Theoretically, no one can guarantee that each of the members is not doing promotions for a specific company.
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On 8/22/2003 9:47:57 AM fire&ice wrote:
LOL...Please show me where Ive RECOMMENDED someone to buy at Tiffany's. All ive done on this board is initially ask for advise, post my options and then talk about my purchasing experience. Can you show me where I've TOLD someone to buy a Tiffany ring? I, unlike some people on this board, realize that what is RIGHT for ME may not be right for any other individual. My recommendation is that the rest of you realize the same.
Leonid, thanks for your reply.
Positive energy here too.....
Agreed. I'm trying to do that within the rules that we hope should help us of keeping the conversation civil. (Any suggestions regarding the forum policies are welcome in private correspondence)
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If you want to keep it as an Anti-anything then Im sure you can ban certain individuals who stir the pot and give their own OPINION. So can I expect to try to log on one day and see that I no longer can, just because I spoke my opinion againt the people who use this forum to promote?
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On 8/19/2003 10:204 AM Kiz wrote:
Stewie, I couldnt agree with you more. I also purchased a Tiffany e-ring and did some research on this board. For me, the Tiffany 6 prong ring as a complete package looked 10X better than the so called "tiffany like" settings that I saw at other jewelers. I got exceptional service at the Tiffany store and was not pushed at all by the salesperson. He also spent a total of 3 weeks eductaing me about my other options during my 6 visits to the store. I had a short timeline to find an e-ring and could not be happier with my purchase. The PEACE OF MIND alone of walking out with a tiffany ring, to me is worth the markup. Any other store I would have questioned the honesty and quality of the stone I purchased, just because I didnt have the time to shop around to the extent I wanted to.
There is a reason why there are so many Tiffany copies out there. Its because the Tiffany e-ring is the style that alot of people are looking for. So why wouldnt you purchase the real deal instead of a copy if you are able to do so. This ring is something she will have for the rest of her life and for me, it was not worth compromising for a better priced COPY.
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On 8/22/2003 9:153 AM Kiz wrote:
Prove to me you are a customer and not an employee.Thats pretty hard to do isnt it? Well, being an outsider how do you expect people to know the face behind the username
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On 8/22/2003 10:12:48 AM fire&ice wrote:
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On 8/19/2003 10:204 AM Kiz wrote:
Stewie, I couldnt agree with you more. I also purchased a Tiffany e-ring and did some research on this board. For me, the Tiffany 6 prong ring as a complete package looked 10X better than the so called "tiffany like" settings that I saw at other jewelers. I got exceptional service at the Tiffany store and was not pushed at all by the salesperson. He also spent a total of 3 weeks eductaing me about my other options during my 6 visits to the store. I had a short timeline to find an e-ring and could not be happier with my purchase. The PEACE OF MIND alone of walking out with a tiffany ring, to me is worth the markup. Any other store I would have questioned the honesty and quality of the stone I purchased, just because I didnt have the time to shop around to the extent I wanted to.
There is a reason why there are so many Tiffany copies out there. Its because the Tiffany e-ring is the style that alot of people are looking for. So why wouldnt you purchase the real deal instead of a copy if you are able to do so. This ring is something she will have for the rest of her life and for me, it was not worth compromising for a better priced COPY.
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What in the world is this then. Is this not a recommendation? Well, in my 43 years of life experience, if it quacks like a duck, walks like a duck, then it's a duck.
I rarely, if ever, recommend someone if I have not had either first hand visual experience or word of mouth (real not keyboard) recommendations for others.
My view on Tiffany & Co. comes from 15 years of handling all kinds of Tiffany items.
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On 8/22/2003 119:40 AM Kiz wrote:
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On 8/19/2003 10:204 AM Kiz wrote:![6.gif"](http://"http://www.pricescope.com/idealbb/images/smilies/6.gif")
I dont see any further need to beat this dead horse.
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That's the best idea yet. Everyone buy where they want. I think everyone here will agree that if you buy at Tiffany's, SuperbCert, ACA, GOG, or several other vendors here, you'll have a superior stone to what you'd get at the mall. And after all isn't that the point? It's not all about the $$$ but QUALITY products, at least in my mind.
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On 8/22/2003 119:40 AM Kiz wrote:
At no time did I tell Tbone to buy a Tiffany ring. Did I
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On 8/22/2003 1:28:22 PM Kiz wrote:
I agree with everything you just said. And if you believe everything you just said, then why does this post provoke the type of response you gave?
Is it that only the experinced participants can post their recommendation? Does a recommendation or opinion not count if you have less than X number of posts under your belt? All this person was doing was providing another option, it may have not been one of you BIG THREE that you like, but nevertheless its an option out there for consumers. I know it was his first post, but does that matter if he is providing usefull information. Just like you said, we dont know if its his site or if he is truly recommending a site he's used, BUT we dont know that about any user on this site for certain.
P.S: Sorry, Leonid.....but this "Greater than Thou" attitude just rubs me the wrong way.
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It's not JUST that Eilon only registered today. It's not JUST that Eilon's *first post* here was offering information on a vendor. It's not JUST that the post was limited to one vendor and sounded promotional in nature. It's not JUST that he also posted another new topic right after this asking if *anyone else* knew of them and whether or not they could be trusted (which he shouldn't have to ask if he just recommended them himself). It's not JUST that he hasn't been trolling around for a while trying to make a purchase. It's not JUST that he has completely no history here.
It's ALL of those things occurring simultaneously that causes the alarms to go off. It's a fine distinction, and perhaps it's lost on you, but it seems to me that most of us who are here quite a bit picked up on it, including the moderator.
Could I be wrong? Sure I could be, and to that end, I ended by asking if he worked there? Eilon could easily respond to advise of such......interesting how he hasn't though, isn't it? You may not be aware of this, but SELF-promotion by a vendor is against the policies of the board. (Again, I though Leonid made all this pretty clear, but I don't mind repeating it for you.)
Lastly, there's no "greater than thou" factor around here either. Part of separating the wheat from the chaff in an online venue (or any other, for that matter) using one's JUDGMENT to determine who is genuine and who perhaps isn't. As either LawGem or Leonid pointed out, it's easier to get a beat on someone when there is a history to track....(past posts) and less so when there isn't.
One of the first times I heard of DBOF was when ccuheartnurse posted her buying experience here with them, and at the time, she didn't have a huge number of posts to her name either....she was a regular participant on another forum, I later learned. But in reading her story, it rang true.
Reading the *first post* from an *unknown* and *newly registered* poster who in one breath is asking if ABC manufacturer can be trusted and in the next breath is suggesting people go to ABC manufacturer and knows their prices are discounted 50%........yup, all of that combined makes my alarm go off.....and not just mine. If you don't see those distinctions, I'm sorry, but I cannot help make it any clearer for you.
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