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ChunkyCushionLover

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Possible Earring Design, I am open to suggestions as well but do not want dressy or busy.
Maybe that design pictured below by Mark Patterson is considered a thin bezel, a half bezel or coin set not sure what you call it.
Was thinking the outline of metal makes it look bigger and more substantial than just a prong set where the plate of metal outline is hidden by the girdle.

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Date: 4/17/2010 7:48:09 PM
Author: ChunkyCushionLover
Possible Earring Design, I am open to suggestions as well but do not want dressy or busy.
Maybe that design pictured below by Mark Patterson is considered a thin bezel, a half bezel or coin set not sure what you call it.
Was thinking the outline of metal makes it look bigger and more substantial than just a prong set where the plate of metal outline is hidden by the girdle.
Absolutely gorgeous idea. I love the idea of a thin bezel. Can I send Mr Gailey over to you for some lessons?
 

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Date: 4/15/2010 8:29:41 PM
Author: tourmaline_lover
I don''t think the stones you picked out are as saturated as this particular Swala stone, based on the photos. That stone also has a blue primary and the stones from Tan have a violet primary. However, I''ve seen more saturated tanzanites from Tan, but they go for more $$$ too. Tan does have some excellent prices though on decent goods, I will give him that. Some items are also more expensive as well, comparable to Swala''s pricing. I think Swala and Tan both have competitive pricing in comparison to the online marketplace.
I don''t understand how to interpret the photographs
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Look at this picture from Paraiba International, video capture versus photograph.
Under what conditions would I actually get the look of that stone shown in the glamour shot?

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Date: 4/18/2010 3:08:08 PM
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Date: 4/15/2010 8:29:41 PM

Author: tourmaline_lover

I don''t think the stones you picked out are as saturated as this particular Swala stone, based on the photos. That stone also has a blue primary and the stones from Tan have a violet primary. However, I''ve seen more saturated tanzanites from Tan, but they go for more $$$ too. Tan does have some excellent prices though on decent goods, I will give him that. Some items are also more expensive as well, comparable to Swala''s pricing. I think Swala and Tan both have competitive pricing in comparison to the online marketplace.
I don''t understand how to interpret the photographs
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Look at this picture from Paraiba International, video capture versus photograph.

Under what conditions would I actually get the look of that stone shown in the glamour shot?

As all photos vary from vendor to vendor, I''m learning all videos do as well. It''s funny you mention ParaibaInternational''s videos, because someone just said that their stones look better IRL and the photos than the video. If you''re truly interested in a certain specific color, I would email a vendor the photo of the stones you''re interested in so they can surmise their inventory for that particular color.
 

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Date: 4/18/2010 3:08:08 PM
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Date: 4/15/2010 8:29:41 PM
Author: tourmaline_lover
I don''t think the stones you picked out are as saturated as this particular Swala stone, based on the photos. That stone also has a blue primary and the stones from Tan have a violet primary. However, I''ve seen more saturated tanzanites from Tan, but they go for more $$$ too. Tan does have some excellent prices though on decent goods, I will give him that. Some items are also more expensive as well, comparable to Swala''s pricing. I think Swala and Tan both have competitive pricing in comparison to the online marketplace.
I don''t understand how to interpret the photographs
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Look at this picture from Paraiba International, video capture versus photograph.
Under what conditions would I actually get the look of that stone shown in the glamour shot?
In the image you posted, it quite clearly states:

"Actual item for sale, video colour NOT enhanced"

Does it also say that about the photograph?
 

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I think the FIRST question to ask prior to any buy is "Will you take this stone back for refund if it is not what I am looking for?"

This is important if you are working with a dealer for the first time.

Since you have several decision parameters, this is important.
 

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Date: 4/18/2010 5:09:04 PM
Author: StonieGrl
I think the FIRST question to ask prior to any buy is ''Will you take this stone back for refund if it is not what I am looking for?''

This is important if you are working with a dealer for the first time.

Since you have several decision parameters, this is important.
Very good point!!
 

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Date: 4/18/2010 3:39:51 PM
Author: Gailey


Date: 4/18/2010 3:08:08 PM
Author: ChunkyCushionLover



Date: 4/15/2010 8:29:41 PM
Author: tourmaline_lover
I don't think the stones you picked out are as saturated as this particular Swala stone, based on the photos. That stone also has a blue primary and the stones from Tan have a violet primary. However, I've seen more saturated tanzanites from Tan, but they go for more $$$ too. Tan does have some excellent prices though on decent goods, I will give him that. Some items are also more expensive as well, comparable to Swala's pricing. I think Swala and Tan both have competitive pricing in comparison to the online marketplace.
I don't understand how to interpret the photographs
33.gif
.
Look at this picture from Paraiba International, video capture versus photograph.
Under what conditions would I actually get the look of that stone shown in the glamour shot?
In the image you posted, it quite clearly states:

'Actual item for sale, video colour NOT enhanced'

Does it also say that about the photograph?
No it doesn't but their photographs are a little inconsistant. This one for example the video matches the photograph pretty closely in color and saturation and the saturation looks a lot deeper. I was about to post this and then I realized the LW ratio is different the stone in the video looks retangular
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whereas the dimensions are a perfect square.

http://www.paraibainternational.com/product_info.php?product=1612

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Date: 4/17/2010 4:09:34 PM
Author: Gailey
From the world''s second most difficult to navigate gem website, Farlang, you can see the work of an award winning lapidarist who has very nice tanzanite, Stephen Avery.

I have seen his stones in person, many of which appear on the Farlang site and his cutting and choice of material is excellent. I don''t know if he is exhibiting a pair of tanzanites or not, but he would be well worth approaching as he specialises in pairs and sets of stones. He has won AGTA Spectrum awards, so don''t expect his work to be cheap. Definitely stones of the heirloom variety.
Thanks for linking me, his work is fantastic maybe for a really important project in the future. Don''t want to go crazy on cost for this birthday gift, my wife would rather I spend on our trip to Greece this summer. This spess he cut is fantastic.

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Date: 4/19/2010 12:10:37 AM
Author: ChunkyCushionLover


Date: 4/17/2010 4:09:34 PM
Author: Gailey
From the world's second most difficult to navigate gem website, Farlang, you can see the work of an award winning lapidarist who has very nice tanzanite, Stephen Avery.

I have seen his stones in person, many of which appear on the Farlang site and his cutting and choice of material is excellent. I don't know if he is exhibiting a pair of tanzanites or not, but he would be well worth approaching as he specialises in pairs and sets of stones. He has won AGTA Spectrum awards, so don't expect his work to be cheap. Definitely stones of the heirloom variety.
Thanks for linking me, his work is fantastic maybe for a really important project in the future. Don't want to go crazy on cost for this birthday gift, my wife would rather I spend on our trip to Greece this summer. This spess he cut is fantastic.
I have Stephen Avery last year and he seems to be a very nice man and extremely talented as you have seen. I think his stones are absolutely stunning. Lisa Elser has Stephen Avery to thank for introducing me to the beauty of good quality rubellite. I bought a killer rubellite from Lisa.

With regard to the spess however, I have also seen that particular stone in person as well. Now I am not as educated as many that frequent this board, so you need to read my comment with that in mind. I thought it looked like the colour of maderia citrine, albeit with phenomenal sparkle and a superb cut. I don't remember it's cost exactly, but let's just say you could buy a lot of maderia citrine for the same money, probably enough to tile a backsplash!
 

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Date: 4/19/2010 12:00:31 AM
Author: ChunkyCushionLover

Date: 4/18/2010 3:39:51 PM
Author: Gailey



Date: 4/18/2010 3:08:08 PM
Author: ChunkyCushionLover




Date: 4/15/2010 8:29:41 PM
Author: tourmaline_lover
I don''t think the stones you picked out are as saturated as this particular Swala stone, based on the photos. That stone also has a blue primary and the stones from Tan have a violet primary. However, I''ve seen more saturated tanzanites from Tan, but they go for more $$$ too. Tan does have some excellent prices though on decent goods, I will give him that. Some items are also more expensive as well, comparable to Swala''s pricing. I think Swala and Tan both have competitive pricing in comparison to the online marketplace.
I don''t understand how to interpret the photographs
33.gif
.
Look at this picture from Paraiba International, video capture versus photograph.
Under what conditions would I actually get the look of that stone shown in the glamour shot?
In the image you posted, it quite clearly states:

''Actual item for sale, video colour NOT enhanced''

Does it also say that about the photograph?
No it doesn''t but their photographs are a little inconsistant. This one for example the video matches the photograph pretty closely in color and saturation and the saturation looks a lot deeper. I was about to post this and then I realized the LW ratio is different the stone in the video looks retangular
33.gif
whereas the dimensions are a perfect square.

http://www.paraibainternational.com/product_info.php?product=1612
Gee, I wonder what that could mean
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Don''t get me started ........
 

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CCL, I saw the 150ct peridot....
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that thing was amazingly green. I want!!
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-A
 

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Date: 4/19/2010 12:00:31 AM
Author: ChunkyCushionLover
No it doesn''t but their photographs are a little inconsistant. This one for example the video matches the photograph pretty closely in color and saturation and the saturation looks a lot deeper. I was about to post this and then I realized the LW ratio is different the stone in the video looks retangular
33.gif
whereas the dimensions are a perfect square.

http://www.paraibainternational.com/product_info.php?product=1612
Good catch, CCL. Do you think our eyes are playing tricks on us or is it something else? It could be an honest mistake where PI linked the video to an incorrect tanzanite.
 

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Date: 4/19/2010 9:11:04 AM
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Date: 4/19/2010 12:00:31 AM
Author: ChunkyCushionLover
No it doesn't but their photographs are a little inconsistant. This one for example the video matches the photograph pretty closely in color and saturation and the saturation looks a lot deeper. I was about to post this and then I realized the LW ratio is different the stone in the video looks retangular
33.gif
whereas the dimensions are a perfect square.

http://www.paraibainternational.com/product_info.php?product=1612
Good catch, CCL. Do you think our eyes are playing tricks on us or is it something else? It could be an honest mistake where PI linked the video to an incorrect tanzanite.
I am leaning towards bad camera angles and it is the same stone, pretty hard to reproduce those virtual facets I think as the video and photograph do in some ways match.
 

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Can I be your adopted wife? I want some goodies too :)

Your real wife can have everything else!
 

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Date: 4/19/2010 9:01:14 PM
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Can I be your adopted wife? I want some goodies too :)

Your real wife can have everything else!
Hah so charming! Mrs. CCL would probably just laugh at reading this. You have plenty of goodies already!
 

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Date: 4/19/2010 9:11:04 AM
Author: Chrono

Date: 4/19/2010 12:00:31 AM
Author: ChunkyCushionLover
No it doesn''t but their photographs are a little inconsistant. This one for example the video matches the photograph pretty closely in color and saturation and the saturation looks a lot deeper. I was about to post this and then I realized the LW ratio is different the stone in the video looks retangular
33.gif
whereas the dimensions are a perfect square.

http://www.paraibainternational.com/product_info.php?product=1612
Good catch, CCL. Do you think our eyes are playing tricks on us or is it something else? It could be an honest mistake where PI linked the video to an incorrect tanzanite.
So its confirmed just poor camera angles it is the actual stone. PI said they supply stones to Leon Mege and are in New York, which I never knew. Looks like a pair of matching 2 carat stone with top saturation will run about $450 a carat from them, and although retail will change the prices based on the primary color and not having secondary, wholesale will only base the price of tanzanite most dominantly on the saturation rather than how much the mix of blue or purple is in the hue. $1800 for the 4cttw pair fair price?
 
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