diamond sapphire eternity ring

Date: 12/16/2005 1:40:20 PM
Author:bluehue


Hi-
First time posting, so greetings from the Northwest. I am requesting advice on purchasing a diamond sapphire eternity ring. I think that I want a 4mm shared-prong eternity ring in size 7. I have 5k to spend. I like a medium blue sapphire with lots of sparkle.

Who doesn''t!


The darker blue seem to have less sparkle to my untrained eye.

True for everyone, everywhere - the darker the color, the lower the brilliance.



My local jeweler says he can do it in white gold, but I would have to order it from him without seeing the sapphires, ...
My other option would be a ring with a larger center stone.

A shop specializing in sapphires might answer both those questions. Try THIS for starters. On this forum there are the stories of a few fab sapphire rings already - including the coordinates of the sellers for the stones in some cases. You might want to take a look if not done already.

 About the custom sapphire band: I can''t see why you wouldn''t be allowed to take a look at the batch of sapphires before the ring is assembled. Even for custom orders negotiated online the stones could be inspected (larger center stones mostly, but... what''s the difference?).

 I do not know if The Natural Sapphire company does this in particular, but others might.

 Hope the 2c help

Speaking of 5k single sapphires... how bad is this:





 Item ID: B159     
 Weight ( Ct ): 2.65  
 Dimensions(mm): 8.58 X 6.29 X 5.74
 Origin: Ceylon
 Treatments: No Enhancement
 Shape: Oval
 Cut: Mixed, Brilliant Crown
 Color Intensity: Intense
 Clarity: Insignificant Inclusions (VVS2) 
 Total Price: $ 4902.50 


 And darker...



 Item ID: B139 
 Weight ( Ct ): 2.36 
 Color: Blue
 Dimensions(mm): 7.57 X 6.69 X 5.08
 Origin: Ceylon
 Treatments: No Enhancement
 Shape: Cushion
 Cut: Mixed, Brilliant Crown 
 Color Intensity: Vivid
 Clarity: Insignificant Inclusions (VVS2) 
  Total Price: $ 4366.00 


This is no 'bargain basement' shop. Others may have slightly better prices. And the unenhanced status of these stones adds to the cost. They definitely fit the definition of fine sapphire to me. Unless you wanted allot larger. Better may be out there, but just by a puritanical margin - as far as I can tell.

Heated should be about 4 cts before the budget gets strained (for example, this). Fine color would still be a find - as long as there is no more invasive (and objectionable) treatment than heating. I don't know too many shops online with decent photos of sapphire and enough to choose from.

My 2c

i like both colors on my monitor, ana, but i bet you if i saw them ''live'' i''d prefer the sparkle of the first one.....

personally, while i like color, i want it to be ''alive'' not flat.

peace, movie zombie

Date: 12/16/2005 2:58:09 PM
Author: movie zombie

i like both colors on my monitor, ana, but i bet you if i saw them 'live' i'd prefer the sparkle of the first one.....

 I wish I could see them ... Hate these flat screens. Oh well...

 Otherwise, lighter blue seems nicer to me as well. And there were more on the list of the respective shop that would have fit my own taste better - but they are most of the time considered lighter than 'fine'... so, I left that out.


 

 

damned if you do, damned if you don''t!  i hate that trade off between color and a lively stone.  this third one is now tooooo light for my taste....at least on my monitor!  but its better than some i''ve seen!  perhaps its a bit darker in person.....

peace, movie zombie

Date: 12/16/2005 4:00:47 PM
Author: movie zombie

damned if you do, damned if you don''t! i hate that trade off between color and a lively stone.

It is a pretty thin line where this doesn''t have to happen. I don''t want to think about it... There are a couple of emerald cut sapphires like that in that shop. And I might have seen two or three (medium light and very saturated). Sigh,...


this third one is now tooooo light for my taste....at least on my monitor! but its better than some i''ve seen! perhaps its a bit darker in person.

 Yeah, told you...  I would expect this to look a bit grayish unless there is strong light. Few lighter color ones don''t fade like that. Pictures are so frustrating at times

i don''t think it looks as greyish as most aquas....maybe i''ll start looking more at sapphires. 

peace, movie zombie

Thanks for the advice.  Love the top oval stone.  I may be shifting my focus to buying a nice stone instead of an eternity ring.  Seems more bang for my buck.
Martha

Date: 12/16/2005 10:09:40 PM
Author: bluehue

 I may be shifting my focus to buying a nice stone instead of an eternity ring.

 Speaking of which... I didn''t want to give all the credit to unheated sapphires. That treatment may have made tons on unusable stone look OK-ish, but fine color is rare anyway. As long as the ''heat treatment'' is the traditional thing.

There is no way to compare pictures from different sellers, but at least according to the in-store grading these also measure up.

Most of blue sapphire is heated. So is this:

2.8cts, 6/5 vB, $1500



The shop surely prices the untreated status as expected, but unlike the company above mentioned on the thread, lists mostly heated sapphires. There wasn''t any in the size and price range as those above (e.g. 5.5cts / $ 7k   and next 2.2cts / $1.5k).

These stones can be certified upon request, as far as I know.

 The post was meant to make a case for heat treatment, color and cost. 

Thanks for the input.  My jeweler had the sapphires shipped, as suggested.  I loved most of them, so he is finding new ones to replace the rejects.  Great suggestion.  The learning curve on jewelery is steep.   I am excited to see the finished product - a diamond sapphire eternity band with 4 mm stones in a shared prong setting.  Love PS & look forward to learning more about beautiful stones.

Martha

Date: 12/16/2005 2:35:10 PM
Author: valeria101
Speaking of 5k single sapphires... how bad is this:





Item ID: B159
Weight ( Ct ): 2.65
Dimensions(mm): 8.58 X 6.29 X 5.74
Origin: Ceylon
Treatments: No Enhancement
Shape: Oval
Cut: Mixed, Brilliant Crown
Color Intensity: Intense
Clarity: Insignificant Inclusions (VVS2)
Total Price: $ 4902.50


And darker...



Item ID: B139
Weight ( Ct ): 2.36
Color: Blue
Dimensions(mm): 7.57 X 6.69 X 5.08
Origin: Ceylon
Treatments: No Enhancement
Shape: Cushion
Cut: Mixed, Brilliant Crown
Color Intensity: Vivid
Clarity: Insignificant Inclusions (VVS2)
Total Price: $ 4366.00


This is no ''bargain basement'' shop. Others may have slightly better prices. And the unenhanced status of these stones adds to the cost. They definitely fit the definition of fine sapphire to me. Unless you wanted allot larger. Better may be out there, but just by a puritanical margin - as far as I can tell.

Heated should be about 4 cts before the budget gets strained (for example, this). Fine color would still be a find - as long as there is no more invasive (and objectionable) treatment than heating. I don''t know too many shops online with decent photos of sapphire and enough to choose from.

My 2c

May I ask which site this came from? I am looking for a nice royal sapphire like this, thanks!!

Date: 12/27/2005 12:22:10 AM
Author: SanDiegoLady

May I ask which site this came from? I am looking for a nice royal sapphire like this, thanks!!

 Sure that...   Both came from HERE 

Hello Bluehue,

If you are going to wear the ring alot I would go with platinum instead of white gold.  My sister had a similar stone made about 25 years ago and after 10 years of daily wear it started falling apart.  The stones would fall out Etc.  She had it remade in Platinum and it has lasted 15 years with no problems and she wears it everyday, it''s her actual wedding band.  Could you post side by side pictures of the color blue you want and the darker one you don''t like?  Do you mind heated or treated stones?  What are the color and clarity of the diamonds you want to use? Do you want chips or full cut rounds? That will give the jewelers here on line and that you ask a better idea of what you want and the price.