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Re: Royal Jewels

Post by prince.of.preslav » February 20th, 2012, 3:20 pm
TRH The Prince of Wales & The Duchess of Cornwall will visit Norway, Sweden and Denmark from March 20th to March 27th this year. The visits to these monarchies will mark the official start of the overseas visits by Their Royal Highnesses. In each country The Prince & The Duchess will be the guests of the respective Soverign and his/her Consort.
Here you can read the official press release - http://www.princeofwales.gov.uk/mediacentre/pressreleases/the_prince_of_wales_and_the_duchess_of_cornwall_to_visit_nor_1023775372.html

I can very well imagine glittering black tie banquets in Norway and Denmark, possibly also with tiaras in Daisy's realm ;)

PS: Queen Beatrix is sheduled to pay a State Visit to TRH The Grand Duke & Grand Duchess of Luxembourg from March 20th to 22nd. Hope things with Friso will be better untill then, so that we can enjoy a relaxed royal visit.

Bobby
Re: Royal Jewels

Post by prince.of.preslav » February 20th, 2012, 4:01 pm
It looks like this photo (taken in 2010) is the offiacial Diamond Jubilee Portrait for Canada. Lovely and thoughtful as the portrait is, it's a pity that it's so small, compared to the ones issued for Great Britain and New Zealand...
For those interested, The Queen's wearing the Girls of Great Britain and Ireland tiara, the Festoon necklace, the antique girandole earrings, Queen Mary'e Art Deco cuff bracelet and a watch in diamonds.

The photograph can be seen here - http://www.canadiancrown.com/uploads/3/8/4/1/3841927/5801457.jpg?338

Bobby
Re: Royal Jewels

Post by Lady_Disdain » February 21st, 2012, 10:56 am
Written by prince.of.preslav » February 20th, 2012, 2:42 pm:Here are some rather recent photos of Princess Alexandra:
At the pre-wedding gala for the then Prince William of Wales and Miss Catherine Middleton:
http://www2.pictures.zimbio.com/gi/Princess+Alexandra+Royal+Wedding+Pre+Wedding+j73ul7-HJTSl.jpg


What is she holding in this picture? It looks like a molded plastic novelty hat.
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Re: Royal Jewels

Post by JewelFreak » February 22nd, 2012, 6:53 am
It is! :lol: Union Jack on the hat's crown. Dignified royal party, eh?

P. Alexandra is always impeccable, but in that photo, I'm not crazy about the combination of emeralds with her mauve outfit. A little odd.

--- Laurie
Re: Royal Jewels

Post by AGBF » February 22nd, 2012, 9:12 am
Written by JewelFreak » February 22nd, 2012, 6:53 am:

P. Alexandra is always impeccable, but in that photo, I'm not crazy about the combination of emeralds with her mauve outfit. A little odd.



I had to go back and look, Laurie. First, on my monitor the outfit isn't mauve, but a lilac or lavender of some sort (not that that would make it look any better with emeralds!). What I noticed, however-unless my eyes are playing tricks on me-is that the outfit itself appears to be studded with green jewels. If that is so, whether or not one likes the idea of green jewels upon lavender, it makes sense to wear matching green jewels with that outfit!

Do tell me if you, also, see the green jewels sewn onto the blouse of Princess Alexandra's gown!

Deb
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Re: Royal Jewels

Post by JewelFreak » February 22nd, 2012, 10:26 am
If you hadn't mentioned it, Deb, I would have thought the sparkles were a darker purple -- but on my monitor they do have a very faint green modifier, lol. That must be it -- can't imagine her picking emeralds otherwise. Thanks, solved that mystery!

--- Laurie
Re: Royal Jewels

Post by Lady_Disdain » February 22nd, 2012, 10:33 am
Written by JewelFreak » February 22nd, 2012, 6:53 am:It is! :lol: Union Jack on the hat's crown. Dignified royal party, eh?

P. Alexandra is always impeccable, but in that photo, I'm not crazy about the combination of emeralds with her mauve outfit. A little odd.

--- Laurie


My poor illusions about dignified royalty have gone up in smoke...

I can clearly see green stones in the embroidery. It isn't the main colour, but I like how she picks it up and echoes it in her jewelry. The colour on the emerald rings seems fantastic.
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Re: Royal Jewels

Post by WithinDemise » February 23rd, 2012, 12:44 am
For those interested, Crown Princess Victoria of Sweden has given birth to a healthy baby girl this morning! the name will be announced either today or tomorrow by the King!
Re: Royal Jewels

Post by AGBF » February 23rd, 2012, 5:23 pm
Written by WithinDemise » February 23rd, 2012, 12:44 am:
For those interested, Crown Princess Victoria of Sweden has given birth to a healthy baby girl this morning! the name will be announced either today or tomorrow by the King!



Well...she is now second in line for the throne!

Deb/AGBF
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Re: Royal Jewels

Post by Lady_Disdain » February 24th, 2012, 7:28 am
Written by WithinDemise » February 23rd, 2012, 12:44 am:For those interested, Crown Princess Victoria of Sweden has given birth to a healthy baby girl this morning! the name will be announced either today or tomorrow by the King!


Welcome, baby Estelle!
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Re: Royal Jewels

Post by LadyMaria » February 24th, 2012, 8:43 am
The Good News: The full name of the new Swedish Princess is Estelle Silvia Ewa Mary

The Bad News: A statement was released on Prince Friso's condition, and it's not good. The doctors confirmed there was extensive brain damage, and he may never wake up from his coma. The doctors had hoped that since his body temperature was low, that the hypothermia might have offered some protection from brain damage (hypothermia protecting from brain damage is well documented), but this did not happen. The Dutch royal family is looking into "suitable clinics" for Friso.

My heart goes out to the family, and the thoughts and prayers will continue.
Lady Maria

"HM Queen of Chemistry, Tsarina of Teaching, Princess of Puke, and Madam Mad Scientist"
Re: Royal Jewels

Post by prince.of.preslav » February 25th, 2012, 9:28 am
Written by LadyMaria » February 24th, 2012, 8:43 am:The Good News: The full name of the new Swedish Princess is Estelle Silvia Ewa Mary


Honestly, I had higher expectations for the names and the title of the wee princess... Yesterday I dodn't like the name at all, but today I'm more or less used to it. May HRH The Duchess of Östergötland have a very happy childhood (and in due time enjoy the company of other siblings): )
BTW, I supose The Crown Princess of Denmark would be the godmother ;)

The Bad News: A statement was released on Prince Friso's condition, and it's not good. The doctors confirmed there was extensive brain damage, and he may never wake up from his coma. The doctors had hoped that since his body temperature was low, that the hypothermia might have offered some protection from brain damage (hypothermia protecting from brain damage is well documented), but this did not happen. The Dutch royal family is looking into "suitable clinics" for Friso.

My heart goes out to the family, and the thoughts and prayers will continue.


This is all so devastating... Princes Mabel, the Contesses, Queen Beatrix and the rest of the family have been in my thoughts since this terrible excident happened... For the Sake of the family I do hope the Princes will continue fighting for his life.

Bobby
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Re: Royal Jewels

Post by prince.of.preslav » February 25th, 2012, 9:52 am
Another sad news from yesterday - HH Infanta Maria Adelaide of Portugal passed away less than a month after celebrating her 100th birthday. The last granddaughter of D. Manuel II and aunt of HRH The Duke of Braganca, Infanta Maria Adelaide was a very interesting historiacal character and a sweet old lady.
May she rest in peace...

Image

A few other photos of the late Infanta and a video from her 100th birthday can be seen here:
http://ppmbraga.blogspot.com/2012/02/faleceu-sas-senhora-infanta-dona.html

Bobby
Re: Royal Jewels

Post by prince.of.preslav » February 25th, 2012, 10:03 am
To mark HM The Queen's Diamond Jubilee, TRHThe Earl & The Countess of Wessex are on an official visit to Barbados where they attended a state dinner. At the dinner HRH wore one of her diamond necklaces and pairs of diamond earrings. What medal is HRH wearing?
Image
http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2012/02/25/article-0-11E5E4CD000005DC-130_634x822.jpg

More photos from the dinner can be seen here - http://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz/article-2106246/Prince-Edward-Sophie-wear-ordinated-outfits-attend-Barbados-state-dinner.html

Bobby
Re: Royal Jewels

Post by AGBF » February 25th, 2012, 9:49 pm
Well...we're doing a lot of jumping from subject to subject here, but I guess there is just a lot happening among the crowned heads of Europe at the moment. I wanted to post the first photo of Princess Estelle of Sweden that was published. I had actually been hoping that a better one would be published by now, but since one was not, the first one will have to do!

Here is what one newspaper had to say about the photo:

"The humble family-photo features Crown Princess Victoria and Prince Daniel holding a car seat with what appears to be the just hours-old infant wrapped in a blanket with a white hat on her head.

'It says a lot about Victoria and the kind of person she is,' Roger Lundgren, previous editor of Queen magazine and expert on the Swedish royal family, told The Local.

'You wouldn't see the British royals or Kate and William publish a picture like that.'

The picture was taken shortly before the proud parents left Karolinska University Hospital to return to their home at nearby Haga Palace.

Within minutes of being published on the Royal Court's Facebook page, the picture had garnered more than 2,500 likes and close to 600 shares, with both figures climbing rapidly.

While the Royal Court only joined Facebook a few months ago, it has embraced the social networking site's potential to help spread word about the birth of the new princess.

'We live in world where social media is how we communicate any there have been a lot of positive reactions on Facebook,' said Lundgren.

The picture was released shortly after a 42 cannon salute took place in central Stockholm across from the Royal Palace.

Normally, only 21 cannons are fired to salute the arrival of a royal baby, but when an heir to the throne is born, the number is doubled to 42."

Deb/AGBF
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Re: Royal Jewels

Post by LadyMaria » February 26th, 2012, 11:05 am
Written by prince.of.preslav » February 25th, 2012, 10:03 am:To mark HM The Queen's Diamond Jubilee, TRHThe Earl & The Countess of Wessex are on an official visit to Barbados where they attended a state dinner. At the dinner HRH wore one of her diamond necklaces and pairs of diamond earrings. What medal is HRH wearing?
Image
http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2012/02/25/article-0-11E5E4CD000005DC-130_634x822.jpg

More photos from the dinner can be seen here - http://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz/article-2106246/Prince-Edward-Sophie-wear-ordinated-outfits-attend-Barbados-state-dinner.html

Bobby


I was wondering about that too...I am assuming the star is from the Royal Victorian order. Is is possible this is the Diamond Jubilee medal? I know William and Harry wore the Golden Jubilee medals on their uniforms at the wedding. Do women even wear some memento from the Jubillees?
Lady Maria

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Re: Royal Jewels

Post by BubblyBear » February 26th, 2012, 2:31 pm
The ribbon on Sophie's medal certainly looks to be the right colors and pattern, based on my google searches, but all the images I've seen are straight ribbons - no bows as hers has. Perhaps non-military members of the Royal Household received a different design??
Re: Royal Jewels

Post by Imdanny » February 27th, 2012, 1:36 pm
Ahh! I wrote a long post and accidentally deleted it while I was trying to log in.

Ok, short version:

I've seen the light. I think the people who wear these jewels, and the jewels' historical and cultural contexts are integral to understanding them, and perfectly suited to this thread. Bobby, I'm sorry I ever said otherwise. I just wasn't thinking it through!

On that note, I watched a documentary about Prince Albert on YouTube last night. It was fascinating! We can't link to YouTube but it can be found there under "Prince Albert of Saxe-Coburg-Gotha Part One", etc. in six parts.

I have a few questions if any of you would like to weigh in-

A. Do you have any opinions about Prince Albert or about Queen Victoria and Prince Albert's relationship?

B. Do you believe Queen Victoria was intimate with John Brown?

C. Do you have a list of the jewels Prince Albert designed and had made?

D. Do you have pictures of them?

BTW, I never tire of seeing the tiara with sapphires, so if you have a good picture of it please feel free to post it again.

Thanks!
Re: Royal Jewels

Post by AGBF » February 27th, 2012, 2:18 pm
Written by Imdanny » February 27th, 2012, 1:36 pm:
BTW, I never tire of seeing the tiara with sapphires, so if you have a good picture of it please feel free to post it again.



Hi, Danny! I didn't know which of these photos would end up being better. The larger one looked darker, so I thought I'd post them both. Perhaps someone else has an even better shot of the tiara! Thanks for your posting, I hope it brings forth some interesting information on jewels!

Deb/AGBF
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Re: Royal Jewels

Post by prince.of.preslav » February 27th, 2012, 5:31 pm
Written by Imdanny » February 27th, 2012, 1:36 pm:Ahh! I wrote a long post and accidentally deleted it while I was trying to log in.

Ok, short version:

I've seen the light. I think the people who wear these jewels, and the jewels' historical and cultural contexts are integral to understanding them, and perfectly suited to this thread. Bobby, I'm sorry I ever said otherwise. I just wasn't thinking it through!


Ha! I knew this day was going to come, Danny!

A. Do you have any opinions about Prince Albert or about Queen Victoria and Prince Albert's relationship?
B. Do you believe Queen Victoria was intimate with John Brown?


I think they were a very good team and complimented each other very nicely. The Prince Consort was indeed Queen Victoria's true love (and vice versa), but I think Her Majesty was way too much dependant on him. About everything actually - from organising the household to state affairs and even her jewllery. It was good that she had him up to the moment when HRH died and left his darling Victoria devastated, alone and having to cope with the whole Empire. Yes, she had her large family on which she could rely but the meaning of her life was gone. About Prince Albert I think that he was an ambitious, clever man and his position as the consort in a country like Britain suited his ambitions and intelect very much.
In the way I see things, Queen Victoria had a very close relationship with John Brown for monarch and one of her many servants. Mr Brown was a very strong charachter, just lice Albert had been, and that's one thing The Queen saw and liked in him, but I'm pretty sure that he was not in charge of her heart. I believe (or rather hope) that HM was devoted up untill the last breath to her consort.
To answer your question - No, I din't think Queen Victoria and Brown were intimate in the sence that they were lovers. I think she saw him more or less like a substitute for Albert, but not in her bed. In the end I think there was genuine affection and respect, perhaph even a bit of love between them
Re: Royal Jewels

Post by prince.of.preslav » February 27th, 2012, 6:06 pm
Written by Imdanny » February 27th, 2012, 1:36 pm:C. Do you have a list of the jewels Prince Albert designed and had made?

D. Do you have pictures of them?

BTW, I never tire of seeing the tiara with sapphires, so if you have a good picture of it please feel free to post it again.

Thanks!


A list of all jewels that were designed/commisioned by The Prince Consort for Queen Victoria would be impossible to make as it would consist of hundreds oj items, most of them smaller jewels for everyday wear.
Among the best known and impertant jewels that were designed by HRH was of course the small sapphire tiara, the emerald tiara (and the rest of the parure?), the Oriental Circlet (originally set with opeals). There were possibly some jewels (speculation - a small tiara, necklaces) in diamonds and opals that he had made for Victoria. The Prince might have given some input on how to make the Regal Circlet adaptable to accomodate the Koh-i-Noor and the Cumreland diamonds. HRH was also the one to stand behind the re-cutting of the Koh-i-Noor.
As jewels from the Victorian era are mainly known for their santimental, rather than monetary value I have to mention that Prince Albert had pebbles and stones from the royal residences set into necklaces, bracelets, brooches, etc for The Queen and other family members. There were also jewles made of gold and the teeth of stags shot on Windsor and Balmoral. There were also jewels that mark some special events for the family, like the birth of a child or the falling of a first tooth. One of the best jewels (IMHO) is a bracelet that mimics the collar of the Order of the Garter and has a picture of Albert as centerpiece.

Here you can see some of the jewels that I mentioned:
http://www.royalcollection.org.uk/egallery/object.asp?searchText=oriental+circlet&x=0&y=0&object=200174&row=0
http://www.royalcollection.org.uk/egallery/object.asp?collector=12772&display=acquired&pagesize=20&object=4815&row=130
http://www.royalcollection.org.uk/egallery/object.asp?collector=12772&display=acquired&pagesize=20&object=4806&row=164
http://www.royalcollection.org.uk/egallery/object.asp?searchText=bracelet&x=0&y=0&pagesize=20&object=13538&row=7
http://www.royalcollection.org.uk/egallery/object.asp?searchText=bracelet&x=0&y=0&pagesize=20&object=12453&row=6
http://www.royalcollection.org.uk/egallery/object.asp?collector=12772&display=acquired&pagesize=20&object=13508&row=280

Bobby
Re: Royal Jewels

Post by prince.of.preslav » February 27th, 2012, 6:11 pm
Danny, because you said that you can't get enoug of Queen Victoria's sapphire tiara, here you can see two photos from it's latest outing.

http://www.hamhigh.co.uk/news/queen_victoria_s_tiara_turns_up_in_a_highgate_home_1_1186490

Bobby
Re: Royal Jewels

Post by prince.of.preslav » February 27th, 2012, 6:18 pm
For those interested, here are the first official portraits of HRh The Duchess of Östergötland:
http://www.kungahuset.se/kungafamiljen/aktuellahandelser/aretsaktuellahandelser/prinsessanestelleforstabilderna.5.70e7de59130bc8da54e800020977.html

*The photos can be seen in HQ once you click on Bild 1/Bild 2/Bild 3
**The cardigan was made by the great-granmother Alice :)

Bobby
Re: Royal Jewels

Post by Imdanny » February 28th, 2012, 5:54 pm
Written by AGBF » February 27th, 2012, 2:18 pm:
Written by Imdanny » February 27th, 2012, 1:36 pm:
BTW, I never tire of seeing the tiara with sapphires, so if you have a good picture of it please feel free to post it again.



Hi, Danny! I didn't know which of these photos would end up being better. The larger one looked darker, so I thought I'd post them both. Perhaps someone else has an even better shot of the tiara! Thanks for your posting, I hope it brings forth some interesting information on jewels!

Deb/AGBF
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Hi, Deb! Thank you! I love the top one. I made it my desktop. I think this is neo-Gothic. And I think it is my favorite style in all the world. What an exquisite thing this tiara. :love:

Danny
Re: Royal Jewels

Post by Imdanny » February 28th, 2012, 5:57 pm
Written by prince.of.preslav » February 27th, 2012, 6:11 pm:Danny, because you said that you can't get enoug of Queen Victoria's sapphire tiara, here you can see two photos from it's latest outing.

http://www.hamhigh.co.uk/news/queen_victoria_s_tiara_turns_up_in_a_highgate_home_1_1186490

Bobby


Bobby, wow! That's amazing! I didn't know it was so small! And that man is actually holding it in his hand. :o

Thank you so much for the commentary and links! I didn't know that Prince Albert designed so many pieces. Incredible. :))

Danny
Re: Royal Jewels

Post by JewelFreak » February 29th, 2012, 7:00 am
It is one of the most beautiful tiaras I ever saw too, Danny. I've always loved its small size, kind of pint-sized perfection. The sapphires are also so well matched & gorgeous color. Albert was a gifted jewelry designer, though I do find the pebble & teeth stuff creepy as heck.


--- Laurie
Re: Royal Jewels

Post by prince.of.preslav » February 29th, 2012, 5:42 pm
Written by Imdanny » February 28th, 2012, 5:57 pm:
Bobby, wow! That's amazing! I didn't know it was so small! And that man is actually holding it in his hand. :o

Thank you so much for the commentary and links! I didn't know that Prince Albert designed so many pieces. Incredible. :))

Danny


No troubles, Danny! It was a pleasure :)
Ohh yes, he is! And I envy him very much for all the opportunities Mr Munn's had to hold magnifiscent (royal) jewels in his hands!
By the way, I forgot to mention (or didn't see the need then) that the tiara is shown in it's closed, coronet-like, state, like Queen Victoria wore it in the famous Winterhalter. Deborah's photos show the opened (tiara-like) version of the jewel.

Bobby
Re: Royal Jewels

Post by Imdanny » February 29th, 2012, 5:56 pm
Thanks, Bobby! That does explain a lot. :)
Re: Royal Jewels

Post by Imdanny » February 29th, 2012, 6:08 pm
Written by JewelFreak » February 29th, 2012, 7:00 am:It is one of the most beautiful tiaras I ever saw too, Danny. I've always loved its small size, kind of pint-sized perfection. The sapphires are also so well matched & gorgeous color. Albert was a gifted jewelry designer, though I do find the pebble & teeth stuff creepy as heck.


--- Laurie


I agree with you, Laurie. I need to contemplate that stuff awhile but people in the Victorian era had very different sensibilities about things like stuffed animal displays and some of it seems creepy to me too.
Re: Royal Jewels

Post by AGBF » February 29th, 2012, 6:16 pm
Written by prince.of.preslav » February 29th, 2012, 5:42 pm:
By the way, I forgot to mention (or didn't see the need then) that the tiara is shown in it's closed, coronet-like, state, like Queen Victoria wore it in the famous Winterhalter. Deborah's photos show the opened (tiara-like) version of the jewel.



Please tell me more, Bobby. How was the tiara converted to the coronet and the coronet converted to the tiara?

Deb/AGBF
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