purple changers? Has Tan confirmed this?

I never asked. lol, it's usually 2 days to get an answer, and usually not very helpful. I've asked a lot before, he always says medium not dark, good saturation, very little or no grey, no brown at all....and the arrived stone does not match his answer anyway so I gave up.....

I did study a little bit and saved this still picture from TL's spinel. I do not know the size of it, It looks similar to the one I posted. Mine's a little more purple than violet.

I hope this is not a near colorless and overly grey spinel, it's not a cheap stone consider Tan's price on his other spinels.

 

[OTL]

a little larger photo to compare...

 

[OTL]

The saturation looks nice enough on my screen - I'd describe the colour I see as somewhere in the range of 'very slightly greyish' to 'moderately strong', to use multicolour's grading. That said, knowing spinel, I suspect it will be noticeably more grey in hand. I've passed on a lot of greyish purples hoping to find one that pops - and the search continues.

Yes, it is indeed very hard. I've moved on to sapphires already, just happen to see this one listed and thinking it has a potential you know.

 

[Kim Bruun]

Even if the color is nice in hand, the stone begs for a recut - that window would bug me to no end. It would be a small price to pay for the Holy Grail of purple spinels. But I can't count the times I've received a parcel, opened it with trembling hands, feeling the anticipation - and found a small, grey lump inside.

 

[FrekeChild]

I think the cut looks pretty bad. From the shots that you posted, that window is terrible (sidenote: Stones that are cut too deep, too shallow or with incorrect pavilion angles can all have windows. Lots of depth =/= no window.) and it looks extinct other than the window. So yeah, factoring in a major recut, a large loss of weight due to the recut, potential coloration loss due to the recut, and high expense for the stone as it is....

 

[T L]

I've never purchased violet spinels from Tan. Pink spinel, chrysoberyl and blue sapphire only. From what I know, the more intense the picture looks, the better your chances of a nice looking stone. It looks fairly grayish on my monitor. How sure are you that this is one of those blue / purple changers? Has Tan confirmed this?

I never asked. lol, it's usually 2 days to get an answer, and usually not very helpful. I've asked a lot before, he always says medium not dark, good saturation, very little or no grey, no brown at all....and the arrived stone does not match his answer anyway so I gave up.....

I did study a little bit and saved this still picture from TL's spinel. I do not know the size of it, It looks similar to the one I posted. Mine's a little more purple than violet.

I hope this is not a near colorless and overly grey spinel, it's not a cheap stone consider Tan's price on his other spinels.

I bought one like that identical to the color in his videos.

Here's the video of my stone. Its a color shifter and goes more greyish blue in sunlight.

Here's my pic of it in daylight. I like the stone a lot, but I wish it was cut better. It's on my long list of recuts because the window drives me crazy. It would be gorgeous with a Barry cut for example. I think I paid around $300 for it, but I don't remember. It's 3 carats.



Hope that helps.

 

[T L]

I've never purchased violet spinels from Tan. Pink spinel, chrysoberyl and blue sapphire only. From what I know, the more intense the picture looks, the better your chances of a nice looking stone. It looks fairly grayish on my monitor. How sure are you that this is one of those blue / purple changers? Has Tan confirmed this?

I never asked. lol, it's usually 2 days to get an answer, and usually not very helpful. I've asked a lot before, he always says medium not dark, good saturation, very little or no grey, no brown at all....and the arrived stone does not match his answer anyway so I gave up.....

I did study a little bit and saved this still picture from TL's spinel. I do not know the size of it, It looks similar to the one I posted. Mine's a little more purple than violet.

I hope this is not a near colorless and overly grey spinel, it's not a cheap stone consider Tan's price on his other spinels.

Duh, no wonder that stone looked familar. LOL!

 

[OTL]

I've never purchased violet spinels from Tan. Pink spinel, chrysoberyl and blue sapphire only. From what I know, the more intense the picture looks, the better your chances of a nice looking stone. It looks fairly grayish on my monitor. How sure are you that this is one of those blue / purple changers? Has Tan confirmed this?

I never asked. lol, it's usually 2 days to get an answer, and usually not very helpful. I've asked a lot before, he always says medium not dark, good saturation, very little or no grey, no brown at all....and the arrived stone does not match his answer anyway so I gave up.....

I did study a little bit and saved this still picture from TL's spinel. I do not know the size of it, It looks similar to the one I posted. Mine's a little more purple than violet.

I hope this is not a near colorless and overly grey spinel, it's not a cheap stone consider Tan's price on his other spinels.

I bought one like that identical to the color in his videos.

Here's the video of my stone. Its a color shifter and goes more greyish blue in sunlight.

Here's my pic of it in daylight. I like the stone a lot, but I wish it was cut better. It's on my long list of recuts because the window drives me crazy. It would be gorgeous with a Barry cut for example. I think I paid around $300 for it, but I don't remember. It's 3 carats.



Hope that helps.

Thanks TL, it helps a lot!

 

[T L]

Unfortunately, I don't have a db id anymore. I stopped using that a zillion years ago.

Sorry.

 

[OTL]

Unfortunately, I don't have a db id anymore. I stopped using that a zillion years ago.

Sorry.

Ha, deleted.
No problem,

 

[T L]

OK.