Why can this sapphire be called Padparadscha?
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The sapphire in your picture has too much purple and red, not enough orange and pink. Yes, a padparadscha can only have a combination of orange and pink, in addition to several other conditions. Is the cert in the last picture of another stone? The description clearly states that it is orange + pink and called it a padparadscha. A stone does not have to be from Sri Lanka in order to be considered a padparadscha either.
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I believe the stone is just the one on the cert. These photos were taken by a gem lover who went to a reputable gem vendor from Celyon.
You can see the obvious orange hue in the second pic. So I think in certain strong light, it can appear like the way in the cert pic, which itself looks much vivid and darker than normal pad we believe. It's strange isn't it? What's more , the person who went there said that stones which are lighter than this one,(I think maybe just like what we believe to be a pad) are more common and cheaper. |
,just got the information. Someone is maybe considering buying this stone.|
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Vivid and darker are 2 different things. On my monitor, the stone in the cert is vivid, but the stone in the picture is darker (and purpler and browner). I’d love to own the stone in the cert but not the stone in the pictures. If the person is interested in the stone, he/she will need to view it under various conditions and I would highly recommend bringing it to an appraiser to make sure the stone is indeed the one in the cert.
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I'm concerned that's not the stone in the cert. It's too brown and dark to be padparadscha.
I don't know how old that cert is, or how true to life the photo is on it, but you can't be vivid and be a padparadscha. Padparadscha's are pastel in color, as deemed by a consortium of gemological labs. Your stone looks like a medium dark toned browish red stone. It's not very attractive to me, but I'm giving you my honest opinion. Don't fall for marketing names either, buy what it beautiful, not what is deemed this or that. |
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Well either your photos are terribly off, but I cannot believe that's the same stone on the certificate unless GRS has significantly low standards on what a padparadscha is. Padparadscha is one of the most difficult stones to buy, and I would not buy one without the help of a person that is expert in that material. Honestly, I could buy spinel that is identical to that color for less than $100. I don't know what those roundish inclusions are in the first photo, but those look like spinel inclusions. I also have my doubts it's even corundum. |
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I agree with the highlighted statement. My first impression based on the colour and inclusions was that it was a spinel, not corundum. My concern is also that the stone being sold is not the same stone as the one in the cert. |
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Thank you for all the opinions.
The photo is surely not well-taken,as the people said himself. Anyway, I feel that the stone GRS considerated to be a pad on this cert (no matter matches the real one) is not the ideal color we have in mind. As I see it maybe called a oranigish red sapphire.That''s somewhat out of my expectation. But I guess that an ideal colored pad may just be a lighter colored crystal of that kind. We see that pad has a subtle color,not vivid even in light tones. If its color darkens, it maybe just look like that. So maybe there''s a vague definition between those stones,whether they are pad or not. Is it why GRS named this orangish red stone "pad"? |
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I also like the fantastic color. It seems like a bleeding sunset.I think it''s the deeper-colored version of the lighter sapphires we accept as pads.
Another interesting news I knew from it is that, in Ceylon vendor''s consideration, the deeper colored is the better,and more expensive, because of its rareness. They may hardly know what''s the most commonly accepted color of pad in most of our eyes. 
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The photos may not do justice to it, as they are likely to be taken under fluorescent light,which will make red stone look darker.However, I think even in outside daylight it maynot appear as vivid as the cert pic which looks more like a ruby. Pad is always not vivid enough due to its iron content which makes its color fall torwards yellow end. The deeper colored ,the more obvious compared to pink sapphire I guess.
But, I've really never seen such colored sapphrie before ,no matter pretty or not at all,have you? |
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Henrietta - I''ve seen a lot of sapphires this colour. They normally aren''t certified and you can get them very cheaply on Ebay. Sometimes they are sold as Pads, sometimes pink sapphires, sometimes rubies!!!!
I wouldn''t call this a Pad as I understand the definition and I certainly don''t see an even mix of orange and pink. I see red, purple and brown - even the photo on the certificate looks like it has a spotlight shining on the stone! |
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Here is a pad necklace by Harry Winston. should help a bit with what color you''re looking for in a pad...
http://www.harrywinston.com/Product.aspx?alias=034-necklace-sunset-necklace¤t=colored-stones-necklaces§ion=jewels |
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My other concern is that the stone in the hand is somewhat of an elongated cushion and the stone depicted in the photo on the lab certificate is more of an equilateral cushion. I honestly do not think that's the same stone in the lab report, and I have serious doubts it's corundum, but more like an inexpensive spinel.
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Thank you all for your concern. Although I like the color, I will never buy it because it's far too expensive for me.
Please don't be doubtful whether the stone is the one on the cert.It's truely that one. I haven't seen it with my own eye but a friend has. He went to the reputable vendor sometimes.The source is totally trustful. Here's one of some other high-end gems from the same vendor. I have seen these pics before, but this time,when I saw the pad, I feel somewhat surprised and post the thread. But it's truely the one on cert.
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