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bliss_cathy

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Okay, I'm going to try to abridge this as much as possible (and it's still super long sorry!), I think the whole thing actually shocked me a bit which is why I need to write it down. I have a friend who is not a close friend but for some reason I seem to have been the go to person for her when things fall apart for her, I think maybe because I used to be quite good friends with her Ex. In all honesty I find it difficult to spend a lot of time with her as advice seems to fall on deaf ears and she is very different in personality to other friends and family I usually surround myself with. I probably talked to her about once every 3-5 months.

About four years ago she called me because she broke up with her Ex. I listened was the sympathetic ear etc. Tried to help her to move on, encourage her to do exercise etc, she is still currently single.

Over a a year ago I get another phone call to be picked up because she has been fired from her job and doesn't have a car to get home. I listened again. She was suing her company for unfair dismissal and also had two consecutive flat mates move out on her. Ie she was broke.

It gets worse.

2 years beforehand she was in a minor car accident, she walked away from it fine, but decided to use that to claim for workers compensation.

So then all of a sudden she started constantly complaining of pain in her back etc...she was successful in the workers comp claim and workers comp was paying her her salary allowing her to stay at home.

I tried to encourage her to look for work etc, get a hobby etc but she didn't work or look for work for a year. During this time she was exercising etc. Had found a new flatmate etc and her back was fine.

Then 2 months ago I hear from her again. Her workers comp was due to finish in 2 months. All of a sudden the back pain was back with a vengeance, and she needed me to drive her to the drs as she was in so much pain. I drove her to the drs. She picked up a plethora of drugs ranging from sleeping tablets and valium, to strong pain killers. She also needed to borrow money. I was quite worried and said you should not be taking all those drugs together.

2 weeks later I thought her back would be better and she texted me saying she was on crutches and she was seeing an acute pain specialist. At this point I said something along the lines of 'please get a second opinion, I am worried about all the drugs and I am worried that at your age you should be focused on getting better ie. getting a job, a boyfriend, a hobby, not dwelling on being in pain.' To which she replied very long and nasty texts, about as long as this whole post, going on about how could I not believe she was in pain, the accident has ruined her life, why would she change drs and her diagnosis if she is currently getting workers compensation because of that etc. I didn't reply for a couple days, and then said, I'm sorry but I was worried. She sent more long winded texts demanding me to say she was in pain, telling me what I should be doing as a friend etc. Now she was suing for loss of future income and needs money for stay a home nurses, etc and that I need to support her as that is what a friend would do. I was quite shocked. So I just wrote back, I'm sorry I think there was a misunderstanding.

1) I listened to her complain about my friend when they broke up, even though I know he's a good guy 2) I listened when she was fired from two jobs about how bad the company and bosses were 3) when her flat mates moved out I listed to how bad they were 4) when she got workers comp for a year I listened to how her back was so sore...

However 5) I can't keep listening when you have not moved on and bettered any part of your life over 4 years!

Anyhow, I didn't once get angry, I kept my cool, but didn't speak to be for about 6 weeks as I was away for Xmas and New Years with family and friends. So when I got back from holidays, I see she's defriended me on Facebook!! After everything!! Such a passive aggressive thing to do.

Sigh....so that's my vent. She was also the type of person to say underhanded comments, like 'not everyone has such a flashy engagement ring like you do', Or 'people only live where you do because they are snobs' etc so I know she was never a great friend to me. Also everything was always about her dramas, constantly, it was exhausting and draining.

I just feel like saying poor me! I hope I'm not being delusional to think that I need some sympathy after all this!!

Thanks to anyone who read this, I know it was long!!!
 

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She defriended you and this has upset you?

Now, I realize that you have invested time and effort on her behalf . . . but . . . you have been set free. Rejoice, already.
 

bliss_cathy

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HollyS|1389240767|3589315 said:
She defriended you and this has upset you?

Now, I realize that you have invested time and effort on her behalf . . . but . . . you have been set free. Rejoice, already.


Hmmm, I think I was upset about the angry texts she sent me before the end of the year. Then I think I feel the effort I did expend ie, driving her to the drs, driving her home when she lost her job, listening etc when she would ring me upset etc, I feel like that was all thrown in my face a bit by the defriending. Like I am the one to feel I did something wrong despite all the crazy on her behalf.
 

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Ugh. She's a total basketcase. You're clearly a compassionate person but some people don't need compassion, they need therapy. Anyway, what's done is done and she dumped you. Good. If she attempts to reconcile in the future, ignore her.
 

Indylady

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Sounds awful--just try to move on and appreciate that, at least, she's made it a little easier on you to get away from her.
 

bliss_cathy

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rubyshoes|1389243946|3589339 said:
Ugh. She's a total basketcase. You're clearly a compassionate person but some people don't need compassion, they need therapy. Anyway, what's done is done and she dumped you. Good. If she attempts to reconcile in the future, ignore her.

I was Facebook dumped by a total basket case ;(

Rubyshoes your comment made me laugh :lol: thank you!
 

diamondseeker2006

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You can rest in knowing that you did your best to help her. Be glad she was the one who ended it so you didn't have to!
 

movie zombie

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do not take any more calls from her.
do not return her e-mails.
etc.
and she will be back wanting more.
just don't do it.
 

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movie zombie|1389248352|3589371 said:
do not take any more calls from her.
do not return her e-mails.
etc.
and she will be back wanting more.
just don't do it.

I could not agree more.
 

bliss_cathy

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asscherisme|1389250219|3589375 said:
movie zombie|1389248352|3589371 said:
do not take any more calls from her.
do not return her e-mails.
etc.
and she will be back wanting more.
just don't do it.

I could not agree more.

No, she lost a friend when she verbally assaulted me through text message after text message after I had driven her around for 3 hours taking her to the Dr and back home :nono:
 

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She's a user... and you let her use you for a long time.

From what you've told us - which is of course a very short story about a long relationship - you've allowed yourself to be in a very one-sided relationship for a rather long time. It might be worth your while to give some thought to why you allowed yourself to remain in this relationship for so long.
 

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diamondseeker2006|1389248111|3589369 said:
You can rest in knowing that you did your best to help her. Be glad she was the one who ended it so you didn't have to!

I know. I suspect as she's been getting progressively crazier, that I needed to tread very lightly to avoid a big drama. I know I was wronged in that I was not treated how a friend should be treated, but with the amount of crazy going on I think it is important to just know I did the right thing.
 

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bliss_cathy|1389251250|3589382 said:
diamondseeker2006|1389248111|3589369 said:
You can rest in knowing that you did your best to help her. Be glad she was the one who ended it so you didn't have to!

I know. I suspect as she's been getting progressively crazier, that I needed to tread very lightly to avoid a big drama. I know I was wronged in that I was not treated how a friend should be treated, but with the amount of crazy going on I think it is important to just know I did the right thing.

You are good person and you tried really hard to help her. I think you can rest assured knowing you did your best and tried to help. But some people no matter how much you try, its never enough. She sounds like she has some mental health issues and at this point I'm glad to hear that you are moving on from her.

I did not see anyone address this, but from what you described I was questioning if she was really hurt? Or milking the accident to try to get something from it. If that's the case, I would have RUN away a long time ago. I have no patience for scammers. I was in a really nasty accident last year with my son in my car. Other drivers fault and in fact he lost his license over it. His car was totaled. I was and still am really shaken up when I think about it. I could have easily claimed I was hurt or my child was hurt but I can't imagine doing that because we were not. I was just so thankful that my son and I walked away OK and that the police officer on the scene and insurance clearly saw who was at fault and I got full reimbursement for my car.
 

bliss_cathy

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VRBeauty|1389250779|3589377 said:
She's a user... and you let her use you for a long time.

From what you've told us - which is of course a very short story about a long relationship - you've allowed yourself to be in a very one-sided relationship for a rather long time. It might be worth your while to give some thought to why you allowed yourself to remain in this relationship for so long.

And I thought she was my friend :-o

No, in all seriousness, she was never a close friend, as I said in my OP. I never actually trusted her that much. I probably would see her about 2-3 times a year if that? I could afford to be generous with my time when she rang for her various needs as I have flexible work hours and don't have a 9-5 job in an office, so I had no reason to say, nope I'm not going to help you out. I very rarely contacted her myself unless I was maybe very bored and would just send a quick text to say Hi.

I wouldn't have actually noticed she defriended me but she also left a group conversation I has set up years ago with a number of friends so it got pushed to the top of my email list therefore getting my attention.
 

bliss_cathy

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asscherisme|1389252547|3589387 said:
bliss_cathy|1389251250|3589382 said:
diamondseeker2006|1389248111|3589369 said:
You can rest in knowing that you did your best to help her. Be glad she was the one who ended it so you didn't have to!

I know. I suspect as she's been getting progressively crazier, that I needed to tread very lightly to avoid a big drama. I know I was wronged in that I was not treated how a friend should be treated, but with the amount of crazy going on I think it is important to just know I did the right thing.

You are good person and you tried really hard to help her. I think you can rest assured knowing you did your best and tried to help. But some people no matter how much you try, its never enough. She sounds like she has some mental health issues and at this point I'm glad to hear that you are moving on from her.

I did not see anyone address this, but from what you described I was questioning if she was really hurt? Or milking the accident to try to get something from it. If that's the case, I would have RUN away a long time ago. I have no patience for scammers. I was in a really nasty accident last year with my son in my car. Other drivers fault and in fact he lost his license over it. His car was totaled. I was and still am really shaken up when I think about it. I could have easily claimed I was hurt or my child was hurt but I can't imagine doing that because we were not. I was just so thankful that my son and I walked away OK and that the police officer on the scene and insurance clearly saw who was at fault and I got full reimbursement for my car.

Thank you asherisme. I think you are correct, I do now also believe she has some mental health issues. I'm sorry to hear about your car accident and glad to hear that you and your son were okay. I hear what you are saying about people milking minor things and other people getting through really serious life events and coming out stronger.
 

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diamondseeker2006|1389248111|3589369 said:
You can rest in knowing that you did your best to help her. Be glad she was the one who ended it so you didn't have to!

Amen!
 

JewelFreak

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She's a user & you weren't useful anymore. Narcissistic -- her employers didn't recognize her genius or need; milking a small accident to cheat us taxpayers; using your time, gas, car, and compassion & I'm sure other victims' too. Enraged when it comes to a screeching halt.

Vitriol was to be expected from her. You're a crutch that broke.

Now you know the signs of a user & can avoid the next one:

1. You hear from her only when she needs something. She gives you nothing.
2. She continues on a terrible course despite good advice & assistance (she likes it that way).
3. Everybody who isn't a tool for her use is an obstacle.
4. Bitterness is her response when you stop being a chump.

Realize you did not help her by listening & advising. She thinks you're dumb & she's far smarter and she likes her life as it is. Playing victim has given her a living without work & attention from naive nice people.

Good riddance! If you don't learn a lesson from this, honey, you're in for much shock & disappointment. Give your compassion to people who truly want help but don't demand it.

--- Laurie
 

momhappy

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Unfortunately, you allowed yourself to be her doormat. I can certainly appreciate that you were simply trying to be a kind/caring person, but when someone's life spirals out of control like that, you can choose to sit by and watch (and offer advice) or you can pull the "rip cord" and get out. Had it been me, I would have pulled the rip cord fairly early on by wishing her the best and ending all communication.
I'm sorry that you went through that. It sounds like you were trying to be a decent human being (and you were/are) =) , but some people are a lost cause and you should consider this a lesson in learning friendship boundaries.
 

ame

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She used you and you let her, look at her "passive aggressive" defriending move as the best thing ever. She's not your friend, in fact she never has been. You've just been someone she could use and pass it off as "what a good friend does" but really all it is what a manipulator and user does. Consider yourself free of her crap, and stop giving her the power over you by giving her a moment's thought.
 

House Cat

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It would really be wise to block her on your Facebook and download an app on your phone to block her phone number too. She may have "unfriended" you, but it is up to you to truly take care of yourself in this situation and draw a hard line. This woman is very sick. Most likely she will be back to suck you dry again.
 

SignedMe

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It's easy to see how you'd feel used, but I don't think she thought she was using you. I'm guessing all of her friendships (if she has many/any) operate the same way yours did. For some people that is just the way they know how to be friends. She leans on you heavily for support because her life seems chaotic and she is continually cast in the role of victim. Sooner or later people like you see it what it is and peace out...which is probably why she's often alone and without lasting relationships.

With that said, you told her things she didn't want to hear, but she already knew them, at least on some level. But when you made her face them, you backed her into a corner and she, rather than address your concerns proactively, "broke up" with you. Are you really surprised? It happens all the time, especially in friendships like the one you've described. She craves sympathy, understanding and her version of support (i.e: show up, listen, take care of me, never say a cross word towards/against me)...you could no longer offer those things her, ergo you are not a "true friend."

Now you're free. Congratulations. People like that take up space in our lives with their bullsh*t to no end (like that book "When You Give a Mouse a Cookie" -- no matter how many problems of hers you'd solve, there is another problem just waiting to shake free. But still, I get why you'd be upset...you invested into a friendship and it was all for not. So it's now time to move on. Your friendship wasn't the sort you enjoyed anyway. It only "feels" like a loss.

ETA: She will probably come back around. If you feel like you have unfinished business, then when she does, remind her that your concerns are still your concerns. She'll either shape up or ship right on back out. Or, you can block her from life right now and not look back. Your choice.
 

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For what it's worth, I don't think you're alone in this (neither the staying in a relationship with someone in an unhealthy spiral of negativity, nor in the drama that results if you call them on it) and, I don't think you're to blame.

My parents are like this, and it took me twenty years to put my foot down that they could either complain about things incessantly (just not to me), or they could pursue a solution with my whole-hearted assistance and talk about it as much as they liked. Just, you know, not take up hours each week telling me how awful everything was and how it could never be fixed. Because, damn, that right there is a recipe for some contact depression.

I will warn you, people with this personality-type can be very big with the dramatic , frequently passive-aggressive, gesture meant to provoke the other person into responding. I hope you're well shot of her. But, just in case, be resolute not to let her back in your life out of niceness and obligation, unless you actually find yourself missing her. And if you do? BOUNDARIES.
 

ame

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House Cat|1389278687|3589495 said:
It would really be wise to block her on your Facebook and download an app on your phone to block her phone number too. She may have "unfriended" you, but it is up to you to truly take care of yourself in this situation and draw a hard line. This woman is very sick. Most likely she will be back to suck you dry again.
Agreed. If you have an iPhone, iOS7 allows you to kinda do that, it just sends them to voicemail. If I don't recognize a number, I let it go to voicemail. But I also now have GoogleVoice and I turned on the "call screening" feature, which means people have to announce themselves. If they don't my phone doesn't even ring, I'll see I had a missed call from a number, and that's that.
 

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yennyfire|1389270320|3589434 said:
diamondseeker2006|1389248111|3589369 said:
You can rest in knowing that you did your best to help her. Be glad she was the one who ended it so you didn't have to!

Amen!


This. You are upset, naturally, because you've been taken advantage of. But in the bigger picture from outsiders providing feedback here, you've been given a gift; as her toxicity is no longer your burden.

Take care.

cheers--Sharon
 

momhappy

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I agree with the others in regards to blocking her. The two of you would both be better off if you just ended the relationship in its entirety.
 

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diamondseeker2006|1389248111|3589369 said:
You can rest in knowing that you did your best to help her. Be glad she was the one who ended it so you didn't have to!

I agree! She doesn't sound like a very nice person, and wasn't a good friend to you - I for one would feel very relieved I didn't have to deal with her any more!
 

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VRBeauty|1389250779|3589377 said:
She's a user... and you let her use you for a long time.

From what you've told us - which is of course a very short story about a long relationship - you've allowed yourself to be in a very one-sided relationship for a rather long time. It might be worth your while to give some thought to why you allowed yourself to remain in this relationship for so long.

women are raised to be "nice" and "helpful".
however, we need to learn to set limits and that it is ok to do so.
 

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I have two people like this in my life. One was my best friend. Someone I talked to every week if not more frequently, shared alot of times. She is a good interesting person. But something happened, where she became, bitter. There was one too many times of her always complaining about mutual people me having to sympathize, but then times she would take it out on me. But I always forgave her, that she was depressed, she was in a bad relationship, etc. Finally there was a couple things she did that were not things a friend would do. I finally had to say something to clear the air, and she went ballistic, (calling me psychotic among other things) which was finally made me realize whoah, this is not a healthy relationship. I didn't speak to her for a couple months, and then after that we talked maybe once a month and see each other a mutual friend's gatherings and I also attend if she organizes something as a group. Sometimes I think she realized she made a mistake by sidelong things she had said (that she regrets certain things she has done, etc). But I'm still too gunshy from her past behavior to ever have a super close relationship with her again.

The second person is my sister, and so she will always be in my life but have learned to put limits (like not answer my phone at times!)

I may be a slow learner, but I do learn eventually.
 

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She handed you your sock...Dobie is free! Run before she tries to get it back!
 

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tyty333|1389289187|3589613 said:
She handed you your sock...Dobie is free! Run before she tries to get it back!


LOL! but so true!
 
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